News: There’s something in the air – Tigers v Saints Preview


By David Lowrence - "St Marlowe"
October 3 2013

 It’s that time of year again. Wafting down the Welford road from the Northlands into the Shire, drifts the unmistakeable odour of Cockpoo, Bullcrap and Sanctimony.  It must be the first local derby of our year, and there is the added frisson of it being the first meeting since Mr Harltley was dismissed in last year’s final, and the Cock was banished to a cage by the RFU in response to 30,00 irate emails from Northampton complaining that the naughty step was not enough. Wicked Saints

 

 

Aviva Premiership Round 5

Leicester Tigers v Northampton Saints

Saturday 5th October

Welford Road - KO 3:15pm



Reading ChrisC’s excellent preview on the Tiggers’ site, one could be forgiven for thinking that an atmosphere of mutual respect had broken out between the supporters. (two hopes there – Bob and None). A well researched opinion of the strengths and weaknesses, of the two teams. Except.

Except that it has sown the seeds of doubt in the minds of some Stripey supporters up the road. (or are they just mindgames…) Claiming the underdog status so early and with such passion is an old trick, but is it all part of a massive plot, compounded by the Cock’s article in the media, crying out for the game to be decided by the rugby, and not by the naughtiness of Dylan in throwing mud on his whiter than white team, who never transgress? (Pause while the writer changes underpants moistened during laughter, and goes off to buy a round).

On the holy board that is COYS, we now seem to have a number of young pups who have fallen for all this, and are claiming that we will win. Sacrilege!!. WMS wert thou here. A pome or two would have shown these youngsters the error of their ways. These pre match rituals  produce A riddle wrapped up in an enigma and to paraphrase the context in which Churchill wrote that - "I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia the Tigger. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian the Tiggers’ national competitive interest."

Enough of the preambling I hear you cry. On to the match!

On paper (but we will be playing this on grass) the Saints would appear to be in a strong position. For once what we appear to have lost up front (pause to allow all the “pundits” to lecture Jim about the loss of Tiny and the Mooj) has been more than compensated for by having a back row that can deliver, three-quarters that are on fire, and the man that Tigers have a plan to neutralise (oh yeah?) St George. – One of the mistakes Sale made was to concentrate on George to the detriment of their defence against another gem – Jamie Elliot. A young player who, if he can combine his profligacy in try scoring with his Northampton background of Tiger Hunting, could wipe the grins off a number of Crumbie dwellers.

What amuses is that our friends in Leicester are making assumptions about a number of players they have had no opportunity to see play (let alone against their own). Some interesting matchups, and I expect Samu and Courtney to inflict havoc in the Leicester ranks – because they can.

That is not, however to underestimate the grit and grinding power of Leicester. We are the Underdogs – ‘twas ever thus. The bookies have us there, and that is our rightful place. Winning from below is the order of the day, and something which I believe we can do on Saturday. (Can,  not necessarily will)

Having seen some interesting stuff on Monday night, I would like to throw a curved ball to Leicester on Saturday. My team would be:

15 Foden

14 Elliot

13 G Pisi

12 Burrell

11 North

10 Myler

9 L Dickson

 

8 Van Velze

7 Harrison

6 Wood

5 Manoa

4 Lawes

3 Mercey

2 Hartley

1 Corbisiero

 

Replacements:

16 Haywood

17 Waller

18 Denman

19 Dickinson

20 Dowson

21 Fotuali'i

22 Wilson

23 Collins

 

(On the basis Daisy may not play, and that we will play a fluid backline!) But I expect Jim will swap Dowson for Harrison – in spite of his capabilities (shown on Monday)

I shall be watching from my vantage point in the Goldsmiths stand where I find the supporters to be sensible, realistic and welcoming. Looking forward to this one immensely. 

And the result? Saints by a whisker.

 

 

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News: There’s something in the air – Tigers v Saints Preview
Discussion started by ComeOnYouSaints.com , 03/10/2013 12:14
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Broonie
03/10/2013 12:29
err, Dave, Future didn't play against Exeter, Ken Pisi did ?

lost in duston
03/10/2013 13:42
Maybe I'm an old fuddy duddy, but purlease, less of name calling. less of The Cock *ahem*.

Yes, I do find his rantings akin to S. Diamond, but he is passionate about his club.

For the first time in a long time, I actually think we could nick this. Without Croft and Mafi (who have been excellent and the difference in recent seasons), I think we could match and excel at the breakdown.

St Owen
03/10/2013 13:47
Good preview.

We certainly do have "a back row that can deliver". But as yet, in this short season, they haven't actually delivered.

You can't always get what you want, But if you try sometimes well you might find, You get what you need.

Richards/Jagger

SAINT_aitch
03/10/2013 14:08
I like what you've done in the team predictions there David. Bold, justified but bold.
I'll be there and hopeful as ever.
COYS

St Marlowe
03/10/2013 14:12
Whoops should be Sale not Exeter

David L

What if there were no hypothetical questions?

- Live wrong and preposterously

tedge
03/10/2013 14:53
Last season at home Tigers destroyed our pack, which looked somewhat stronger in the front row than it does now. Harrison went off injured on Monday but even if fit I don't think he will be selected. I'd also be surprised to see KP displaced by TC for this fixture.Any prediction of a win should be treated with extreme caution or at least a very large pinch of salt.

St Marlowe
03/10/2013 15:29
Tedge
I appreciate that you may not agree with my thoughts
However:-
I said "can" not will
I also sad that I thought Jim would change my team selection (he has that right you know)

Perhaps you might like to write the next preview - you might actually read it

David L

What if there were no hypothetical questions?

- Live wrong and preposterously



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013:10:03:16:03:28 by St Marlowe.

Rich W
03/10/2013 15:35
Quote:
and the man that Tigers have a plan to neutralise (oh yeah?) St George

We do? Wish someone had told us! But it's all very well knowing what you have to do - doing it is another matter!

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St Marlowe
03/10/2013 15:45
Rich W
"We have watched them play and George North is key for them.

"We know Northampton's threats and we will put a plan together.

paul Burke in the Licefester Mercurial Organ

David L

What if there were no hypothetical questions?

- Live wrong and preposterously

Rich W
03/10/2013 16:10
Well that's not quite the same as saying that they have a plan to neutralise him is it?

Knowing that GN is key to you is hardly earth shattering and doesn't mean that he's your only threat. As far as I can se Burkey is saying that we will put together a plan to deal with all your threats - which include GN.

Though as I say, planning and succeeding - not the same thing...

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St Marlowe
03/10/2013 16:17
Quote:
Rich W
Knowing that GN is key to you

Important - Yes - Key?

David L

What if there were no hypothetical questions?

- Live wrong and preposterously

Rich W
03/10/2013 16:20
Fair distinction.

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Matthew
03/10/2013 22:32
Did they get the right George? I didn't think we'd really integrated George N into the way we play just yet.

alwayshopeful
04/10/2013 09:13
George North is finding his way in both the premiership, and the Saints...his major contributions, so far, have been from the collecting of kicks deep in our own half and returning them half way up the field... this demonstrates his huge potential...

He is not yet fully integrated into our play in the way, for instance, Chris Ashton was in his prime - this will take time but its coming - and then we will really see some fireworks!

Burrell is the stand out player in my mind - certainly in attack. I can see us changing our usual process of playing off 10, to playing off 12 instead - having Luther hit it up and playing Pisi and North off the next phase...this will be new to Saints - but its a-coming...

In the backrow, I could see the return of GJ but suspect Jim will plump for Dickinson again - he is flying at the moment - and with Wood nailed on at 6, the only question is 7... to me this is a straight fight between Clark, Nuttley and Harrison. Putting in Harrison would be a massive call, but not completely "out there" as would the involvement of Nuttley... but given the thoughts of playing off 12 - you need someone to get out to those channels and then be able to protect possession.. so I'd start Clark, and have Harrison on the bench for when Clark is blowing at 50 mins.

I can't wait! Come on you Saints ,,,

Broonie
04/10/2013 16:22
I always worry about language like "neutralise" when applied to people.

somehow makes me think of trips to the Vet...

Matthew
04/10/2013 17:04
Kind of like 'termination' - sounds so much worse than 'just' someone being out of a job.

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