Weather for Sharks?


By Grockle et al
August 10 2014

The weather may very well decide this  game as we waft between lovely August Sunshine and torrential rain under dark and brooding skies.  Sussex have wln the toss, decided to field and we presently have a 44 over game starting at 11:40

v SUSSEX 50 overs @ Taunton Sunday 10 August 2014

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Commentary

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Sussex, Somerset and the backend of Hurricane Bertha seems to be the menu for today's home game in the 50 over tournament. Sussex won the toss and decided to field in muggy damp conditions om a pitch that looks like it might do 'a bit' early on.

The side is;

Trescothick, Compton, Ingram, Hildreth, Barrow, Trego, Gregory, Meschede, Thomas, Groenewald and Leach

The service to commemorate the hundreth anniversary of the start of World War 1 took place inside but the new screen was used inventively to show the records of the 13 Somerset cricketers who died in the Great War. One minutes silence preceded the advertised start of 11 with everyone in the ground standing respectfully. But then the rain had its first say as the Sussex men walked out and the heavens opened.

After waiting about 15 minutes the covers left the field and Sussex tried again, almost immediately the rain hammered down and off they came once more - probably the story of the day.

At 11:40 we finally got a real start with a 44 over game.  Hatchett opens from the River and Marcus gets off the mark with the first ball.  3 runs by the end of the first looks good as Yasir Arafat starts the second and has Marcus playing on with his first ball and Pete dubiously 'caught behind' off his second - our relationship with Umpire Cook continues.

It is slow as the ball is moving left to right and up and down as variable bounce makes the batsman's position even more precarious.  It is almost welcome when the rain returns and the umpires take the sides off after 5.1 overs with Somerset 10 for 2.

Back on an hour and 40 minutes later after heavy rain and an increase in the strength of the breeze.  Colin Ingram decided that a 33 over game (as it has become) needed a different mindset and he nearly doubled the home side's score off the first 2 balls of the unfinished Arafat 6th.  The sun had come out now and the cloud had lifted a little.  But the conditions seemed to be changeable in a very short period of time.  The much stronger breeze was having an effect however.

A score in excess of 200 must be the Somerset target it is felt and certainly the urgency of Ingram suggests that with the  50 coming up in the 12th however you have to wonder if that is the feelkng of both batsmen and it is with a feeling of 'now we can get moving' that Nick is given out by Umpire Cook at 99 for a score of 42.  Not an unpleasant innings by any means but just not 'urgent' enough.  His replacement, James Hildreth was expected to be a partner more to the South African's liking.  The 100 arrived halfway through the 20th and his own 50 arrived soon after off 57 balls with 6 fours and a six.  110 for 3 at the start of the 21st.

The 150 came up in what seemed like a quicker time though it wasn't really (27th over) but Colin then went to the well once too often and was run out looking for a second run at 157 for another excellent innings of 71.  One more game from Ingram before the return of Alviro on Thursday.  HE is going to have his work cut out to keep up the momentum.

Alex Barrow was the next man in, suprising quite a few as we needed 50 plus off the last 6 or 6 overs.  However no-one really had to worry as he was bowled first ball and Lewis Gregory took his place.  I personally would have probably sent in Tim Groenewald to have a bit of a go with the long handle but was is not to be and we went past the 30th over marker needing 22 for the 200 after Gregory took Hatchett for a straight six during his over.

It all becomes a little regulation as the side slowly moves towards 200.  Unfortunately they come up against Yasir Arafat bowling the last and at 193 it stops because he takes 3 for 1 in the 33rd.  Lewis is caught behind trying to hook him vrom ball one.  Tim Groenewald is sent in too last and dies on the boundary trykng to hit a four or a six off his first and Craig Meschede is absolutely skittled by an inswinging yorker as he tries to move us to 199 by smashing the last ball of the innings.

193, with a possible adjustment should not be enough on this ground.

The Reply

Things didn't start well as the Duckworth Lewis system revised down the Sussex requirement to 189.  This I can never understand.  If the innings are of the same duration, WHY does anything need revising.  It is surely simply a need for the visitors to score one more than us.

Anyway, Nash then compounded things by being dropped at second slip by the skipper, a ball that then became a front foot free hit from Lewis. After 5 overs (when we were 10 for 2) Sussex had reached 46 and it started to look like early trip home. The 50 arrived with the second ball of the 6th as the Somerset new ball pair have no real solution to Nash and Wright.

The game did take a turn for the better when Jack came on to bowl and produced somr excitement and decent figures but other than that it was a very poor day with the ball and in the field.  Alex missed a pretty regulation stumping, Nick missed a difficult diving catch in the covers and the Boss missed an easier one in the same place, Alfonso didn't hold on to a decent C&B while Craig M couldn't hold one on the boundary. Tim Groenewald bowled poorly while others who were less costly were underbowled and in the end an extra gave them the win with 4 overs to spare.

Poor performance at home to be honest and we still need to get it sorted to qualify.

Jack Leach 7-1-21-2 and Colin Ingram 71 are a couple of good things to take away frlm this....not a lot else unfortunately.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014:08:11:16:02:45 by Grockle.

Grockle
09/08/2014 19:53
Unusual FB from SCCC asking for patience and explaining the process of deciding if a game is to start or not. They may be expecting little tomorrow morning as Bertha comes to town.

(Sm72)

wsm fan
09/08/2014 20:27
Looks dodgy but by no means a write off.
Overnight awful, morning dodgy, then sunny spells and showers midday onwards.
10 over minimum bash so would think as late as 4.45/5pm start.

Guess it depends how long the mopping up takes.....

SheptonPaul
09/08/2014 20:32
Good foresight from the Club - foreseeing problems and warning potential spectators accordingly, especially the bit about having to wait for umpires to make any decisions - well done.

AGod
09/08/2014 21:00
To be honest we may be better off with 1 point and the game being washed out rather than being exposed to something like a lottery of a 10 overs per side game with a wet ball.

Scrumper
09/08/2014 21:57
I'm sure the ground staff could put the sprinklers on if the hurricane doesn't do it's job.

Clarence Parker
09/08/2014 22:01
Yes, good foresight by the club.

They tend to be very good at some things administratively, but horribly wrong at others.

Well done on this anyway.

Sloop John B
10/08/2014 09:08
The expected heavy rain and wind in TA1 last night but now cleared by. Still some wind to help the drying. May be a rather late start but I'm quietly optomistic!

Loyal of Lhasa
10/08/2014 10:49
Cricinfo says play is to start at 11.00. Is that realistic?

LoL

Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Grockle
10/08/2014 11:05
Well they got on the pitch after the minutes silence, it started to rain and the covers came on as the Sussex side left.

It's clear and windy but there is rain everywhere. Sussex won the toss and will bat. Whenever.

If the weather I drove through to get to the ground is coming our way it will be sometime about 5!!

However presently the covers are on and the groundstaff are waiting by them and the Sharks are in the dugouts so we may start soonish.

(Sm72)

Loyal of Lhasa
10/08/2014 11:11
Thanks Grockle. It sounds as if it will probably be miraculous of we get a proper day's cricket.

Grockle
10/08/2014 11:31
11:40 start 44 overs. Sunshine now but dark clouds are everywhere.

(Sm72)

Grockle
10/08/2014 11:46
Marcus out playing on off first Yasir over. Vulnerable again at the start of an innings.

(Sm72)

Grockle
10/08/2014 11:48
Yasir on a hat-trick as Pete goes caught behind first ball 3 for 2 after 8 balls.

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 11:51
Yuck.

Come on rain.

AGod
10/08/2014 11:54
The games involving Notts and Kent should hopefully fall to Bertha anyway, with weather coming up from the SW, I cannot imagine that it will have cleared either Birmingham or Nottingham at a point which would leave time for a game.

AGod
10/08/2014 12:07
Kent's game at Birmingham has now been duly abandoned.

AGod
10/08/2014 12:13
Games at Leicester and Derby have been abandoned without a ball bowled, so one imagines that Nottingham - Test match drainage notwithstanding, is unlikely to be very far behind.

Grockle
10/08/2014 12:14
Off at 12 10 for 2 at 5.1. Big covers coming on.

(Sm72)

Grockle
10/08/2014 13:46
On again with a 33 over game. Ingram has just about doubled our score off the first 3 balls.

(Sm72)

Grockle
10/08/2014 14:09
Live event number 8 for those with TuneIn apps on their phone. Such a fag trying to find it though 8 and 15 seem to be the numbers to start at nowadays.

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 14:20
Grockle - how is the sky line? Does it appear that we might stay on for a decent period of time?

Thanks.

Grockle
10/08/2014 14:24
Fluffy cloud and bits of light blue sky over the Quantocks. Blustery wind. Larger accumulation at the back of the OP but I don't think that is in contention. Ingram thinks we'll be here a while but is keen to get things going and is looking to turn everything into 2. Compo is not so keen so a run out may be on the cards.

They are playing in bright sunshine at the moment.

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 14:26
Thanks for the first part of the news - let's hope the second part of it does not materialise!

Grockle
10/08/2014 14:41
Compton adjudged LBW by Umpire Cook at 99 score of 42.

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 14:50
A nice thing about Ingram is that he almost never seems to get bowled out quickly for a poor score.

AGod
10/08/2014 14:54
We'll presumably need a good 100 or so off the final 10 overs to have a reasonable chance?

I suppose one factor in our favour may be that our bowlers will not have a ball more than 17 overs old with which to bowl - so the phase that we've seen in earlier games at Taunton where the ball that is 20-25 overs old gets flayed all over the place may not occur?

Railboy
10/08/2014 14:58
Will the Shark's required total be adjusted to account for the fact that we spent 5 overs thinking it was a 44 over match?

AGod
10/08/2014 15:05
Good question.

I think that the answer is 'yes.'

Grockle
10/08/2014 15:17
Colin is run out at 157 going for a dodgy second. Good 71 constantly trying to push the score along. I'd not have sent Baz in next needing another 50 or so off the last 6.

Baz is out quickly first ball bowled Piolet

So Lewis gets there after all (I might have sent in Tim personally)

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 15:18
No idea why they sent Barrow ahead of Gregory, given the situation?

Surely we needed quick runs as quickly as possible.

p.s this commentator is an absolute nightmare.

Nailsea_Fizz
10/08/2014 15:25
Quote:
AGod
A nice thing about Ingram is that he almost never seems to get bowled out quickly for a poor score.

Odd choice of words. That's not an unsubtle dig at the captain is it. Are you suggesting Mr ingram should open are you?

AGod
10/08/2014 15:28
All tailing off by the sounds. And even if their target is adjusted because we spent just under 5 overs in a 44 over game, I doubt it will add more than 10-12 or so to their target... which could leave them needing only 205-210 or so in a 33 over game.

On paper, that would normally be a very comfortable Sunday League type target (the old 40 over Sunday League i.e. 240 or so is normally very comfortable at Taunton from 40 overs).

Let's hope we can bowl really well.



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AGod
10/08/2014 15:30
Sorry, Nailsea, but it's got nothing to do with Trescothick nor anybody else that was out quickly today.

AGod
10/08/2014 15:35
Why can't this commentator shut up about the wretched Luke Wright?

Anybody would have thought they had Viv Richards in their line-up from the way he's jibbering on about flaming Wright.

Grockle
10/08/2014 15:35
14 off the last 2 to make the score 200. No real urgency since Colin went. A six off Hatchett in the 30th but otherwise a run a ball seems accaptable

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 15:39
Let's hope that means that Tres/our batsmen think we already have enough! (and that they are right).

Grockle
10/08/2014 15:41
32.1 Gregory hooks to the keeper and Groenewald comes out and holes out first ball. Yasir makes hay in the last over again

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 15:44
Could not have ended in worse fashion in the final over, really!

AGod
10/08/2014 15:44
I reckon Sussex will be set 214 or 215 to win from 33 overs.

The Met Office is suggesting further rain, so early wickets could be absolutely huge, if we could get them.

AGod
10/08/2014 15:45
Steve Snell doesn't seem thrilled that neither IDB nor Kirby have turned up to do commentary!

geordie moonraker
10/08/2014 15:49
I would have thought 200 was the minimum with a target I would have guessed as 212.Still the vital thing is to keep them well behind the D/L

Grockle
10/08/2014 15:56
But Lukey must be looking for an England one day berth so he'll make a bucketful as he always does just before a squad selection

(Sm72)

Grockle
10/08/2014 15:57
New target for Sussex 189!!!

(Sm72)



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Ronniesabre
10/08/2014 16:01
How does that work?

Grockle
10/08/2014 16:03
First ball, snick, drop at 2nd slip, misfield as ball goes under the hand and the ball is designated a front foot no ball as well so there is a free hit. Hmmmm does not bode well.

Better second from Lewis.

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 16:04
What?

That's a disgrace. Why on earth should they be given an EASIER target?

This might be an absolute cock-up by the umpires like the one in that 50 over game at Lord's a few years ago that I mentioned the other day, where they gave us three more power-play overs than we were entitled to.

geordie moonraker
10/08/2014 16:04
How does that come about? We shall have to bowl like demons and take wickets galore.

Grockle
10/08/2014 16:04
Something to do with the loss of three wickets for 1 in the last over negating the fact that Somerset expected to be batting for 44 overs at the start of the innings.

(Sm72)

Loyal of Lhasa
10/08/2014 16:05
I am increasingly baffled by Duckworth Lewis. Somerset had to start their innings twice (at least) and surely some allowance ought to be made for that.

LoL

Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Ronniesabre
10/08/2014 16:05
Joke cricket . Nothing will surprise me with that buffoon cook in charge

Grockle
10/08/2014 16:07
I can never understand the logic of any side being required to score less than the actual total in a game where innings are of the same length.

Why do you need D/L until something shortens the second innings? Then use it by all means.

If I score 193 in 33 overs then you have to score 194 to beat me IF you are expecting to bat 33 overs as well.... why is there a need for anything else?

(Sm72)



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AGod
10/08/2014 16:09
Well, if that's the reason why, Grockle, they should probably give Yasir the man of the match award now - for not only did he take a hat-full of wickets but he's probably saved them 15 runs into the bargain!

Nailsea_Fizz
10/08/2014 16:11
How ridiculous is that. So if they get of to a flyer without losing many wickets and it rains again that's even more in their favour.?

AGod
10/08/2014 16:19
It isn't sounding as though the target is going to make much difference. Sounds like an absolute thrashing is heading our way.

Nailsea_Fizz
10/08/2014 16:27
Well it appears the Commentator ,ay have been correct. Mr Wright seems to be taking the game away from us very quickly.

AGod
10/08/2014 16:29
We're taking it away from ourselves with execrable bowling by the sounds of it. Short stuff, no-balls, wides.

But we lacked any real explosion in our innings anyway, such that we probably never had a defendable total on the board whatever we bowled.

Grockle
10/08/2014 16:34
Lots of short stuff going to the boundary and almost no balls worrying the batsmen. We are taking some hidings at Taunton

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 16:41
We seem to have bowled really well in all three away games in this 50 over stuff, thus far.

But bowling at Taunton seems to be an item on the agenda labelled "improvement needed."

Frome Exile
10/08/2014 16:42
Surely it has more to do with the fact that the interruption came so (relatively) early in the piece?
After all, for pretty much 85% of our innings, we knew we would only be facing 33 overs.

Nailsea_Fizz
10/08/2014 16:47
Well Young Jack seem to be keeping his head. Can anyone else bowl slow.

rambling sid
10/08/2014 16:54
Why has the target been changed. What is the logic. It seems as though there is an inbuilt prejudice against Somerset within D/L. Anyway perhaps we wont need to worry. Sussex have now lost 3 for 9.

Frome Exile
10/08/2014 16:54
The point being that the difference between 5.2 overs of a 44 over game (as it started, I believe) and 5.2 overs of a 33 over game "ain't a right lot", as several of my punters would say!

AGod
10/08/2014 16:55
Leachy fighting an almost lone battle, by the sounds, but doing it rather well!!

FE - Our knowing that we'd be facing only 33 overs for 85% of our innings would be a good reason for their target being only slightly more than what we got? But I can't see how it's reason for them to chase a lower target than the number of runs that we made?

Frome Exile
10/08/2014 17:12
Presumably that relates to the fact that having lost wickets early. In a sense the reduction helped us bat out the overs, and they lost overs with which to dismiss us.
Had we been 10 for 0 at the interruption, I'm fairly sure Sussex' target would have been increased.

AGod
10/08/2014 17:14
Yes, I suspect that is probably right.

AGod
10/08/2014 17:18
In fact, what they may have done to us is taken the D/L projected score for a team that was 10 for 2 after 5 overs of a 44 over game and our actual score and split the difference or something like that -- in other words the projected D/L score over 44 overs might have been 184 for a team that was 10 for 2, and our actual score was 193.

AGod
10/08/2014 17:21
What they could do with - but I don't think they have - is a D/L formula for each ground as opposed to a generic formula. This would take account of grounds, such as our own, that tend to be far quicker scoring grounds than others.

Grockle
10/08/2014 17:42
Whatever the system 'they' want is, it had to be seen as a) fair and b) understandable to more than a Mathematics PhD.

As someone once said, whatever the merits of the D/L it never SEEMS fair or particularly logical.

150 about to appear with 7 and a bit overs left. Not a lot of hope here for a Somerset victory.

(Sm72)

Grockle
10/08/2014 18:09
Oh dear oh lore. Winning run from a TG extra and a defeat with 4 overs to go. Jack was good again, Colin kept the faith with the bat but we were too lacklustre at the end of our innings and too keen on the short ball in theirs.

It wasn't going to be enough unless we took early wickets and we hardly looked like taking any before Marcus threw the ball to Jack and then after he stopped bowling. This was a case for Rodders "why bowl him and not bowl him" argument.

Tim was preferred even though his stats were significantly poorer than Craig M's yet on we went.

Still don't have that 'think on your feet' ability or a willingness to change a formula that isn't working. Either that or we don't have the resources to change it significantly on the pitch.

Either way we need another win. On to Glamorgan on Tuesday.

(Sm72)

Nailsea_Fizz
10/08/2014 18:09
Well that was a bit of a shambles. Oh well Tuesday could be fun, due to rain again I think.

AGod
10/08/2014 18:17
We can possibly count ourselves fortunate that rain wiped out everything else, meaning that Sussex are the only side against whom we lost 2 points, relatively speaking.

rodders
10/08/2014 18:22
Nuff said Grockle really !

SheptonPaul
10/08/2014 18:44
Well, I could rant about DL again, but I think you're all ahead of me there (except FE, oddly winking smiley). Seems like we were well beaten in any case...win the next one.

Grockle
10/08/2014 18:54
True Shep. Had D/L added 10 or so rather than deducted 4 it was not a particularly defendable total if we were to defend like that. With 4 overs to play with they could have reached a 220-ish total pretty easily.

(Sm72)

Botham
10/08/2014 19:22
Next season we should have a new one day captain, so maybe tictacs will change!

Grockle
10/08/2014 19:25
You obviously know something we don't Botham. If It's James, I wouldn't bank on it.

Tictacs have been the sweets they are for a considerable time now. (Sm100)

(Sm72)



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Frome Exile
10/08/2014 19:44
D/L is far from perfect, but until someone comes up with a better system, it is what it is.
If you bat first and there's weather around, don't lose a fifth of your wickets in a tenth of your overs. Simples!!!
winking smiley

rodders
10/08/2014 20:36
Very true FE - very true - fraid MT is a bit of a liability as an opener most of the time in this format.

And for me we need a better captain than Marcus in all forms of the game but none available from within.

Import............?!

Mike TA1
10/08/2014 21:02
Well what can I say it was a day to forget for some, missed chances in the field and some of the bowling was rubbish.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2014%20Somerset%20Cricket/Royal%20London%2050%20over%20matches/Somerset%20v%20Sussex%2010th%20August%202014/Worldwaroneoneminutesilence.jpg

It was also a day to remember those who lost their lives in World War One, my grandfather never returned and was never found, one minute silence was held before the match started.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2014%20Somerset%20Cricket/Royal%20London%2050%20over%20matches/Somerset%20v%20Sussex%2010th%20August%202014/CraigCachopactLewisGregorybldJackLeach.jpg

This catch by Lewis Gregory to dismiss Craig Cachopa off Jack Leach was harder than it looked, the ball was hit so high it was moving around in the strong wind Lewis ended up running a long way to catch it. It looks like Jack Leach ended up nearer to it in the end.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2014%20Somerset%20Cricket/Royal%20London%2050%20over%20matches/Somerset%20v%20Sussex%2010th%20August%202014/ChrisNash6runs.jpg

This was one of the worst overs I have seen from Alfonso Thomas (his second) it went for sixteen runs, this is Chris Nash hitting the six in the over.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2014%20Somerset%20Cricket/Royal%20London%2050%20over%20matches/Somerset%20v%20Sussex%2010th%20August%202014/ChrisNashOffAlfonsoThomaswkAlexBarrow.jpg

Alex Barrow had a missed day today, here he is making a good stop off the bowling of Alfonso Thomas. Unfortunately he missed an easy stumping.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2014%20Somerset%20Cricket/Royal%20London%2050%20over%20matches/Somerset%20v%20Sussex%2010th%20August%202014/CraigMeschedebldYasirArafat.jpg

Craig Meschede bowled by Yasir Arafat off the last ball.

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Lewis Gregory playing some sort of reverse shot only to hit it straight behind to Ben Brown off Yasir Arafat.

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Most people would say Alex Barrow was unlucky when the ball rolled back onto his stumps off the bowling of Steffan Piolet.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2014%20Somerset%20Cricket/Royal%20London%2050%20over%20matches/Somerset%20v%20Sussex%2010th%20August%202014/ColinIngram4runsandhis50runs.jpg

Colin Ingram was the best of the batsmen today this shot was a four and his fifty.

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I am sorry this photo is out of focus of Marcus Trescothick losing his leg stump off Yasir Arafat I wasn't ready for it so early in the match, I know I should have been when Marcus is batting (TIC)


And to add Nick Compton score looks good on paper but there were 30 ball he didn't score off.

Grockle
10/08/2014 21:02
What a deep surprise that statement is Rodders.

I think an import is unlikely as it does seem that James has been identified as the most likely candidate to take over. It may be revised but not until 2015 probably.

(Sm72)

Roger ivanhoe
10/08/2014 21:12
Game won with the toss and change in the weather I think, but if we had another 20/30 runs it could have been a different result.

Would still like to see Marcus move down the order in 1 day games, our bowlers (apart from Jack) we're not at their best, I was Surprised Pete was not used, he did enough warm ups in the outfield to make his point.
Marcus at one point went off the field for a short time to have his Ankle checked, but returned so must have been ok.
Good Run Out by Alex, but shame about stumping..

On to Tuesday.

Ronniesabre
10/08/2014 21:17
I think saying losing the toss decided it is a bit hard on Sussex. Outplayed us all over the place and that's what if be concentrating on if I was nosworthy and the rest

Grockle
10/08/2014 21:17
The dropping down the order is starting to become an issue again Roger but it seems unlikely even though I personally have to agree with you. There was a distinct lack of invention and urgency at the end of our innings, we left it until Yasir's last over (had we forgotten what he did for us in games like these?)

Our score was therefore lower and his 6 ball performance had a secondary effect on the D/L score (though personally I don't think that made any real difference).

But you are right. At least 25 short.

(Sm72)



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AGod
10/08/2014 21:24
I think Compton and Hildreth faced a combined 87 balls (or something like that) and hit only six of them to the boundary. That's really too low a ratio of boundaries to balls faced, IMO, from two guys who, between them faced about 44% of the deliveries in our innings.

Grockle
10/08/2014 21:27
Colin Ingram found himself far too many times looking for another run and facing Nick's back. He wanted to push it on but didn't get huge amounts of support on non boundary shots until James arrived at the crease. There were a couple of times when messages seemed to be going out to the batsmen in the middle.

(Sm72)

Roger ivanhoe
10/08/2014 21:36
I thought they might have sent in Tim G, before James to get the scoring rate up, it worked before, I know TG failed when he did come in, but I just think at times we are not flexible enough.

Grizzers
10/08/2014 21:38
The weather & DL disruption can't have helped at all, so I don't read too much into this result.

Equally though, the areas where we need to improve aren't hard to spot. More consistency from the top order and the imperative (if we are to maintain serious aspirations to win this competition), to reduce the run leakage.

Please don't bowl short lads. It very rarely achieves anything other than two thirds of the square root of zero.

Grizzzly

Grockle
10/08/2014 21:44
Certainly should have been in before Alex on simply 'in form' v 'out of form' batsmen.

When he did come in he had less than an over. Maybe Lewis should have swung a little more but a run a ball seemed 'OK'.

A run a ball is an absolute minimum in limited overs games and we didn't even get to that rate. 10 overs left? You have to look to add as near to 100 as possible and more if given the chance.

(Sm72)

AGod
10/08/2014 21:48
Yep.

wsm fan
10/08/2014 23:26
Poor display really.
Toss didn't help, we had worse of condition batting in gloom and dank conditions.
D/L I often get, don't agree with it often but I do get logic of what it is trying to achieve.
Today i'm baffled, how our score was reduced when we were the ones hampered by not knowing length of our innings when we set off is beyond me, I fail to see how wickets lost effects it. going up to 200 I could have understood, but down???

Leach was excellent, again no Tregs after 2 good displays in the week! 4 seamers all couldn't do enough given lack of runs to defend.

Still very confident of going through, 1 win will do it from 2, and if plenty of rain about next few days even 1 point may do it.

geordie moonraker
11/08/2014 00:09
You win some you lose some. 2 excellent wins in the week when our scoring rate was virtually the same as today. We are in fact better suited to a longer game. I point out again that the Msex members around me were wishing that MT was their skipper. It was a pity that we were the only game being played.

AGod
11/08/2014 07:10
A pity for spectators at other grounds, but not a pity for Somerset!

geordie moonraker
11/08/2014 10:04
I'm baffled AG. If like the rest we had been washed out then we would have had one more point, so why is losing that point not a pity?

SheptonPaul
11/08/2014 10:06
I think he means that Somerset spectators saw some cricket and the club got some gate money.

geordie moonraker
11/08/2014 10:22
Ah right. I was thinking of points and the table.

Grockle
11/08/2014 10:26
True we did get 66 overs of cricket on a Sunday in August.

(Sm72)

AGod
11/08/2014 11:39
I misunderstood what you meant, GM, when you said that "it was a pity that we were the only game being played." I thought you meant that it was a pity that all of the other games were rained off...... this, of course, meant that teams like Notts and Kent, that might well have otherwise scored 2 points to our zero, were unable to do so.

SheptonPaul
11/08/2014 21:46
Derby 211-6 off 32 overs today; Northants target = 227, also off 32.

Don't know the sequence of interruptions, but seems more like what we expected yesterday. Derby only lost 6 wkts while we lost 8; makes wonder what Sussex target might have been if we'd blocked out a maiden for the last over.

AGod
11/08/2014 22:26
I think FE is probably right that the problem was the first stanza (before our innings was shortened), more so than Arafat blowing us away in the final over.

Grockle
11/08/2014 23:18
Not according to the stats boffin in the press box on Sunday, The 3 wickets for 1 run seemed to make a 'significant' difference on the tables he had.

(Sm72)

Scrumper
11/08/2014 23:56
Don't mess with D/L.

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