Before the howls of outrage I must make it clear I am referring only to home form. Ah but Liverpool beat Man U you might say, and I reply so did Burnley, so no difference there. However Liverpool have only won four at home compared to Burnley's five, and have lost two to Burnley's one. Burnley's home record is as good as Arsenal's.
Burnley's
problem is not home form; it's away from home that their problems start with no
wins at all and seven defeats. In fact they have only won one point away, thus
any defeat at home is a matter of life and death for them. They know that if
they start losing at home they are finished. They even held Villa to a draw; it
took a North West team, Wigan, to beat them.
True Burnley
have not won for the last six matches, but we all know how Arsenal love to
be bountiful with teams like that, bearing gifts and restoring their confidence. Just ask West Ham, or Stoke last year.
Wednesday's
match will be a big test, a small ground, with a fervent crowd, and the
temperature just hovering above freezing; it will be a true test of Arsenal's
consistency. The press bang on about the big four mini table and matches being
tests, well Man U failed the test against most big four clubs last season. They
did not beat Arsenal in the league, but little good did that do the Gunners.
I have said
it again and again, beat the teams below you and you will win the league, that's
what United have done on more than one occasion.
Any
complacency, or timidity tomorrow, and Arsenal will kiss three points good bye.
Team news
Denilson
(recurring back trouble) and Traore (hamstring) suffered injuries at Liverpool.
According to Wenger the rest of the squad returned unscathed. That means we
have Rambo, Eduardo and Vela available. It would be nice to see Rambo start. Eboue also returns to the squad.
That's now
three left backs we have lost, what a disgrace why doesn't Arsene have a
fourth? Oh I forgot he does - it must be that Silvestre's time has come at
last.
I would
also like to see the Arshavin/Walcott double act reprised. Strikers hunt in
packs, one up front only works with very special players. Even Arshavin didn't
make an impact against Liverpool until Walcott moved into the centre, and then mayhem ensued.
Burnley are
a tough opposition that plays football, but if the diddy men swarm around
Arshavin from the start it will be more than Burnley can handle.
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
What was my Chelsea prediction? I expected us to lose that game, maybe draw. But what I did say was correct. Vermaelen and Gallas had Drogba in their pockets.
Burnley will be one of our easiest games of the season.
Official 1000th poster in the classic transfer rumors thread of 2014.
People love to say things like this just in case they are wrong. Its much more fulfilling to be correct about something which seems to be stupid, and much easier to take when you are 'wrong' about an issue if Arsenal win.
Official 1000th poster in the classic transfer rumors thread of 2014.
"It should be one of the easiest games of the season. 3 or 4 - 0.
How can any game against a poor team be harder than the Liverpool one?" Tom14
You obviously havent read the preview, or if you did you didnt understand it.
Of course the score could be 4-0 to the Arsenal, but it wont be if they went out there with your attitude.
Villa are an on form team they drew there, Man U lost there, thats why they are not a poor team at home.
The results dont lie they have as good a record as most top four teams at home.
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
I don't expect them to go out there with my attitude. I expect them to go out and treat Burnley with respect and bash them off the park three' and four's.
Official 1000th poster in the classic transfer rumors thread of 2014.
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
I bet Wenger will say go out and diss them, respect
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
That ise xactly what I am afriad of:
"Bringing Emirates' Gift tot he likes of Stoke City and West Ham...and CITEH and Blackburn then"... when they were on a dismal run of without a win or without a point and then ran into "Santa Claus" Arsenal.
Thsi TEAM is inconsistent, turned up in big matches, win them, and the very next game, flopped against a Bottom-12, either 0-0 or 0-1 loss.
And I said tonight, the verdict will be rendered as to whetehr Wenger and Fabregas are correct to say "they don't need big man to win".
BUrnley has mor eicnentive to play fiercely throughout 95-minutes without a drop in tempo.
Their survival is at stake.
In contrast, Liverpool's collective heads dropped immediately after Johnon scored and the stuffings were knocked out of 'em.
Burnley players are different and their collective team spirit is way way better than Liverpool.
Liek that team-spirit and UNIT that drove Greece to win the Euro Nation Cup.
We are not talking about brilliant individual Burnley players.
we are talking about how the heck will Arsenal grinds out a result and break up Burnley collective team plays.
I will love to see that "Swarming" tactic we employed against Stoke City.
Taht is, we attack with 5 players and defence with 11 players, with either Arshavin ro Theo leading the counter-attacks the instant we win back the ball in our box.
Swift passing, quick release and "wall passes" to bypass Burnley palyers intentign to foul Arsenal to break-up attacking plays.
get the tactic right and we can grind out a 1-0, 2-1 or 2-0 win.
get it wrong and paly our usual nervous style of palying 20+ sideway and abckward passes without penetration, it will be 0-0 or 0-1 to Burnley.
Merlion at what point when looking at the fixtures did ANY team in the EPL start thinking that they would rather play Liverpool at Anfield than Burnley at Turf Moor!
Just because we won the pool game..sh.it has changed
Would yu be bangin on about burnley being the harder game if we had to face them first before pool..doubt it very much
We won at Bernabeu on 21-Feb-2006.
What happened next?
We won at Villareal, what happened next?
We beat ManLeeds 1-0 and Chelski 1-0 at Emirates?
What happened at the very next game against Bottom-12 team?
We are very inconsistent and if consistency is shown for Decemebr/Janaury/Feb with a run of 6 successive wins, then I will ahve no doubt that by end-Feb, we will be in full flow, slaughtering Bottom-12 team and scoring goals for fun.
At this moment, considered Lady Luck was plugging for Arsenal and took pity on puppies and our youngsters:
- we got a lucky own-goal,
- luckily Liverpool deflated so rapidly, after than goal,
- Torres, Gerrard and Aqualiani lack match sharpness,
- Thanks to our Destroyer, their "Enforcer" was kicked out of the game.
- And it took an individual piece of brilliancy to win the match.
When I think of Turf Moor, I had a Roker park recurring nightmare.
Well we will certainly play to the whistle, players heads wont drop and they certainly wont be dropping down like a bunch of pansies, and then lets not forget most of our players wont be wearing gloves or tights.
Heres to a good game, but this is down for a Burnley win.
No three points are assured in the EPL,if we play with the right attitude and commitment we will win,anything less,ie one of our where are we what we doing here starts,could be bad.
Tom's right about gloves. It's good for the circulation, so should enhance performance. All that stuff about 'only pansies wear gloves to play football' is so old school it's not true. Only in this country are we still stupid enough to believe not wearing gloves when it's freezing shows how tough you are. One thing that will be tough, initially at least, is the game. I'll settle for any kind of scrappy win there, to be honest.
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Brilliant comment Tom, you need to get out more, take a bus or something if you're coming on here to try and shut down suggestions.
Theodore roosevelt - In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Tell me what exactly is 'correct' about Burnley being harder to beat than Liverpool, because as far as im concerned, Liverpool was one of, if not the hardest game of the season.
Official 1000th poster in the classic transfer rumors thread of 2014.
Does it really matter, are we a bunch of fact finders or journalists,
might be a tough match due to the weather, pitch etc, might not,
Theodore roosevelt - In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
It will help you to read the article, then comment about it.
Don't read the article then read someone's comment then answer the article through someone else' comment, it becomes personal.
Theodore roosevelt - In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Tom14 Tell me what exactly is 'correct' about Burnley being harder to beat than Liverpool, because as far as im concerned, Liverpool was one of, if not the hardest game of the season.
Burnley away is tough alright, but I agree, not as tough as a trip to Anfield!
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merlion At this moment, considered Lady Luck was plugging for Arsenal and took pity on puppies and our youngsters:
- we got a lucky own-goal,
- luckily Liverpool deflated so rapidly, after than goal,
- Torres, Gerrard and Aqualiani lack match sharpness,
- Thanks to our Destroyer, their "Enforcer" was kicked out of the game.
- And it took an individual piece of brilliancy to win the match.
1. WE got a lucky goal..but almunia slapping the ball to kuyt wasnt..otay
2. LUCKILY Liverpool deflated after the goal..WHY..they were at home and the game was tied with a full half to go...deflated my a.ss
3. What about the fact that they had their FULL team available..nothing eh
4. Are you mad? at what point in the game did that goal come..the complete game we played AFTER the goal is what won the game
5. Lastly, no human being alive would want their team to play Liverpool over Burnley..silly silly point
If you want to say it wont be an easy game..then that I agree with..but I would ALWAYS (even if we lose today) expect Arsenal to pis.s all over Burnley
oh yeah, 2-0 Arsenal, can't see anything else, Burnley could be harder to break down than liverpool but i can't see them nicking a goal.
Theodore roosevelt - In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Almunia's not exactly the king of clean sheets this season, so I think any Premier League team could score against us. Especially when we're away from home.
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merlion At this moment, considered Lady Luck was plugging for Arsenal and took pity on puppies and our youngsters:
- we got a lucky own-goal,
- luckily Liverpool deflated so rapidly, after than goal,
- Torres, Gerrard and Aqualiani lack match sharpness,
- Thanks to our Destroyer, their "Enforcer" was kicked out of the game.
- And it took an individual piece of brilliancy to win the match.
1. WE got a lucky goal..but almunia slapping the ball to kuyt wasnt..otay
2. LUCKILY Liverpool deflated after the goal..WHY..they were at home and the game was tied with a full half to go...deflated my a.ss
3. What about the fact that they had their FULL team available..nothing eh
4. Are you mad? at what point in the game did that goal come..the complete game we played AFTER the goal is what won the game
5. Lastly, no human being alive would want their team to play Liverpool over Burnley..silly silly point
If you want to say it wont be an easy game..then that I agree with..but I would ALWAYS (even if we lose today) expect Arsenal to pis.s all over Burnley
Of course, Burnley is tougher as their strength is their collective play and they don't "died' like Liverpool did during 2nd half.
2nd half?
Did Reina had to make any save from our "strikes" at goal?
Did any of our players penetrated Liverpool Defence?
Read my post again:
"Turf Moor is tougher than Anfield"
And if we don't have the luck we have at Anfield, there is a high chance that it wil be 0-0 or 1-0 to Burnley.
My prediciton:
As usual, we will start slow with Burnley at full cry, charging at our box with hoof ball to unsettle our defence.
A few hard-tackle and bodycheck to intimidate our midfield.
We try to string togetehr 2 or 3 passes but Burnley si quicker and more physiclaly and go in full-blooded challenge for any 50:50 balls.
ALmunia flapping at balls:
As usual, Burnley wil limit us to 1 or 2 shots at goal in 1st half.
Mate - have you actually seen any of our games this season?
Hoof Ball?? I think you are thinking about B.astard Rovers further down the M65 - we try and play to feet.
Also, we are near the top of the Fair play league (Europa League here we come!!), so to suggest that we will try and kick you is well wide of the mark.
Tom says that claims in the article are rediculous but nothing in it as rediculous as this quote:
"I don't expect them to go out there with my attitude. I expect them to go out and treat Burnley with respect and bash them off the park three' and four's."
Tom14
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
Tom forgot that it is our perennial Nvoemebr Blip and thsi season, it looks more and more like a re-run of 2005/06, as well as 2008/09 season.
let's hope we have the consolation of playing at Bernabeau, win the CL Cup and replaced S*CUMS who are 4th...
If the results read like:
19-Dec - Arsenal 0 Hull City 0
27-Dec - Villa 2 Arsenal 0
Then, the League Table may very well be:
1 - Chelski
2 - ManLeeds
3 - Aston Villa
4 - S*CUMS
5 - Abu Dhabi City
6 - Arsenal
7 - Liverpool
Adn Arsenal [again] playing catch-up to retain Top-4 status.
Like Liverpool, Burnley match confirmed that Arsenal does not have the quality of ManLeeds and Chelski to battle for the title this season as long as the squad is not reinforced in January.
The arrogance of some supporters is unbelievable.
They seem to forget this is the worst team we've had
under Wenger so why they think we're going to decimate
a team with good home form is bewildering.
As usual one good result is marred by an average one
though personally I'm pleased we got a point.
Youve summed it up CG "Arrogance" and what worries me is that some of our rather ordinary players are alos arrogant and talk bull a lot of the time.
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
John Lydon once sang that anger is an energy. Wenger
needs to show some to his players more often.
Arrogance, which some players and some fans seem to
have in an abundance, is the opposite. It is lazy,
self-regarding and stubborn to the point of ineffectiveness.
I would ban the whole lot of em from Interviews until they have won something
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
I always don't bother coming on here when we lose or draw, its pointless.
And this is just a case of you 'just so happening' to be correct. Its not logical, and down right insane, to say Burnley is a harder game than Liverpool and that we will not win.
Being totally negative in the hope that you are correct is more fulfilling than being positive when all you want to do is prove how much you are right for doubting Arsenal.
Official 1000th poster in the classic transfer rumors thread of 2014.
You can wear your rose tinted goggles and be positive about it all but the rest of us will be REALISTIC. KNowing the way Arsenal have [played last 5 years most, if not you, knew we were always going to be given hard work from Burnely and that was right. The club won't go forward by being 'positive', it will by being realist and realzing we need more quality players.
I have learned to perfect the art of ignoring anything with the word 'realistic' in it, so I literally don't know what you said past, well, the ridiculously caps'ed word.
Official 1000th poster in the classic transfer rumors thread of 2014.
I would loved to have been wrong and when we scored early I thought great, we were going to do what better teams couldnt do, wash em away, then I woke up.
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
Tom14 I have learned to perfect the art of ignoring anything with the word 'realistic' in it, so I literally don't know what you said past, well, the ridiculously caps'ed word.
Tom I would respect you more if you just put your hands up on this one and admitted you were way off.
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
I ended up being way off, but my comments were far more fustified than all of the pathetic whimpering about the mighty Burnley.
Its like a crazy fundamentalist Christian being proved correct, even though its entirely without reason to hold those beliefs.
"Burnley are harder to beat than Liverpool"
"There is a God and he will burn you in hell if you don't agree"
Who knows, the latter may also just happen to be correct, but I won't allow myself to believe it, just like you shouldn't expect Arsenal to just about scrape a point at Burnley.
Does it make sense now, and if it doesn't, well, I won't do anything.
Official 1000th poster in the classic transfer rumors thread of 2014.
I thought they'd be equally tough but yes I'd rather
have to go to Turf Moor needing three points than Anfield
but things don't pan out logically in football.
If they did we'd have beaten Swindon in the League
Cup final or not lost to Wrexham in the FA Cup and
so on.
Tom 14 It wasnt based on religion just purely on the form book and the facts. read my report I make the point we did exactly the same against Boro last year in almost the same week. Wengers squad is just too wek thats why it happens.
Burnley have made a fortress out of their home ground its a fact. Also they have a sense of needing it more than Arsenal's pampered players. You see Tom Football is a team game and Team Spirit Burnely have in spades at home.The stakes are high for them, and they had a better keeper.
Now at some stage it will crack and gravity will assert itself, but Arsenal on the road for two games in a row are not the team to crack it.
Why because we have a team that is mentally feeble, @#$%& by Wenger's pampering they think three games in a week is worse than an Earthquake.
Wenger's moaning helps breed their sense of self importance even though they are a bunch of win nothings, no record no nothing. Burnley won the Championship what have they won?
They go 1-0 up they ease back and start swanning about, you didnt read my preview properly, if you did you missed the facts, but you slagged it off.
I had some respect for you Tom as you argue your corner, but you cant admit it when you are wrong. Does that matter, perhaps not, its not a moral issue, but it just shows a mind that doesnt learn or change, and a mind like that is not worth arguing with. You are prepared to call other people but not call yourself to account.
If Wenger doesnt buy in January, or Bendtner come back in form this team will not be winning the league and will scrap for 4th.
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
Theodore roosevelt - In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Not well said. If I has said "Arsenal will beat Burnlet because Burnley are @#$%& and we are superawesome" fair enough, but I merely stated about a hundred times that we should win, and we should be expected to win, because we Arsenal, not Hull.
We didn't win, and I knew full well that Arsenal may not have won, but that does not make me any less wrong for saying we should win a game like that, because we should.
I am right most of the time regarding most issues, but that does not mean I can't be positive about us before a game starts.
Official 1000th poster in the classic transfer rumors thread of 2014.
Sorry error that should have read Championship playoffs. So the answer is tea
"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.
Tom14 Not well said. If I has said "Arsenal will beat Burnlet because Burnley are @#$%& and we are superawesome" fair enough, but I merely stated about a hundred times that we should win, and we should be expected to win, because we Arsenal, not Hull.
We didn't win, and I knew full well that Arsenal may not have won, but that does not make me any less wrong for saying we should win a game like that, because we should.
I am right most of the time regarding most issues, but that does not mean I can't be positive about us before a game starts.
Your quote was "Burnley will be one of our easiest games of the season."
This one just cracked me up though. "Its like a crazy fundamentalist Christian being proved correct, even though its entirely without reason to hold those beliefs.
"Burnley are harder to beat than Liverpool"
"There is a God and he will burn you in hell if you don't agree"
Who knows, the latter may also just happen to be correct, but I won't allow myself to believe it, just like you shouldn't expect Arsenal to just about scrape a point at Burnley."
Tom14 I ended up being way off, but my comments were far more fustified than all of the pathetic whimpering about the mighty Burnley.
Its like a crazy fundamentalist Christian being proved correct, even though its entirely without reason to hold those beliefs.
"Burnley are harder to beat than Liverpool"
"There is a God and he will burn you in hell if you don't agree"
Who knows, the latter may also just happen to be correct, but I won't allow myself to believe it, just like you shouldn't expect Arsenal to just about scrape a point at Burnley.
Does it make sense now, and if it doesn't, well, I won't do anything.
You're talking rubbish on 2 counts. Your uncalled for slur on Christianity is a disgrace.
You're not doing yourself any favours with your attitude you should be grateful you got a point. Last season when we were promoted when we played the clubs that got relegated we didn't beat any of them at their places we didn't beat a single one of them. Games against teams that are lower down the table aren't games you should expect to win. You can't expect to win any game. You have to get the victory on the pitch.
LAWS OUT
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If only the Premier League were as competitive as this.
He is a hermaprodite - an arrogant c*nt and a coc,ky p.rick concurrently.
He believes that "dogging" is a sport where White.Hart.Pricness.6.9. goes down on all fours with her furry butts aiming at him is a "blow-job" perform by him.
You will never convince a flat-liner like him the earth is round. AN exercise in futility like suckling @#$%& of a bull.
BTW, how serious is Burnley in getting WIlshere on loan for the rest of the season?
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