Bedford Blues
Let's Put Things Right
Nils Mordt
By Blues Ed
November 27 2014
Thank goodness we have a B&I Cup opportunity to get things back on track. Doncaster Knights are unbeaten in the competition and will provide stern Friday night opposition ...
That is just what is needed following the nine try embarassment at the Mennaye Field last week against "fellow strugglers" Cornish Pirates.
A decent win could mean we might even qualify for the next round, but a decent performance is vital if we are to restore confidence for the league campaign.
Once again the Sarries tie-up comes into force with Mike Ellery starting on the wing and Nils Mordt at fly half.We also have James Pritchard back from international duty with Canada and Henry Staff is in the centre.
Prop Johnny Harris is on loan from Irish and will be on the bench, while Tom Williams, TJ Harris, Harry Wells and Hayden Thompson-Stringer all start.
Blues: James Pritchard, Pat Tapley, Henry Staff, Viliami Hakalo, Mike Ellery, Nils Mordt, Darryl Veenendaal, Tom Williams, TJ Harris, Camilo Parilli-Ocampo, . Harry Wells, Ben Gulliver, Paul Tupai, Justin Blanchet, Hayden Thompson-Stringer.
Reps: Charlie Clare, Johnny Harris, James Currie, Mike Howard, Josh Buggea, Peter White, Jake Sharp
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Looking forward to tomorrows game. No disrespect but I thought we lost the game up there as opposed to Doncaster winning it.
The usual slow start and big push in the 2nd half but we'd left ourselves to much to do.
I think the boys will front up tomorrow and I'm looking forward to a good win.
The usual slow start and big push in the 2nd half but we'd left ourselves to much to do.
I think the boys will front up tomorrow and I'm looking forward to a good win.
We will win 38 24 good looking team - come on then all you supporters tell me the score
Slightly surprised that Toops was put in front of the camera for the pre-match vid. Should have been the 'Head Coach' IMO, particularly when talking about the Pirates game. Let's hope there is a bit more leadership from the 'Ham Sandwich' brigade tonight. They can't hide anymore and should be measured on results. Enough said.
Good interview IMO, he was very honest didn't duck anything or make excuses. It must have been very for him talking about Sundays game but I thought he handled it well. Fair play to him.
I thought he was uncomfortable with the whole thing, but stuck it out till the end. It's funny how people see things differently. Like I said the 'Ham Sandwich' brigade should be measured on results, they need to put it right tonight. Otherwise it'll be more rubbish to read on here over the weekend and coming week I'm afraid.
Basic skills! How many knock ons? How many line outs lost? Backs scuttling diagonally then passing the ball out out until they ran out of space. Not the way to win the fans back. I am afraid that some of the other local teams, including the younger Blues teams will be getting my custom until things looks up.
[quote Jonathan Wilcox]I thought he was uncomfortable with the whole thing, but stuck it out till the end. It's funny how people see things differently quote]
Yes some people look for the positives and some for the negatives. However it's hard to find any positives from tonights game. Not only are we looking a poor side we've also become boring. So much for the reaction.
Yes some people look for the positives and some for the negatives. However it's hard to find any positives from tonights game. Not only are we looking a poor side we've also become boring. So much for the reaction.
IB - the coaches are a laughing stock, it's time for them to step aside. Plus we need to stop these pre match videos they are laughable.
JW apart from the backs coach they are the same coaches we've had for the last 10 years. They haven't suddenly become bad coaches.
The way I see it, in the last two years we've signed and held onto, very average players.
Most of them just are'nt good enough for this level. Which is why I believe we'll be in league 1 next season.
The way I see it, in the last two years we've signed and held onto, very average players.
Most of them just are'nt good enough for this level. Which is why I believe we'll be in league 1 next season.
Quote:iron blue
JW apart from the backs coach they are the same coaches we've had for the last 10 years. They haven't suddenly become bad coaches.
The way I see it, in the last two years we've signed and held onto, very average players.
Most of them just are'nt good enough for this level. Which is why I believe we'll be in league 1 next season.
IB, does that mean admission prices will drop?
Quote:Well you'd like to think so, maybe they should drop now considering the dross we're being asked to watch. If I hadn't paid out for out for a season ticket I'd don't think I'd bother going.red eagleQuote:iron blue
JW apart from the backs coach they are the same coaches we've had for the last 10 years. They haven't suddenly become bad coaches.
The way I see it, in the last two years we've signed and held onto, very average players.
Most of them just are'nt good enough for this level. Which is why I believe we'll be in league 1 next season.
IB, does that mean admission prices will drop?
I can see the coaching debate going on, but you know what I think. Recruitment has generally been poor coupled with some poor retention and contract termination decisions. All of this is down to the Head Coach. We haven't been able to turn over the promoted Donnie, we lost a pre-season game to to relegated Ealing. The writing is on the wall. A relegation dog fight.
Coming off the back of a 9-try hammering, last night's performance was truly pitiful.
The team look utterly demoralised and leaderless. We have become so two dimensional in attack it's mind-numbingly depressing.
The fact that we got 2000 last night is testament to the strength of rugby in Bedford, but it won't last forever.
The team look utterly demoralised and leaderless. We have become so two dimensional in attack it's mind-numbingly depressing.
The fact that we got 2000 last night is testament to the strength of rugby in Bedford, but it won't last forever.
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Recruitment has generally been poor coupled with some poor retention and contract termination decisions. All of this is down to the Head Coach.
So the "Head Coach" sets the budget now, does he?
Until the man at the top moves on this is a club in limbo. I think we will nick another three or four wins to stay up this season but I'm not at all confident about next.
Sorry, duplicate post that I can't seem to delete.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014:11:29:12:53:22 by eaglefarmer.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014:11:29:12:53:22 by eaglefarmer.
For what it's worth, I would keep Mike Rayer as I can't see who could be brought in at this stage of the season to do a better job with one hand tied behind his back but I would get rid of Messrs Hynes, Larkin and Vass.
I despair. Never looked like winning the game. Artfulbadger is completely correct on his analysis. No penetration by the backs. No leadership. However I still believe its staring the Blues in the face. How can a few evenings training each week provide the same conditioning, organisation and ball skill practice as a full time outfit. Seems to me its the ostrich syndrome. I do not necessarily believe that the players are not good enough. It is the management, and SOME of the coaching staff that have to take responsibility.
Quote:eaglefarmerQuote:Jonathan Wilcox
Recruitment has generally been poor coupled with some poor retention and contract termination decisions. All of this is down to the Head Coach.
So the "Head Coach" sets the budget now, does he?
Until the man at the top moves on this is a club in limbo. I think we will nick another three or four wins to stay up this season but I'm not at all confident about next.
He spends the money, decides who stays and who goes, decides our game plan, so he's ultimately responsible. Like I've said on many occasions, it's all to cosy in the ivory tower and appears to be a job for the boy's. Think there needs to be a board meeting sooner rather than later.
But he can only spend what he's given, and by all accounts that isn't very much. I think it would be a very sad day if we lost Mike, who would come in on the same resources?
As for the players it's not the fact that their not good enough their just not upto it at this level.
We've always had the same model at Bedford recruiting talented players from the lower leauges. But there is such a huge gap now between the leagues that it dosen't work anymore
As for the players it's not the fact that their not good enough their just not upto it at this level.
We've always had the same model at Bedford recruiting talented players from the lower leauges. But there is such a huge gap now between the leagues that it dosen't work anymore
For the last couple of years, as I see it, we have had an entire team of journeyman players but we have lacked the shining stars with real class who used to give us a bit of magic, or get us cheering and clapping. In the backs, we have had the likes of Billy Twelvetrees, Josh Bassett and even Mark Atkinson. Aaron Morris might have been another one, but will we ever see him again? Nathan Earle would surely have done the job, if he had not been injured and if we had been allowed to keep him. Who in the present squad do you really look forward to seeing?
Darryl, Billy Moss, Joe VDM. Like the look of Hayden Stringer last night to. One less knock on and it could have been very different but that's sport. COYB.
Same 2 or 3 people saying the same 2 or 3 things - there are STILL 1000s of people SUPPORTING the Blues. COYBs
Yes and the same 2 or 3 people talking rubbish Alan. At least I'm not one of them.
1000s support the Blues 1000s: my opinion and your opinion means nothing this site is just a bite of fun where sadly people take themselves way too seriously
I think the swingometer is in our favour, with regards management change. It simply cannot continue as it stands at the moment. It's rudderless with no leadership on the field or off it.
It's not like we've suddenly just started playing badly is it? or am I imagining it.
Been going on now for a while.
To be honest getting a bit sick of COYB's crew and if you say something bad against the management or players it's wrong!
It's not wrong, not wrong at all!
Our current status is we're rubbish! and getting worse!
You know playing well and losing isn't winning!
Been going on now for a while.
To be honest getting a bit sick of COYB's crew and if you say something bad against the management or players it's wrong!
It's not wrong, not wrong at all!
Our current status is we're rubbish! and getting worse!
You know playing well and losing isn't winning!
LB-well said. We're happy that you've joined the dark side of the force. Get a few more beers down and get it off you're chest. It's the others that talk rubbish not us.
Has anyone else noticed how the name Jonathan Wilcox pops up endlessly on this forum?
I think it's time he got out a bit more.
I think it's time he got out a bit more.
Quote:blueherts
Has anyone else noticed how the name Jonathan Wilcox pops up endlessly on this forum?
I think it's time he got out a bit more.
Pot, kettle, black,
Blueherts- me you JW Red Eagle and one or two others are the people who use the forum in the main and obviously none of us have a life or friends worth speaking about - hence my idea of having a Xmas Party where us like minded people can meet have and have fun - I have arranged the venue: the Wellington Pub in Bedford ( if you are old enough I hope so it would be lovely to see you)- date to be confirmed: I will provide the food ( they have a lovely menu) - you can buy me a drink 
Quote:blueherts
Has anyone else noticed how the name Jonathan Wilcox pops up endlessly on this forum?
I think it's time he got out a bit more.
I'll post where I want and when I want thank you!
Quote:Blue for you
Blueherts- me you JW Red Eagle and one or two others are the people who use the forum in the main and obviously none of us have a life or friends worth speaking about - hence my idea of having a Xmas Party where us like minded people can meet have and have fun - I have arranged the venue: the Wellington Pub in Bedford ( if you are old enough I hope so it would be lovely to see you)- date to be confirmed: I will provide the food ( they have a lovely menu) - you can buy me a drink
I don't mix with Plebs (and I know how to pronounce it ).
Quote:Jonathan WilcoxQuote:blueherts
Has anyone else noticed how the name Jonathan Wilcox pops up endlessly on this forum?
I think it's time he got out a bit more.
I'll post where I want and when I want thank you!
Clearly you will - and do, Jonathan.
But did you realize you have posted 13 times on this one subject alone - and I have gone to the bother of counting them - how sad is that!
It's time we all got out more!
now now, please stop the bickering etc
We all have different opinions etc but the name calling needs to stop!
At the end of the day we all love and we all care about the blues, born out by our frustrations
I'd like to think that the ethics and ethos of rugby would be extended to this forum i.e we can agree to disagree, move on and still be friendly with each other
That's an end to it!!!!!
We all have different opinions etc but the name calling needs to stop!
At the end of the day we all love and we all care about the blues, born out by our frustrations
I'd like to think that the ethics and ethos of rugby would be extended to this forum i.e we can agree to disagree, move on and still be friendly with each other
That's an end to it!!!!!
Quote:bluehertsQuote:Jonathan WilcoxQuote:blueherts
Has anyone else noticed how the name Jonathan Wilcox pops up endlessly on this forum?
I think it's time he got out a bit more.
I'll post where I want and when I want thank you!
Clearly you will - and do, Jonathan.
But did you realize you have posted 13 times on this one subject alone - and I have gone to the bother of counting them - how sad is that!
It's time we all got out more!
Very sad, but I've done what I needed to do this morning, so will continue to read and post on this site as and when I see fit
The thing that I find most worrying is the lack of a statement of support in MR the coaching staff and the players from the Board.
Now I would doubt as a supporter of the Blues that I would receive any communication but as a shareholder I think the very least I am entitled to would be 'The Chairman and the Board are in full support current Management and team....'
Now I would doubt as a supporter of the Blues that I would receive any communication but as a shareholder I think the very least I am entitled to would be 'The Chairman and the Board are in full support current Management and team....'
Perhaps they aren't and they are just thinking up the exit strategy for a few of them. Who knows......
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now now, please stop the bickering etc
We all have different opinions etc but the name calling needs to stop!
At the end of the day we all love and we all care about the blues, born out by our frustrations
I'd like to think that the ethics and ethos of rugby would be extended to this forum i.e we can agree to disagree, move on and still be friendly with each other
That's an end to it!!!!!
What name calling?
Don't remember calling anyone any names.
Just an observation - or are those not allowed now?
Quote:red eagleQuote:blueherts
Has anyone else noticed how the name Jonathan Wilcox pops up endlessly on this forum?
I think it's time he got out a bit more.
Pot, kettle, black,
Please explain
Quote:How many times have you posted? How many are on topic? How many are whinging about others posts?Jonathan WilcoxQuote:red eagleQuote:blueherts
Has anyone else noticed how the name Jonathan Wilcox pops up endlessly on this forum?
I think it's time he got out a bit more.
Pot, kettle, black,
Please explain
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