Newcastle United
Mike Jones Dropped From Officiating Weekend Game
By Tyne-Talk
January 14 2014
Referee Mike Jones has been dropped from refereeing any of the weekend's Premier League games after a shocking performance at the Newcastle v Manchester City game at the weekend. Jones who caused outrage but ruling Cheik Tiote's equaliser as offside, before offending City manager Manuel Pellegrini by not sending off Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa will now play fourth official at the Stadium of Light.
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Shame he wasn't dropped from last weekends game.
The thing is though, this will be it, there will be no further action will there?
They just seem to continue, with constant impunity.
How about a league for refs, with say the bottom three (i.e those receiving the lowest marks over the course of a season) are 'relegated from the top 2 divisions, and the 3 receiving the most are promoted.
It may stop some of their blatant favourtism i.e mr webb, if they thought it would seriously effect their career.
Surely something has to be done, if I @#$%& up regularly doing my job I wouldn't expect to be employed.
The thing is though, this will be it, there will be no further action will there?
They just seem to continue, with constant impunity.
How about a league for refs, with say the bottom three (i.e those receiving the lowest marks over the course of a season) are 'relegated from the top 2 divisions, and the 3 receiving the most are promoted.
It may stop some of their blatant favourtism i.e mr webb, if they thought it would seriously effect their career.
Surely something has to be done, if I @#$%& up regularly doing my job I wouldn't expect to be employed.
i'm not one to have a rant about referee's but that idiot on sunday could have cost us 3 points and a lot of come the end of the season.
He didn't have control over the game at all in the first half, there was the obvious mistake with the goal, he booked our players for complaining but didn't book man city players when they constantly bombarded the ref and linesmen, everytime one of our players outmuscled one of theirs it was a free kick yet everytime toure went near one of our players who had the ball he pushed them over or tripped them and got away with it.
A league for refs would be a great idea, it would not only improve the premier league but it would improve the lower leagues to with ref's trying to get into the higher leagues.
I believe ref's only get assessed in 1 in every 5 games of the season, what about having a panel at every game who have the ability to change the ref at half time if they have a half like on Sunday.
As for being dropped for the weekends games he hasn't really he's been made fourth official so he's having an easy day he'll still be getting his 70k a year.
He didn't have control over the game at all in the first half, there was the obvious mistake with the goal, he booked our players for complaining but didn't book man city players when they constantly bombarded the ref and linesmen, everytime one of our players outmuscled one of theirs it was a free kick yet everytime toure went near one of our players who had the ball he pushed them over or tripped them and got away with it.
A league for refs would be a great idea, it would not only improve the premier league but it would improve the lower leagues to with ref's trying to get into the higher leagues.
I believe ref's only get assessed in 1 in every 5 games of the season, what about having a panel at every game who have the ability to change the ref at half time if they have a half like on Sunday.
As for being dropped for the weekends games he hasn't really he's been made fourth official so he's having an easy day he'll still be getting his 70k a year.
How is a referee from chester allowed to officiate a game involving a team from manchester
He made some shocking decisions, disallowing Tiote's goal and not sending off Mbiwa were the worst.
I dont think you can really criticise him for not sending off Mbiwa, from where the ref was it wouldn't have looked as bad as it was and even then it was a heavy clumsy challenge rather than a malicious one. The injury nasri suffered will have been as much from the way he landed as it was from the impact.
No attempt was made to get ball. He kicked him first with his right leg and then his left.
While I watched it during the match I could see it was a bad tackle. I thought so then and I think so now.
Click on the link below, slide down to the video.
[www.101greatgoals.com]
While I watched it during the match I could see it was a bad tackle. I thought so then and I think so now.
Click on the link below, slide down to the video.
[www.101greatgoals.com]
I actually thought it looked worse when i saw it on sunday than watching it on that video.
He tries to flick the ball away with his right foot and can't reach so he swings his left round and momentum means he hits the player, he timed it wrong and his leg wasn't long enough had he got the ball people would have been saying what a great tackle it was.
Had Nasri got back up and finished the game nothing more would have been said about it.
The referee was to nasri's right slightly behind play, what he would have seen was what looked like mbiwa tripping Nasri, he didn't have the benefit of seeing it from different angles like we did on tv. He saw it as a foul and booked Mbiwa, he can't decide to send him off because Nasri is rolling round the ground in supposed pain.
He tries to flick the ball away with his right foot and can't reach so he swings his left round and momentum means he hits the player, he timed it wrong and his leg wasn't long enough had he got the ball people would have been saying what a great tackle it was.
Had Nasri got back up and finished the game nothing more would have been said about it.
The referee was to nasri's right slightly behind play, what he would have seen was what looked like mbiwa tripping Nasri, he didn't have the benefit of seeing it from different angles like we did on tv. He saw it as a foul and booked Mbiwa, he can't decide to send him off because Nasri is rolling round the ground in supposed pain.
Quote:Chester =/= Manchester.mentalman
How is a referee from chester allowed to officiate a game involving a team from manchester
It's like saying someone from Hartlepool can't referee a Newcastle game, or someone from Reading can't referee a Southampton game.
When there's one or two bad decisions in a match fans and pundits alike will tear them apart. You wouldn't expect to stay employed if you failed to do your job, but likewise you wouldn't expect to get shown the door if 80% of the time you're doing the right thing1. They aren't failing to do their job. They're just not doing it flawlessly.
He's had a poor game, so he's been placed on the sidelines to observe and learn from a colleague. To me, this is more constructive than keeping him away from the pitch altogether.
And for those who insist he is punished, where do you think both sets of managers are going to direct their abuse when a decision goes against their team this weekend?
1 Of course this is barring gross misconduct (such as a doctor deliberately causing harm, a hedge fund manager embezzling funds or a manager of a football club taking a 'bonus' after signing a player for the club they are managing by "selling" the player a property in the area.)
NTS.
Thats where the league idea would come in, they wouldn't be judged on 'one bad game', they would be judged over the course of a season.
Thats where the league idea would come in, they wouldn't be judged on 'one bad game', they would be judged over the course of a season.
Aye, and who would make up the panel of judges?
The fans?
Ex-footballers?
Managers?
The PGMOL?
The next question is, how are they scored? A "Match rating" (sort of like Wasim's) assessment would probably be the most straightforward...but again, like Wasim's, it's heavily weighted to opinion and who is writing them.
I'm all for the idea of improving the standard of refereeing, but I'm not convinced that encouraging competition over collaboration (which is what a league system would do) is the right course to take.
The fans?
Ex-footballers?
Managers?
The PGMOL?
The next question is, how are they scored? A "Match rating" (sort of like Wasim's) assessment would probably be the most straightforward...but again, like Wasim's, it's heavily weighted to opinion and who is writing them.
I'm all for the idea of improving the standard of refereeing, but I'm not convinced that encouraging competition over collaboration (which is what a league system would do) is the right course to take.
you could make up a panel of ex referees, ex players and managers all score the ref and then take an average from all of the scores.
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