A Win's A Win For A' That


Promising

By Boris Mellor
September 11 2011

With apologies to Robbie Burns A Man's A Man For A' That (No relation to Robbie Savage)If you always play poorly after the International break, if you have had the worst pre – season preparation ever, if you have bought a shed load of players who have hardly met each other. If you still haven’t managed to get the club handbook out (it’s not due for another two weeks), then Swansea at home is the best possible fixture you can hope for.

That’s no disrespect to Swansea, they played very well, but you knew they would never score, they are now the proud owners of a new record of four blanks in a row from the start of season, not that Arsenal didn’t try to help them out, now and then, with some invitations to score.

I suspect that if Arsenal had been away, against a tougher team, we might have had a less satisfactory result, but we didn’t, and we got a win, and a wins a win. It gives the team a breathing space, a chance to get to know each other, to unpack those crates in the hallway, to find the local deli and favourite bistro. To find schools for the kids and all those other mundane things that get in the way of the important issue of playing football.

It gives the squad time to get over the wrangling on Cesc and Nasri, and  the tragic loss of Super Nick.  It will give time for the new players time to learn the Wenger way, and those 16 players who travelled the world, as far as Brazil and Russia to get over jet lag.

The crowd were in a positive mood, in the pre match popularity poll Arteta got the loudest cheers, followed by MeatLocker; Djourou got a few jeers. They should include the manager and coaching staff, it’s only fair they should be accountable as well.

The match had sold out, but there were quite a few empty seats, but these were probably people who only came to see Eboue, so we had to change our song to “You’ve only come to see the Arsenal”.

Arsenal started off with two new signings Arteta and Meatlocker, within minutes the Spaniard split the Swansea defence and put Ramsey on for a goal. Ramsey reminds me of a migrant arriving in the USA who saw a $20 gold coin on the pavement, picked it up and then threw it back, as he had heard the streets of America were paved with gold. Likewise Ramsey threw his chance away, likewise he didn’t get another one as good.

Arsenals Mikel Arteta in action

Nonetheless, it shows that Arteta can become a good provider of goals, but the problem Arsenal had was there were no strikers, well not strikers that can score that is. Walcott came closest to scoring, but RvP was just infuriating, Swansea are tougher than San Marino to score against.

This powder puff strike force began to encourage Swansea’s confidence to rise, and they began to put Arsenal under the cosh. It was against the run of play that a breakaway led to the strangest of goals. An error by the Swansea keeper gave Arshavin an empty net to aim at. It was a tight angle, and there was a lot left to do, but Arshavin cheekily passed the ball in. Thank goodness it was Arshavin who was there, the sight of RvP or Theo kicking it in to row z would have finished off my day.

So on 40 minutes the game was over, Arsenal never looked like scoring again, and Swansea demonstrated why they now hold the new four blanks record.

Reasons to be cheerful

Arsenal kept a clean sheet, something which may not have happened with Squillaci or Djourou playing. On this showing Sir Chesney deserves his player of month award with another fine performance. The club now has more points than red cards, true its only just. Arteta, Benayoun and Meatlocker all appear to have promising futures with the club, and there are still more to come.

This was the start of the season for Wenger, he had found the pre season games of Newcastle, Liverpool and Man U very helpful, it means it is too early to make any grand overarching pronouncements. With the pre season preparations lagging behind the rest of the league we will have to be patient to allow the changes to become effective.

Clearly the crowd welcomed the inclusion of experience yesterday and are relieved that the obsession with youth is over. They got behind the team and were encouraging to the end. Wenger and his squad have obtained a breathing space, it is to be hoped they make the best of it. It also has to be hoped that the experience proves to be quality.

Stats

Arsenal had 4 shots on target to Swansea’s 2, and 8 off target to 5 respectively

 

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011:09:14:20:57:27 by Padre Pio.

AJ The Gunner
11/09/2011 12:56
i always looks the hunmour sprinkled all over your articlesthumbs down

i don't know about swansea never looking like they will score, we should be grateful that Graham missed from 6 yards during extra time or this game would have been a draw..

the tragic loss of Super Nik(Sm22)

I think off everyone i enjoying watching Arteta though i signed off the match when the boredom threatened to dry me crazy..

Can We Now Trust The Process ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ or Should We Still Remain Cautious ๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

Padre Pio
11/09/2011 13:41
Well Graham missing that sitter shows why they have the record 4 games no goals.

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

AJ The Gunner
11/09/2011 13:49
Quote:
Padre Pio
Well Graham missing that sitter shows why they have the record 4 games no goals.

I hear you smoking smiley

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Rockstaar
11/09/2011 14:20
A win is a win...but we threw away quite a few chances ourselves...but as usual everyone only looks at the oppositions chances

this match should ave been put to bed very early if someone had on their scoring boots

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Padre Pio
11/09/2011 15:05
Well I put stats there they show we had the most chances, but we have powdr puff strikers

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

Merlion96
11/09/2011 15:08
The start of that "100-day honeymoon" for the 4th team.
18-Dec-2011 will be interesting.
"Wenger Raus!" or gloating from Arsenal fans?

celine dion
11/09/2011 17:10
we made very few chances really. About 5. decent ones. And our winning goal was handed to us on a plate. I venture to suggest that we would not have scored otherwise.

RVP looks out of sorts. I think theres something going on there.

Frimpong, despite having been hailed by many as the new Claud Makalele, showed a careless touch.

I didnt think much to Arteta, bog standard premier league midfielder. OK I wasnt expecting the second Fabregas but there are other players we should have bought in.

Benayoun looked decent and Arshavint had a good game. But thats a pretty poor Arsenal side, and most of the people I spoke to agreed with me.

OK Wilshere and Gervinho will perk it up a bit, but we are certainly on a downward slope. The loss of Fabregas and Nasri in the same time period has absolutely F*cked us, in my view.

Padre Pio
11/09/2011 18:02
A friend wrote me "we may well have gone from a top 4 team, to a top third team".

However I dont entirely agree on Arteta, if Ramsey had taken his assist we might be raving about him. He threads a good pass. We didnt have any strikers to take advantage

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

Merlion96
12/09/2011 00:29
The danger is that we are basing the overall performance of the team by "first impression".
If we survived by October 31, 2011 and not more than 3 points from Top-4, then I will deem this team is progressing and with a decent shout for a Top-4 finish by May 2012.

And by Feb 2012, we are in Top-4 status, then we have a TEAM.

Bergmars
12/09/2011 17:24
We are in the second tier of the EPL now,its been a gradual slide which some have seen coming,others have closed their eyse and pretended its not happened.
How many of our players would get in Manure or Citys teams,RVP maybe and possibly TV5 and Jack.The rest are average or not yet ready.

Padre Pio
12/09/2011 23:09
Unfortunately RvP will go next year

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

eduardo
12/09/2011 23:12
the problem could be that all of RVP, TV5, Theo and AA go next summer

*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

Padre Pio
12/09/2011 23:15
it was claimed that Arsenal turned down a bid for Theo from Chavs in the summer, that also came from top table

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

eduardo
12/09/2011 23:19
well if he don't sign a new contract soon, he will be gone next summer if same bid comes in

*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

Merlion96
13/09/2011 00:50
You can see Theo is as good as gone by next summer.
His body language is terrible, sullen, argumentative, ill-disciplined which indicated one helluva frustrated player still gettign to grip with teh role expected of him in Wenger's team.

Expect a weak-kneed and deluded Arsene Wenger trying to placate and persuade Theo to sign that contract extension by playing him as a central striker; after he refused to sign a contract extension in January 2012.

And why hasn't Gazidis started to initiate negotiation for a new contract extension with RvP, TV5, Song, Theo and Arshavin now?

Or are we seeign a re-run of Flamini Saga and Nasri Saga where players indicated they are "happy to stay and to sign a new contract extension, 90% sure only a few niggly details to agree on"....

..and then for them to annoucne in January 2012 they will KIV all negotiations to see whether "Arsenal's ambitions match their ambitions" durign January transfer Window, as well as to see whether they will all be playing CL Cup FOotball next season.

Then Gazidis better start playing "hardball" with any contract rebel and said they all can leave in January 2012 and June 2012 if the contract negotiaitons are at an impasse by December 31, 2011.

Rebuilding the 4th Team continues in Janaury 2012 Transfer Window with players that are committed to play for Arsenal FC and not assholes mouthing off "..we will wait to see if Arsenal's ambiiton matches ours"...

And oh yeah, Gazidis better start looking for a successor to Wenger in June 2012 as I am retty sure Arsene Wengegr will be a most hatred figure like Terry Neill by May 2012 if what pundits are correct that Arsenal FC will sink without trace into mid-table mediocrity or hovering above relegation zone simply that players stopped playing for Arsene Wenger by December 2011 with disillusions set in and everybody will to jump off a sinking ship.

eduardo
13/09/2011 00:55
Merl Gazidis has opened talks with reps of RVP, Theo and TV5, I don't know about the others, but none are in a hurry to do deals, TV5 is said to be the keenest to do a deal.

*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

Merlion96
13/09/2011 01:11
Ed, that is what I am afraid of.

Another long-drawn out Nasri Affair with last-minute "panic" buy and "panic "sales" on August 31, 2012.

We need RvP to commit by Decmeber 31, 2011 or else sell him during January 2012 if CITEH or Chelski or Real is daft enough to bid 25-mil for him.

Theo?
If Liverpool or Chelski or CITEH bids 20-mil to 25-mil, then sell him during January 2011 if he refuses to sign.
The key point is whether a frustrated Theo will be happy to stay at Emirates?

Keepign TV5 is first priority, with Song and Arshavin next.

Arshavin?
if his family settled well in England (to learn English remember?) I do hope Wenger wil break another taboo and offer him a 2-year or 3-year contract extension as he wanted.

Song?
I wonder how many teams will bid for his service?
Will he follow the African Clique to CITEH?

eduardo
13/09/2011 01:15
can't agree with you that AA is more of a priority than RVP or Theo

plus merl why sell any in jan when they still will have a year left next summer, and with euros on, good show at them and price goes up, or even sell them before they start, no need to sell in jan

*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

Merlion96
13/09/2011 01:29
Ed, even with a good Euro2012, with one year left, plus able to negotiate with any team in January 2013 to sign a pre-contract, I doubt whether we can get 25-mil for RvP or 25-mil for Theo in summer 2012.

The key is that I believed all those senior players are disenchanted and waiting for what is going to happen by December 2012 before they commit to Arsenal FC.

If we are Top-4 and fighting for the title, qualified for CL Cup Group stage, and Arsene Wenger kept his promise in Janaury by buying one or two marquee players to replace Cesc and Nasri - say Thiago, Hazard, M'vila, Gotze, Gary Cahill, et al - then I am sure RvP will commit hsi future to Arsenal and sign on.

Theo?
It is best to let an unhappy player elaves in January ratehr than be a bench-warmer with AOC, Gervinho, Park CY and even Chamakh ahead of him in the pecking order.
Can you see Wenger rotating him as a central striker this season in 4-4-2? I can't.

eduardo
13/09/2011 01:36
from what I've seen so far the role set out for Theo is to be very interchangable with Gervinho, both swapping wings, popping up in central striking position, a very fluid mobile front 3, and with AA squeezed out to the bench and sold next year

*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

De Times
13/09/2011 10:58
Quote:
Bergmars
We are in the second tier of the EPL now,its been a gradual slide which some have seen coming,others have closed their eyse and pretended its not happened.
How many of our players would get in Manure or Citys teams,RVP maybe and possibly TV5 and Jack.The rest are average or not yet ready.
Rvp, Sagna, Szczesny, Wilshere, Song, Vermaelen, Gervinho, and Walcott plays ahead of Young for England so thats 8 players who can walk into Manure's team, and i don't want to add others such as Arteta, koscielny, santos.

celine dion
13/09/2011 11:01
[quote De Times][quote Bergmars]We are in the second tier of the EPL now,its been a gradual slide which some have seen coming,others have closed their eyse and pretended its not happened.
How many of our players would get in Manure or Citys teams,RVP maybe and possibly TV5 and Jack.The rest are average or not yet ready.[/quote]
Rvp, Sagna, Szczesny, Wilshere, Song, Vermaelen, Gervinho, and Walcott plays ahead of Young for England so thats 8 players who can walk into Manure's team, and i don't want to add others such as Arteta, koscielny, santos.[/quote]

Indeed, because that would make you look more silly than you do already.



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seanski
13/09/2011 13:16
wow, this thread certainly nose dived ending with CD about to open the wrists. WE wil see, don't base everything on what's happened up to now. The players brought in have given the team a solidity which we didn't have. That's'what most of you were baying for. I think gervinya and park are going to hum and have an electrifying effect on RVP.

Padre Pio
13/09/2011 15:55
We have to give it time, we have no choice so patience is required.
But apart from Szczeney and Sagna I dont see why Man U would want any of our players

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

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