Wenger's team comes up short - Sagna has mare


Own goal

By Boris Mellor
November 30 2009

As I watched the players warming up I was surprised that the Emirates pitch was not being watered, after all it was only a torrential downpour. It was cold and damp and no doubt memories of last season's 4-1 defeat played on a few minds. Would we do better this time round?

 

Fabregas had also given it some thought but he tried to raise spirits in his Captain's notes by writing that although Arsenal had been beaten 4-1 they could have been 3-0 up in the first twenty minutes, "we had so many chances but we didn't take them". He won't have to change his notes that much for next season's fixture, apart from the bit about being 3-0 up.

This time Arsenal managed only 3 chances all game, yes there was lots of pretty football but none of it came to anything. There were too many diddy men watching the ball go over their head. There were no options, low crosses were cut out, and high crosses headed out by tall Chelsea defenders.

Arsenal won possession and the midfield, that's why Wenger could afford to take Song off, he wasn't needed. The Chelsea play came from long balls down the wings. Increasingly Anelka and Cole were cutting in at the byline. Sagna had a mare, he lost Cole for the first goal, and backed off for the second. On both occasions Cole's crosses led to goals. By the end of the first half Arsenal were out of the game, and out of the championship.

It did appear that Arsenal might make a comeback at the beginning of the second half, from where I was sitting Arshavin's goal looked ok. Wenger insisted it should be allowed, but I have watched the replay and Eduardo's boot was above waist height on Cech as he kicked the ball out of his hands; these days no referee would allow such an infringement.

 Unfortunately although a correct decision it probably convinced the Gunners there was nothing they could do. As Arsenal began to stretch themselves to get a goal Chelsea attacked all the more. It finally came from a Drogba free kick as a result of more lousy defending.

It was men against boys, and unfortunately Arsenal without RvP and Bendtner seem even weaker than the team that wore the colours last year. The team is no longer pressing, and too many short men are upsetting the balance of the team. There is no leader of the line, indeed there is no line. For the moment the goals have dried up.

At some stage they will adapt, but it will not be enough against teams as good as Chelsea. Walcott and Vela are not, at the moment, match winners, in footballing terms they are still boys.

Arsene you set the test as being Chelsea, so you can't blame the press, the team sat your test and failed miserably. Would RvP have changed things? Possibly, there would have been more spirit up front, and goals change games. Perhaps Bendtner could have unsettled defenders, either way it demonstrates that the squad lacks depth.

After all it was the failure of Arsenal to score that saw Chelsea's confidence grow as the match progressed. Well we know Arsenal will not win the league, can they stay in the top four? Stoke now will be a big test, I suggest Arsene make sure they prepare well for it as they failed to wing this one.

As they crowd made its way home in the cold and the damp the consensus around me was that nothing had improved since last year.

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Wenger's team comes up short - Sagna has mare
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:12:04:16:39:23 by Padre Pio.

Chapman's Ghost
30/11/2009 08:43
Yes nothing has improved from last year and if
we stick with this youth policy it won't get any
better.

Unless AW wakes up and buys some quality in January,
however hard that maybe, I think he should consider
his position.

Bergmars
30/11/2009 10:54
TBH I cant see where he thinks the squad has improved in the last two years.

Bring back stepanovs!
30/11/2009 11:29
if wenger changes his policy il eat my hat

Julielaverne
30/11/2009 12:29
Time for a new board and a new manager.

Gรถรถfle11
30/11/2009 16:53
Many things have improved from last season.

Retard.

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Chapman's Ghost
30/11/2009 17:14
Stop insulting people and accept that nothing
has improved. It's tough and it's painful but
that's it.

Bergmars
30/11/2009 17:21
I honestly think Im watching a different team to others.

Chapman's Ghost
30/11/2009 17:36
We're a joke. Score as many as you like against lightweights
like Blackburn and Wolves but when it comes to the
real challenges we look clueless.

Will bloody Wenger ever learn?

Padre Pio
30/11/2009 18:07
Nothing has improved Tom, and cut out teh retard stuff.

we have not won any more games than last season, true we have lost 4 as against 5, but we had played one more game.
Last season we were out of it a a few days earlier. We are out of it before the end of November.

I dont care about the top teams CG, beat West ham and Sunderland and we would be 7 points behind with a game in hand. We aint even good enough to beat the bottom teams on a consistent basis.
last year Man U hardly won any top 4 game, but still won the league.

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

ArsenalForever
30/11/2009 20:07
exactly padre...i would not have been too disappointed if we lost to chelsea but beat sunderland last week

AJ The Gunner
01/12/2009 10:06
what can i say except that we have definitely not improved as wenger says and thinks we have.the results and statistics don't tell lies.but then he will say the season is not yet over to finally judge this team.

wenger should just swallow his pride and except that he got it all wrong once again.how on earth did we get to the point were chelski can hammer us 3 without a reply. the fact that we scored one of the goals was embarrassing.what other theories and spins can justify what has been going on for a long time.contracts are improved and re-newed when players are yet to earn it.what more can happen that is unreal; imagine spurs seating above us......

i'm speechless.... we have yet to stop loosing to minnows and we are yet to beat teams that we are supposed to be top teams with.

WHAT WILL IT REALLY TAKE FOR WENGER TO STOP BEING IN AN ADVANCED STATE OF SELF DENIAL!!!!!!!

Can We Now Trust The Process ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ or Should We Still Remain Cautious ๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

fabarsenalfc
01/12/2009 11:14
I can't believe that I seem to be defending Wenger at the moment, given that I'm so critical of our lack of organisation when it comes to defending dead balls (eg. Denilson marking John Terry) and lack of recruitment of established stars (in comparison to other 'title contenders' and also rans).
Anyway, here goes again: I agree with Wenger that we have improved, albeit slightly.
Surely our central defence has improved with the arrival of Thomas Vermaelen. He's forged a good partnership with William Gallas, despite my reservations about the lack of height in that area of the field.
Okay, we still leak goals from free kicks and corners, just as much as last season, but at least Gallas and Vermaelen look a better partnership than Gallas and Kolo Toure. So that's improvement.
Then there's Denilson. He's improved. The same goes for Alex Song.
Bacari Sagna and Manuel Almunia seem to have gone backwards, but in Sagna's case I'm sure it's only temporary.
So all in all, I'd say we have improved, albeit slightly. The only problem is we haven't improved enough!
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:12:01:11:16:58 by fabarsenalfc.

AJ The Gunner
01/12/2009 12:53
Quote:
fabarsenalfc
I can't believe that I seem to be defending Wenger at the moment, given that I'm so critical of our lack of organisation when it comes to defending dead balls (eg. Denilson marking John Terry) and lack of recruitment of established stars (in comparison to other 'title contenders' and also rans).
Anyway, here goes again: I agree with Wenger that we have improved, albeit slightly.
Surely our central defence has improved with the arrival of Thomas Vermaelen. He's forged a good partnership with William Gallas, despite my reservations about the lack of height in that area of the field.
Okay, we still leak goals from free kicks and corners, just as much as last season, but at least Gallas and Vermaelen look a better partnership than Gallas and Kolo Toure. So that's improvement.
Then there's Denilson. He's improved. The same goes for Alex Song.
Bacari Sagna and Manuel Almunia seem to have gone backwards, but in Sagna's case I'm sure it's only temporary.
So all in all, I'd say we have improved, albeit slightly. The only problem is we haven't improved enough!
[www.360football.co.uk]

while i agree that some players have improved and for me it's just Song and the fact that Vermaelen is a better partner for gallas than kolo, collectively as a whole ,results and statistic show no improvement.we can't beat minnows and we are not even beating the big teams either.if we at least beat sunderland and the likes, the gap with chelsea won't be 11 points.

at the end of the day;its the results and stat's plus our position on the table that counts cos thats were one can know the real picture of things.forget the statistics that show us having the greatest ball possession in games cos most times nothing comes out of it.

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Gunners R Us
01/12/2009 16:53
i think the middle 3 and defensive partnership are the only things which have improved

But this is also balanced by CLEAR declines from sagna, clichy, almunia, eduardo and arshavin

whilst those overrated, eg nasri, walctt by us are beginning to get sussed.

Padre Pio
01/12/2009 18:34
Yes Vermaelen is an improvemennt.
Problem is that Sagna and Almunnia have gone backwards.
Actually Sagna was a disgrace on sunday

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

AJ The Gunner
01/12/2009 19:00
Quote:
Padre Pio
Yes Vermaelen is an improvemennt.
Problem is that Sagna and Almunnia have gone backwards.
Actually Sagna was a disgrace on sunday

Got that right.it's amazing how some players seem to be on a free fall decline.i mean clichy has shockers after shockers before he was injured and Almunia...mmm i rest my case. as for sagna; been wondering if he is one season wonder.

but were is the motivation coming from when no one of real quality is pushing for their places in the squad

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eduardo
01/12/2009 22:54
AJ if a the player can not motivate themselves to perform at a high level then there is something clearly wrong in their personality

zombiez
03/12/2009 03:52
Agree that Sagna, Clichy and Almunia wasnt playing their best games this season.

Song, Vermalaen, Denilson, Gallas, Bendtner, RVP has improved.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:12:03:03:53:40 by zombiez.

Padre Pio
03/12/2009 08:18
Nik and RvP have improved but are not available, Eduardo, Vela and Arshavin have gone backwards

"When we had to suffer the team is a lion because they suffer together." 4 July 2020 at Wolverhampton Wanderers
Arteta on his team's first away victory at a club above them in the Premiership since September 2015 at Leicester.

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