Blip or shape of things to come? Can’t win without Cesc?
Freak Goal
By Boris Mellor
September 19 2010
Apart from Almunia, Sagna, Squillaci and Koscielny this was a poor performance by Arsenal that should have ended in a win. Forget all the deserve nonsense, deserve has nothing to do with it. You have a penalty you score, its 2-0 and late goal doesn’t matter. I knew in advance that Rosicky would miss the penalty.
Players who can’t score in open play don’t have the confidence to score penalties, why wasn’t it given to Chamakh?
The match itself is easy to sum up, Sunderland dominated the first half and Arsenal went ahead with a freak goal. Ten men Arsenal dominated most of the second half, and Sunderland scored after Clichy panicked and failed to clear the ball properly. End of story.
Shape of things to come?
The big question people want an answer to is “is this a blip, or the shape things to come?”. Last year Arsenal lost this fixture, went to Chelsea and lost 3-0. The next fixture is West Brom at home, but its Chelsea is away after that; and here lies the rub, the Chelsea game comes after FK Partizan away. This was not a good performance Arsenal, and Man U and Chelsea come to that, are often poor away after a CL fixture.
Arsenal were hung over after beating Braga, it seemed that they were finding reality hard to adjust to. It will be even harder to adjust to after a hard match, and return flight, in the Balkans. On October 19th Arsenal play Shaktar at home and on the following Sunday Man City away. On 23 November it’s Braga away, followed by Villa away on the Sunday. On December 8th Partizan at home, followed by .... wait for it ...... Manchester United away. Call me a pessimist but all those matches are hard enough without playing a CL fixture beforehand.
Winning without Cesc?
If Cesc hadn’t scored his freak goal yesterday no one else would have scored for Arsenal. Arshavin, Wilshere, Rosicky and Chamakh could not settle themselves for a final shot that counted. Arsenal had more shots on target than Sunderland but failed to score. I saw one blog claiming that Arsenal had created nothing; maybe it makes them feel better to exaggerate the situation. However the truth is somewhat different, Arsenal had 7 shots on target and a missed penalty, there were also 9 shots off target. This reminds me of being one nil up at Burnley and drawing one-one, Cesc had gone off with a hamstring injury before half time. Déjà blooming vu.
Not worst of results
Before anyone slits their wrists in despair Sunderland have only lost 3 games at home in 26 games. It could be argued that this is an improvement on last year. Also without Vermaelen the defence did very well. Squillaci and Koscielny were very composed under a lot of pressure (Sunderland had 11 corners), and that must augur well for the future.
Wenger shot in the foot?
Did Wenger shoot himself in the foot with his call for protection from referees? Song got sent off for not very much, a tackle where he got the ball, and an obstruction. As far as I could see very nasty tackles on Sagna and Wilshere went unpunished. However, Song needs to improve his act, he is playing further up field but lacks pace. So if his man is going past him he has started to use professional obstruction, not worth a red, but often a yellow. He will need to find a new solution.
Bad day at office
It was certainly a bad day at the office for Arsene, He lost his captain to a hamstring injury, Song is sent off, both his nominated penalty takers were off the field, Nasri declined and Rosicky missed. Then a goal is conceded in the 5th minute of four minutes injury time. I bet the referee was laughing all the way home.
So good you said it twice.Not great but should have won 2-1,some good performances,maybe wrong selection by our manager(dare I say that).
Would have had Song and Denilson in maybe even Eboue to start then bring on the match winners when the wearsiders had blown up.
Song needs to be told,if as seems clear he cannot think for himself,when under the cosh sit in front of the back four,stop blocking people off and giving away niggly free kick.
If your gonna get sent off make it worthwile,take an oponnent with you.
it seems without Cesc and RVP our penalties are a risk aswell.
Thats strange, I never entered it twice, checked admin and it was only once there. Came back and it seems to have reset itself back to once
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
it was a very annoying match...if the penalty wasn't missed, we wouldn't be discussing the dropped points???? never let a man who has been battling for 2 years with injuries and is light years away from his form to take a penalty... but where did the 5 mins come from??? maybe their was a miscommunication...ha!!ha!!! very funny... all those away games after CL games don't inspire confidence...wonder what the want away captain makes of all theses suppose over dependence on him...bet he wants to run away now to barca..for me nothing has improved from last year cos i look at score lines which is what makes the difference at the end of the day...lets look at it this way...utd has a back line that leaks goals so we stand a better chance against them as for chelski;yet to see a chink in their amour
Can We Now Trust The Process 🤔🤷🏿♀️ or Should We Still Remain Cautious 🙇🏿♀️
the bloke hasnt scored in ages, you dont need to be Mystic meg to know that a shot shy player wont score a pen. Did you look at his face and run up?
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
with arshavin diaby fit rosicky playing well and theo doing what he has when he comes back and jack playing how he has we can deffo win without fabs but maybe a game with him in starting and coming off injured can be tricky at home youd be ok but away is always gonna be tricky when its such an important player when you know hes out players can train and be drilled and you can prepare much better for the loss of such a player
Can we win games that really count without him? last season when he was injured we ahd a preety barren run punctuated by dire defeats. When this team can win important matches, like sunderland away or Chelsea away that will be proof we have mature squad.
A reserve game at Spurs doesnt convince me yet, i want to be convinced - so come on lads do it at the chavs without fab
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
If we are talking about winning some matches without Fabregas..well definitely possible, you don't expect to loss/draw every match when Fabregas isn't playing. But take it or leave it(didn't see last night match but that doesn't change the opinion a bit) if we are talking about winning league or FA cup or CL well with Fabregas it will one of the toughest mission and without him it's mission impossible..that's my opinion though..
Today's match and your comments sandy sums it up.
After all i did put a question mark. We lack guile without him
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
We record all IP addresses on the Sportnetwork message boards which may be required by the authorities in case of defamatory or abusive comment.
We seek to monitor the Message Boards at regular intervals.
We do not associate Sportnetwork with any of the comments and do not take responsibility for any statements or opinions expressed on the Message Boards.
If you have any cause for concern over any material posted here please let us know as soon as possible by e-mailing
abuse@sportnetwork.net