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Tie up the loose ends at Notts
Way to go PT!
By Grockle
September 3 2008
Biggest game of the season? Some would say so and many would be right. We're struggling if we don't do some damage to the leaders in this game. A poor start is contained and reset by a 90 run 9th wicket stand between Peter Trego and Andy Caddick. Well done boys!
v Nottinghamshire LVCC1 @ Trent Bridge Wednesday 3 September 2008
Winning the toss seemed like a good start to this one. Choosing to bat also seemed sensible given the conditions at the time. But they soon changed, as did Somerset's fortunes!
Langer went into this one without the services of Neil Edwards replaced by the later batting expertise of Wes Durston. Other than that it was a line-up with few surprises. Steffan Jones missed out as Trescothick, de Bruyn, Hildreth, Blackwell, Trego, Kieswetter, Thomas, Caddick and Willoughby made up the eleven.
Losing the captain to a first ball duck as he expected movement which didn't come gave us the worst start and on a rain affected day we never really go a pair of batsmen in long enough to put a real partnership together. Zander deBruyn, Hildreth and Durston went for 10 between them and even the Mighty Marcus only reached the mid-thirties before falling to Adams.
Blackwell got into the 20's before Shreck got him
Pattinson took three - all caught behind and at one point we were 51 for 5 before Craig Kieswetter and Peter Trego put something together to get us into 3 figures.
The rain broke up the afternoon and finished the day's play around the Tea interval with 143 on the board with 7 wickets down. Not a great position to go into Day 2 but it could have been worse I suppose.
We don't have this match by the sphericals I'm afraid but we must ensure we do not give the advantage to Notts on Thursday.
Day 2
So we need a big partnership...and that becomes even more important once Alfonso goes.
So Peter takes charge and with the help of a certain Andrew Caddick Somerset move over 200 and towards the next batting point target of 250. When Trigger finally goes at 241 we are so close and the big man nurses Willoughby over the gain line before we finish at 252. Great work gentlemen Well done.
Now all we need to do is get them in and get them out as quickly and as cheaply as possible. But that has to be done between the showers as the rain continues to affect the day.
Enter Charl with the cricketing weapon he does know how to work with - the ball. Jefferson and Adams get them to 40 and then he strikes... Both openers are dispatched by Willoughby in short order at that score; Jefferson caught behind and Adams caught Durston.
Another rain shortened day but they only have 8 wickets left and only 46 up at the end of it. We are still 300 runs ahead and a good spell tomorrow morning could still make this game interesting (and get us more bonus points). The Day 3 weather is no better than the first two if the forecast is to be believed but with luck it might hold off and these two sides may get a chance to make a game of this one.
Day 3 and 4
No chance at all. The rain came in and came down and nothing was possible on either day. We finish with a draw and stand 4 points behind Notts BUT with a game in hand and a home fixture against our rivals in third place Durham (Harmison and all) starting on Tuesday. The has to be the game that decides our season.
It is a game we have to win
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Discussion started by Grockles.com , 03/09/2008 13:45
Extract from the ECB site. Full story :- [www.ecb.co.uk]
Nottinghamshire currently top Division One of the LV County Championship table but meet nearest challengers Somerset in a mouth-watering encounter at Trent Bridge.
The leaders may be boosted by the return of Graeme Swann or Samit Patel from the second day of the match if they are not selected for England in the final game of the NatWest Series on Wednesday
Justin Langer is back to lead Somerset in their crucial clash against Nottinghamshire after missing the draw against Hampshire 10 days ago.
The Australia opener heads a squad which inludes Steffan Jones in addition to the XI which played in their last championship match.
Ian Blackwell scored 129 in that fixture and will be eager to continue where he left off, with another notable innings at Trent Bridge
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Nottinghamshire currently top Division One of the LV County Championship table but meet nearest challengers Somerset in a mouth-watering encounter at Trent Bridge.
The leaders may be boosted by the return of Graeme Swann or Samit Patel from the second day of the match if they are not selected for England in the final game of the NatWest Series on Wednesday
Justin Langer is back to lead Somerset in their crucial clash against Nottinghamshire after missing the draw against Hampshire 10 days ago.
The Australia opener heads a squad which inludes Steffan Jones in addition to the XI which played in their last championship match.
Ian Blackwell scored 129 in that fixture and will be eager to continue where he left off, with another notable innings at Trent Bridge
The link to my Photos on Photobucket - [s1152.photobucket.com]
Come on boys,let's show them how to do it.
The CC is so close we can almost touch it.
Let's give it our all,every last one of us,a win here and we'll be able to smell it.
All the best lads,good luck.
The CC is so close we can almost touch it.
Let's give it our all,every last one of us,a win here and we'll be able to smell it.
All the best lads,good luck.
We only need two to roll that lot over. All right, two and a half then.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Agreed, with Caddy and Willohgnby on that dodgy Trent Bridge wicket we have a great chance.
A perfect time and situation for a typical old style Langer innings too, head down and grind it out.
Come on boys, great position we have got ourselves in, lets give it everything
A perfect time and situation for a typical old style Langer innings too, head down and grind it out.
Come on boys, great position we have got ourselves in, lets give it everything
In a West Country newspaper today, Justin Langer was quoted as saying that should Somerset win their next two County Championship games, against both Nottinghamshire and Durham, then the title will be theirs for the taking.
Two wins out of two, and against two of the top three teams at that? When this season we have won just three out of twelve games so far, that is one heck of an ask.
Good luck to them - many things will need to go Somerset's way, and you Langer will have to lead from the front in every aspect of the games!
Two wins out of two, and against two of the top three teams at that? When this season we have won just three out of twelve games so far, that is one heck of an ask.
Good luck to them - many things will need to go Somerset's way, and you Langer will have to lead from the front in every aspect of the games!
Good luck one and all.
Hope that it's the cricket that determines the results & not the weather !
Grizzzly
Hope that it's the cricket that determines the results & not the weather !
Grizzzly
I hope the weather better next season. I'm looking forward to next summer.
Does winning the County Championship really mean so little to you Wurzel?
Last week you told us how disillusioned you were with everything SCCC and how you were resigning from the regional committee.
Your last few posts indicate that you no longer care for the cricket.
Is this all because one player has been dropped from the 40 over games?
Last week you told us how disillusioned you were with everything SCCC and how you were resigning from the regional committee.
Your last few posts indicate that you no longer care for the cricket.
Is this all because one player has been dropped from the 40 over games?
Are you going to Hampshire next season Wurzel?
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:09:03:02:33:47 by BristolRob .
Quote:BristolRob
Are you going to Hampshire next season Wurzel?
Very probably, but then I have been for the last few seasons.
If you mean will I be supporting Somerset? I have always supported Somerset and will always do so, but I have been very disappointed with the way the club has been run over the last couple of years.
Due to my work commitments I see very little CC cricket, so I base my thoughts on limited overs stuff. The club initially announced that due to ECB restrictions they would be limiting their Kolpak players, to save money (reduced subsidies) and to allow more home grown players a chance. We seem to have taken a backward step and brought in more players, reducing the chances for our youngsters.
If we win the CC, then brilliant we'll have won it for the first time and we'll have a trophy, but don't feel we should aim to win it at all costs. Many people have been unhappy with various aspects of our club, this year, both on and off the field.
Everyone should be treated fairly and with respect. Unfortunately this hasn't been the case this year.
The captaincy and management of our 1 day team, this year and to an extent, last year, has been poor. We have been disorganised and our field placings haven't suited our bowlers.
The plans for our ground improvements have been changed, with what it appears very little consultation with the membership.
My experience of being on an area committee is that we are there to make up the numnbers and raise money. Some folks have good contacts and work extremely hard, raising significant sums, but they don't appear to have much say, simply rubber-stamping what the management committee have often already put in place.
As for many on this forum, it seems that you'd be happy to win the CC at all costs, for me people come first.
If work commitments are ruining your cricket then surely the answer to that is find another job.
You have every right to contribute to this forum, Wurzel, and express your preferences for cricket, as well as your personal opinions as to how the cricket is played and indeed, how the club is run.
I do not necessarily agree with all the sentiments that you have expressed, but I would defend to the hilt your right to do so without being lampooned by others.
You have probably done more for Somerset C.C.C. than a number of other people by way of your membership of the Club, your membership and work for an Area Committee and above all else, your attendance at matches in order to support our team.
I applaud you for that, and am sorry that you have been the subject of some cheap and unnecessary jibes.
I do not necessarily agree with all the sentiments that you have expressed, but I would defend to the hilt your right to do so without being lampooned by others.
You have probably done more for Somerset C.C.C. than a number of other people by way of your membership of the Club, your membership and work for an Area Committee and above all else, your attendance at matches in order to support our team.
I applaud you for that, and am sorry that you have been the subject of some cheap and unnecessary jibes.
I too respect wurzel's right to his opinion, but with respect, they often tend to come across more as hobby-horses than considered opinions.
I am sure I am not alone in remembering that in recent years, when Blackwell was a regular in all of our teams, Wes Durston was wurzel's "favourite player", and the poster's signature has often featured his exclusion as a "cause celebre". Now that Dusrton's in, some may say at Blackwell's expense, the argument is reversed!
You can't select every one in the squad.
Edit: Please don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that I disagree with wurzel about any given issue. Just trying to point out that every decision has a consequence - every inclusion requires an exclusion, every high priority carries with it an implication that something else is of lower priority - every fielder placed is another fielder moved. That's life!
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I am sure I am not alone in remembering that in recent years, when Blackwell was a regular in all of our teams, Wes Durston was wurzel's "favourite player", and the poster's signature has often featured his exclusion as a "cause celebre". Now that Dusrton's in, some may say at Blackwell's expense, the argument is reversed!
You can't select every one in the squad.
Edit: Please don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that I disagree with wurzel about any given issue. Just trying to point out that every decision has a consequence - every inclusion requires an exclusion, every high priority carries with it an implication that something else is of lower priority - every fielder placed is another fielder moved. That's life!
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I'd like to think that everybody who uses this forum respects others points of view.
However,if you make a comment regarding cricket or anything to do with cricket it will get responded to.
If you don't want a response then don't post an opinion,that's the very nature of a forum.
If you post an opinion expect a response.
If somebody,regardless of who it is is constantly complaining about our team,management,selcetion policy,effort levels,fielding positions,commitment,tea,coffee and biscuits then yes,they can expect a response.
I simply asked Wurzel a question about his declared lack of enthusiasm.
Please respect that.
However,if you make a comment regarding cricket or anything to do with cricket it will get responded to.
If you don't want a response then don't post an opinion,that's the very nature of a forum.
If you post an opinion expect a response.
If somebody,regardless of who it is is constantly complaining about our team,management,selcetion policy,effort levels,fielding positions,commitment,tea,coffee and biscuits then yes,they can expect a response.
I simply asked Wurzel a question about his declared lack of enthusiasm.
Please respect that.
I hope our guys in the Trent Bridge dressing room are a little more chilled and on better terms than we seem to be on the forum this morning! Calm down, lads, calm down.
Chilled just before a game?
I used to play with a bloke,a hooker who used to go around the dressing room punching all the team members prior to a match,proper punches too just to get people revved up.
Mind you,he was ginger.
I used to play with a bloke,a hooker who used to go around the dressing room punching all the team members prior to a match,proper punches too just to get people revved up.
Mind you,he was ginger.
...and presumably Welsh?
Anyway, no score or team news on Cricinfo or BBC - presumably a delayed start?
Anyway, no score or team news on Cricinfo or BBC - presumably a delayed start?
CricInfo's team is incomplete as yet.
I hope the missing name is Willoughby.
The ten they have is
JL, MT, ZdB, JH, WD, IB, CK, PT, AT, AC
I hope the missing name is Willoughby.
The ten they have is
JL, MT, ZdB, JH, WD, IB, CK, PT, AT, AC
Quote:Frome Exile
I too respect wurzel's right to his opinion, but with respect, they often tend to come across more as hobby-horses than considered opinions.
I am sure I am not alone in remembering that in recent years, when Blackwell was a regular in all of our teams, Wes Durston was wurzel's "favourite player", and the poster's signature has often featured his exclusion as a "cause celebre". Now that Dusrton's in, some may say at Blackwell's expense, the argument is reversed!
You can't select every one in the squad.
Edit: Please don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that I disagree with wurzel about any given issue. Just trying to point out that every decision has a consequence - every inclusion requires an exclusion, every high priority carries with it an implication that something else is of lower priority - every fielder placed is another fielder moved. That's life!
As Bamber Gascoigne used to say, FE, "well remembered". I did indeed used to champion Wes's cause, but I have been disappointed with his limited bowling contributions this season. He's an excellent fielder and can do a good job with the bat. He, like other youngsters, needs to seize every opportunity with both hands, as there are many others waiting in the wings.
Keith Parsons is another I campaigned for, when there was a possibility he might go to Kent.
I hardly think Wes has displaced Ian, maybe Omari or Arul. Wes has been used as a specialist fielder and batsman. Omari and Arul have both bowled. Omari has usually been fairly measly with his runs when bowling, but I don't remember and outstanding batting or fielding. Arul is usually outstanding in the field and can be a reasonable batter and bowler.
In order of preference I'd pick Blackie, Arul (if Wes doesn't bowl), Wes then Omari.
I trust this is a reasonable analysis.
BTW it's BJ that's into horses, not me.
Quote:Palairet
You have every right to contribute to this forum, Wurzel, and express your preferences for cricket, as well as your personal opinions as to how the cricket is played and indeed, how the club is run.
I do not necessarily agree with all the sentiments that you have expressed, but I would defend to the hilt your right to do so without being lampooned by others.
You have probably done more for Somerset C.C.C. than a number of other people by way of your membership of the Club, your membership and work for an Area Committee and above all else, your attendance at matches in order to support our team.
I applaud you for that, and am sorry that you have been the subject of some cheap and unnecessary jibes.
Thank you for your kind words, Palairet. I don't believe I've been as kind to you, on occasion.
Yes, Willo's on the list I can see.
Notts have 12 listed - I suspect Swann will replace Hales (?) when he gets back from the England ODI set-up later today / tomorrow morning.
Notts have 12 listed - I suspect Swann will replace Hales (?) when he gets back from the England ODI set-up later today / tomorrow morning.
tufnell parka
03/09/2008 10:52
03/09/2008 10:52
Both the umpires for this huge game are ex-Nottinghamshire openers.
That doesn't make me happy - I hope Langer's LBW was plum.
That doesn't make me happy - I hope Langer's LBW was plum.
It's certainly a measured response, wurzel.
Again, I stress, I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with your conclusions (although I might question whether we can continue to consider Wes a youngster!).
I was simply stating that I could understand why others might react the way they do when you seem to simply champion a succession of excluded players at the apparent expense of backing those in the side.
Again, I stress, I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with your conclusions (although I might question whether we can continue to consider Wes a youngster!).
I was simply stating that I could understand why others might react the way they do when you seem to simply champion a succession of excluded players at the apparent expense of backing those in the side.
Looks like its all down to Marcus again....it's ju8st started raining here so who knows what will happen. Has Langer's batting disintegrated?
Two ex-Notts umpires - I'd rather thought all umpires were ex-Somerset!
I think you're right about Hales being the man to make way, SP.
He didn't feature in their last match, and is the fourth opening bat on their team sheet. And they must be fairly confident Swann will be back, as they've left out their other other spinner from the last match, Ferley.
He didn't feature in their last match, and is the fourth opening bat on their team sheet. And they must be fairly confident Swann will be back, as they've left out their other other spinner from the last match, Ferley.
Further to the above, I see that this is Hales' championship (edit: and first-class) debut. Will it still count as such if he gets replaced before he either bats or bowls?
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36/2 - time for The Emperor (in partnership with the Master of the Universe).
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Please could our resident statistician post JL's last dozen, or so, scores?
Quote:wurzel
Please could our resident statistician post JL's last dozen, or so, scores?
First-class or List A?
I had already checked in response to geordie moonraker's earlier remark. The majority of Langer's first-class scores of fifty plus have come in the latter half of the season, akltyhough he hasn't converted a fifty in the second half of the season.
His last two scores before today were in the 70s.
This is obviously not looking good: but for now we must console ourselves with the expectation that whatever Pattinson can do, Willoughby can do better.
The high scoring draw is out of the window, so we will just have to win, won't we!
The high scoring draw is out of the window, so we will just have to win, won't we!
Totally agree FE.
We can wrap this up in under two days.
Go get 'em lads.
And get off the skipper's back,he's doing his best like the rest of them.
We can wrap this up in under two days.
Go get 'em lads.
And get off the skipper's back,he's doing his best like the rest of them.
Can someone nip out to the shops or something? I've bought a lovely long length of pre-treated timber to replace the rotten bargeboard on the garage roof. There, I've done my bit (or is it shopping trips only when the opposition are batting?).
Call the inspectors in, take 100 points off Notts.
That one team out of the way.
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That one team out of the way.
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Tractor they can leave the shopping until after lunch.
I keep forgetting it is September and the matches start earlier.
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I keep forgetting it is September and the matches start earlier.
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Is there further consolation in that two lbws for the 6'7" Shreck might be indicative of the type of indifferent bounce that might suit Caddick?
I note that Cricinfo has wiped the whole score off now, so presumably this morning didn't actually happen at all.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I think they may be starting again LoL,it's a new rule which the visiting side can claim if things don't go to plan.
Sounds very sensible to me; bowlers get six chances in every over, while poor Langer only got one.
Is there any commentary anywhere?
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Is there any commentary anywhere?
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
OMG I've just noticed that we put ourselves in ! Keep digging in boys, about to Australia should do us.
... must be about time for you to hibernate anyway, isn't it? I'd recommend it.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Good point LoL
I'll just nip out to the woods & find a nice hole to bury myself in !
Grizzzly
I'll just nip out to the woods & find a nice hole to bury myself in !
Grizzzly
All division 1 matches are "Rain stop play", early tea will now be taken.
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What price another Langer declaration? (Should the rain stop, of course - Ed)
Obviously one is not allowed to declare spuriously in order solely to deny opposition bowling points, but it could be construed as a legitimate tactic to take advantage of a recently uncovered pitch.
Apparently Langer is allowed to ask the Umpires for an"indicative ruling" as to how any declaration would be viewed before he makes it. I wonder whether he has.
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Obviously one is not allowed to declare spuriously in order solely to deny opposition bowling points, but it could be construed as a legitimate tactic to take advantage of a recently uncovered pitch.
Apparently Langer is allowed to ask the Umpires for an"indicative ruling" as to how any declaration would be viewed before he makes it. I wonder whether he has.
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Declare you little Aussie genius.
Skittle those Northerners and get the points on the board.
Skittle those Northerners and get the points on the board.
We must ensure we're all out this evening AND take at least five Notts wickets and then call in the pitch inspector to dock points from the home side. Therefore Langer should not declare.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Actually here's another possible source of points.... according to cricinfo Nottingham have 12 players! Doesn't sound fair to me.
But enough of all this defeatism. Loads of time to go yet.Just think Hampshire.
But enough of all this defeatism. Loads of time to go yet.Just think Hampshire.
Quote:wurzelQuote:Palairet
You have every right to contribute to this forum, Wurzel, and express your preferences for cricket, as well as your personal opinions as to how the cricket is played and indeed, how the club is run.
I do not necessarily agree with all the sentiments that you have expressed, but I would defend to the hilt your right to do so without being lampooned by others.
You have probably done more for Somerset C.C.C. than a number of other people by way of your membership of the Club, your membership and work for an Area Committee and above all else, your attendance at matches in order to support our team.
I applaud you for that, and am sorry that you have been the subject of some cheap and unnecessary jibes.
Thank you for your kind words, Palairet. I don't believe I've been as kind to you, on occasion.
Wurzel, I don't recall you or any other contributors to this site being unkind to me, but thank you anyway.
The other two matches in division 1 are called off for the rest of day 1.
And so is Somerset!!
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And so is Somerset!!
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By the way, I notice there's no mention at all of possibly Somerset's most important match for years on the 'official' other site. Do they know it's happening, or are they still concentrating on selling tickets for the home Pro40 matches in August...?!
... nor does there appear to be any radio commentary on a match between the two leading sides in the first division.
Has this wretched summer defeated everyone?
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Has this wretched summer defeated everyone?
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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'Official' site has just discovered there is a rather important game going on & posted a somewhat cursory report.
No comments from anyone - maybe they weren't printable!
Grizzzly
No comments from anyone - maybe they weren't printable!
Grizzzly
I haven't been deated by the Summer LoL.
Maybe because I have no idea what deated is.
As for the rain,I'm afraid we only have ourselves to blame.
We're all partly responsible for messing up the climate.
Back of the class now please and 1000 lines.
I must learn to spell.
Big Jim is my hero.
Maybe because I have no idea what deated is.
As for the rain,I'm afraid we only have ourselves to blame.
We're all partly responsible for messing up the climate.
Back of the class now please and 1000 lines.
I must learn to spell.
Big Jim is my hero.
I am slightly surprised that Langer didn't declare overnight or when the 8th wicket fell.
While I hope I'm wrong, there's little chance of us getting to 200 or 250 for bonus points, while more chance of Notts enhancing their points total. With the prospect of little play over the next few days (the weather forecast really is shocking), I'd have thought JL might have thought we'd be better off going for 3 or 6 wickets ourselves rather than allowing Notts the points for 9 wickets.
Of course, I'm not at Trent Bridge and have no first-hand idea of conditions or local forecast, that's just my observation from afar.
While I hope I'm wrong, there's little chance of us getting to 200 or 250 for bonus points, while more chance of Notts enhancing their points total. With the prospect of little play over the next few days (the weather forecast really is shocking), I'd have thought JL might have thought we'd be better off going for 3 or 6 wickets ourselves rather than allowing Notts the points for 9 wickets.
Of course, I'm not at Trent Bridge and have no first-hand idea of conditions or local forecast, that's just my observation from afar.
200 almost secured with them still a wicket away from the final bowling point. 50 for BoBo (I have to agree with Bo that he's wasted at 8!).
But I more-than-half expected an overnight declaration too, SP.
If we get 200 with only 8 down should we pull out then?
But I more-than-half expected an overnight declaration too, SP.
If we get 200 with only 8 down should we pull out then?
Surely the best way to win this game, is for us to score loads more runs, and then bowl Notts out for, say, 12 runs. Then, we put them back in and bowl them out for between 10 and 20 runs (allowing for a bit more circumspection from the Notts batsmen), thus giving us the win.
Surely Langer has considered this option? If not, questions should be asked and he needs to go off and have a quiet word with himself.
Surely Langer has considered this option? If not, questions should be asked and he needs to go off and have a quiet word with himself.
Have to say Bloke I don't know were you got the idea that the Notts batsmen were going to carry out operations like ... , sorry, 'circumspection from the Notts batsmen' , I misread it for a second.
200 up - just get to 400 then declare.
200 up - just get to 400 then declare.
I'm sure he is a bright and experienced enough guy to have considered this, and other, options, bloke!...though maybe so experienced that he knows how rarely, even at Trent Bridge in 2008, sides are bowled out twice for a combined total of less than 40! 
Anyway, I didn't foresee a 49-run partnership for the 9th wicket - well played Trigger and Co!
Anyway, I didn't foresee a 49-run partnership for the 9th wicket - well played Trigger and Co!
What's more, we're batting on after reaching 200 - either JL thinks we can get to 250 and conditions have eased, Bobo looks a million dollars or he thinks the track will get worse and first-innings runs will be gold-dust later in the game.
Fascinating, isn't it? Beats one-day cricket...
Fascinating, isn't it? Beats one-day cricket...
Well that's a bonus point i didn't expect. All we want now is 50 and a and a fivefer from the big fella and all of a sudden life looks up.
No play yet at Durham although it is dry here at the moment-which is more that Taunton looks from Sky.
No play yet at Durham although it is dry here at the moment-which is more that Taunton looks from Sky.
Apparently (according to Palairet's "thisisbristol" article on the other thread) the average completed first innings score at TB this season is only 234, so this late order rally may yet put us in an none-too-unfavourable position.
Thought I'd check out the Lancs webcam to see if they are playing as well as they could, and found this rather alarming situation:
Methinks their lawnmowers need to be re-calibrated.
Methinks their lawnmowers need to be re-calibrated.
Thanks Bloke, a fine vantage point from which to watch Pete's sixes making their way down the high street.
WEll played Bobo. Now is the time for Willow to show his batting skill in pursuit of 7 runs.
I misread bloke's little piece too Tractor.
For a minute I thought he was suggesting they were all Totenham fans.
I must stop misreading little pieces.
Does anybody disagree with my assessment of Trigger now?
Best in the land by a country mile.
Well done Pete.
For a minute I thought he was suggesting they were all Totenham fans.
I must stop misreading little pieces.
Does anybody disagree with my assessment of Trigger now?
Best in the land by a country mile.
Well done Pete.
252 - gotta be pretty content with that.
Great work by the lower order (again), though WIllo still not sure which end to hold.
Skittles time now!
Great work by the lower order (again), though WIllo still not sure which end to hold.
Skittles time now!
Okay so it looks as though Justin has bowed to this messageboard pressure, and has eventually declared.
Great comeback, lads. Now get them out for Bloke's 12.
Great comeback, lads. Now get them out for Bloke's 12.
Well played big fella and Willow for hanging around long enough to a get the point and b get them in for 2 overs before lunch -unless they take early
Magnificent performance by Trego and Caddick this morning -by my reckoning that puts us just two points behind Notts, with the possibility of three bowling points to come and still a game in hand.
Langer's real dilemma will be whether to enforce the follow-on after we skittle them out for less than fifty.
LoL
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Langer's real dilemma will be whether to enforce the follow-on after we skittle them out for less than fifty.
LoL
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Do not forget that Notts got 3 bowling points and were 3 ahead at the start of the game. IE the current standing is Notts 152 Somerset 148 with amax of 3 bowling points available to Somerset. Then they will be 1 point adrift if nottsdo not score more than 199 all out.
Showers around the area for most of the afternoon.
Showers around the area for most of the afternoon.
In my enthsiasm I forgot that Notts picked up a third bowling point this morning; by my calculations that makes 153 to 150, allowing for our two batting points. (I am assuming the table on Cricinfo reflects the overnight position)
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Is it raining in Nottingham? The score does not seem to have moved on since lunch.
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Well done PT & AC. Great effort to give us batting respectability, not to mention a couple of invaluable points.
Pesky weather.
Just get it sorted by next Tuesday please chaps. Grizzzly hopes to make it to the first day of the Durham game !
Grizzzly
Pesky weather.
Just get it sorted by next Tuesday please chaps. Grizzzly hopes to make it to the first day of the Durham game !
Grizzzly
Meanwhile Durham are accumulating batting points - and I seem a remember a certain W R Smith was a thorn in our side (or against our side) once.
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Great news to hear you'll be at Taunton next week, Grizzzly. Take your wellies.
Sad (for me) that I shall not be able to be there myself
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Sad (for me) that I shall not be able to be there myself
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Rats.
That's a shame LoL. I was hoping to shake paws !
Ah well, another time, another place etc !
Grizzzly
That's a shame LoL. I was hoping to shake paws !
Ah well, another time, another place etc !
Grizzzly
Don't worry about Durham. It's hammering dwon in Newcastle now so they won't last much longer.
... and I think the forecast is that there won't be a dry spot in the whole world on Friday, isn't it?
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tufnell parka
04/09/2008 15:53
04/09/2008 15:53
From the guardian blog
12.35pm Graeme Swann joined Nottinghamshire's side a day late for their top-of-the-table championship match against Somerset after the end of England's one-day series, writes David Hopps at Trent Bridge. His chances of getting a bowl this morning did not seem too good when Somerset resumed at 143-7 - but so spirited was their resistance that he had to intervene to prevent a calamitous Notts morning session.
Somerset finished on 252, adding another 109 in 26 overs, with Peter Trego supplying a forceful 86 from 108 balls, an innings full of boisterous sallies off the back foot. The Notts seamers, who had been so dominant on the opening day, were brusquely repelled, leaving Swann to join the attack with Somerset 232-8 and Trego 82 not out.
Swann did not play a game in England's one-day series - his county teammate Samit Patel was preferred - so he could have been forgiven for feeling a little rusty. But his intervention soon ended Trego's assault as a legside clout was intercepted at deep midwicket by Mark Wagh, a fine running catch. Trego's ninth-wicket stand with Andrew Caddick was worth 90. The match could not be more finely balanced, but it needs to develop quickly today with heavy rain forecast for tomorrow's third day
12.35pm Graeme Swann joined Nottinghamshire's side a day late for their top-of-the-table championship match against Somerset after the end of England's one-day series, writes David Hopps at Trent Bridge. His chances of getting a bowl this morning did not seem too good when Somerset resumed at 143-7 - but so spirited was their resistance that he had to intervene to prevent a calamitous Notts morning session.
Somerset finished on 252, adding another 109 in 26 overs, with Peter Trego supplying a forceful 86 from 108 balls, an innings full of boisterous sallies off the back foot. The Notts seamers, who had been so dominant on the opening day, were brusquely repelled, leaving Swann to join the attack with Somerset 232-8 and Trego 82 not out.
Swann did not play a game in England's one-day series - his county teammate Samit Patel was preferred - so he could have been forgiven for feeling a little rusty. But his intervention soon ended Trego's assault as a legside clout was intercepted at deep midwicket by Mark Wagh, a fine running catch. Trego's ninth-wicket stand with Andrew Caddick was worth 90. The match could not be more finely balanced, but it needs to develop quickly today with heavy rain forecast for tomorrow's third day
And there is a picture of Pete playing one of said back foot shots in cricinfo front page
Yes they are; No they're not....
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
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With this bad weather, I think the best we can hope for is a draw with Notts being all out for less than 200.
tufnell parka
04/09/2008 21:10
04/09/2008 21:10
another update from the guardian blog
6.20pm Notts' experimental opening pair, Will Jefferson and Bilal Shafayat, might have been designed as an optical illusion rather than an answer to their batting problems at the top of the order, writes David Hopps. Jefferson, at nearly 6ft 10ins, is the tallest county cricketer in the land, whereas Shafayat, if he stands on tiptoe, just about musters 5ft 7ins. Stare at them long enough as they stand 22 yards away from each other and eventually you imagine that the Trent Bridge pitch is steeply sloping.
They put on 157 against Sussex at Hove last week, but the new alliance might yet fall foul of Health & Safety because if they ever try to punch gloves there is the danger that Shafayat will be left with a bloody nose and Jefferson will collapse to the crease clutching his groin.
There were few excuses for glove punching on this occasion. A cautious opening stand ended on 40 - immediately after Somerset got the ball changed - when Jefferson edged Charl Willoughby to the wicketkeeper. Andre Adams was sent in as nightwatchman, but he is not really cut out for such responsibilities and he carved to gully in the same over. Notts completed an awkward 18 overs in milky evening sunshine on 46-2. They trail Somerset by 206.
Shafayat was almost dismissed on three when he drove Andrew Caddick to short extra where Max Waller's claim for a catch, supported by his teammates, was not upheld by the umpire Patsy Harris. Both Harris and his fellow official, Tim Robinson, are former Notts players. It says a lot about cricket's deep well of goodwill that nobody is the slightest bit concerned at such things.
6.20pm Notts' experimental opening pair, Will Jefferson and Bilal Shafayat, might have been designed as an optical illusion rather than an answer to their batting problems at the top of the order, writes David Hopps. Jefferson, at nearly 6ft 10ins, is the tallest county cricketer in the land, whereas Shafayat, if he stands on tiptoe, just about musters 5ft 7ins. Stare at them long enough as they stand 22 yards away from each other and eventually you imagine that the Trent Bridge pitch is steeply sloping.
They put on 157 against Sussex at Hove last week, but the new alliance might yet fall foul of Health & Safety because if they ever try to punch gloves there is the danger that Shafayat will be left with a bloody nose and Jefferson will collapse to the crease clutching his groin.
There were few excuses for glove punching on this occasion. A cautious opening stand ended on 40 - immediately after Somerset got the ball changed - when Jefferson edged Charl Willoughby to the wicketkeeper. Andre Adams was sent in as nightwatchman, but he is not really cut out for such responsibilities and he carved to gully in the same over. Notts completed an awkward 18 overs in milky evening sunshine on 46-2. They trail Somerset by 206.
Shafayat was almost dismissed on three when he drove Andrew Caddick to short extra where Max Waller's claim for a catch, supported by his teammates, was not upheld by the umpire Patsy Harris. Both Harris and his fellow official, Tim Robinson, are former Notts players. It says a lot about cricket's deep well of goodwill that nobody is the slightest bit concerned at such things.
I'm starting to have conversations with myself, like AG does.
I now know who Max Waller is.
I still don't know why he was fielding for us. I hope nobody was injured.
I now know who Max Waller is.
I still don't know why he was fielding for us. I hope nobody was injured.
Max Waller,
Young lad, played for Dorset for a few years, one of the precious Millfield alumni that missed the Somerset draft.
Good amount of rip, good pace through the air and had a couple of good sessions with the Academy against Banger where he was most noticed.
No idea about his batting but has been 12thers for a couple of games.
Very different to Mike Munday but rated by MET. One for the future?
VtF.
Young lad, played for Dorset for a few years, one of the precious Millfield alumni that missed the Somerset draft.
Good amount of rip, good pace through the air and had a couple of good sessions with the Academy against Banger where he was most noticed.
No idea about his batting but has been 12thers for a couple of games.
Very different to Mike Munday but rated by MET. One for the future?
VtF.
Thanks Vic - nice to read you again. Max is contracted for the season as well and they have been taking younger guys along to experience first team away games so it was probably Max's turn.
Tufnell PArka quoted the Guardian blog
"Shafayat was almost dismissed on three when he drove Andrew Caddick to short extra where Max Waller's claim for a catch, supported by his teammates, was not upheld by the umpire Patsy Harris. Both Harris and his fellow official, Tim Robinson, are former Notts players. It says a lot about cricket's deep well of goodwill that nobody is the slightest bit concerned at such things."
That is spot on and one of the features that makes cricket what it is. Can you imagine .say Alan Shearer a) becoming a ref
being allowed to ref a Newcastle game c) disallowing an opposition goal. The back pages will be full.
Here, even if the umpires had been wrong we would have automatically assumed no bias...and long may it continue.
The weather at Chester le Street may well hold all day so Durham could do themselves a bit of good.
"Shafayat was almost dismissed on three when he drove Andrew Caddick to short extra where Max Waller's claim for a catch, supported by his teammates, was not upheld by the umpire Patsy Harris. Both Harris and his fellow official, Tim Robinson, are former Notts players. It says a lot about cricket's deep well of goodwill that nobody is the slightest bit concerned at such things."
That is spot on and one of the features that makes cricket what it is. Can you imagine .say Alan Shearer a) becoming a ref
being allowed to ref a Newcastle game c) disallowing an opposition goal. The back pages will be full.
Here, even if the umpires had been wrong we would have automatically assumed no bias...and long may it continue.
The weather at Chester le Street may well hold all day so Durham could do themselves a bit of good.
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I am assuming the table on Cricinfo reflects the overnight position
I am coming back to this late, so you may already know this. But I believe that the CricInfo "in-running" table is updated shortly after each completed innings. So for instance its position overnight last night would be to reflect our batting points but not any bowling points (not that we have any yet!).
As a perhaps better demonstration, take a look at CricInfo's "Full Scorecard" option for the current Yorks-Sussex game. You will see that towards the bottom of the page, Sussex have been credited with their two batting points, but not yet their two bowling points from the as-yet-incomplete Yorks innings. The points on the "Full Scorecard" are the points which are reflected in the "live" table.
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That is correct FE cricinfo do update all their stats as the matches progress.
It is when they get it wrong it can throw you.
I think they use LoL's spread sheet.
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It is when they get it wrong it can throw you.
I think they use LoL's spread sheet.
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Yes Mike, but only at the completion of each innings, rather than session by session. That's the point I was trying to stress.
I hadn't noticed that FE in my ignorance I now know why I got it wrong once before.
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I get it now, though it's confusing when it appears that Durham have not even started their match when we know they already have two points in the bag.
Anyway, we've still got the best average points per match.
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Anyway, we've still got the best average points per match.
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No play Friday due to rain
All we can hope for is some play tomorrow and get our bowling points and a draw.
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This is what I was on about when I said "When cricinfo get it wrong".
Their table at the moment is not showing the Durham v Lancs game being played.
See table :- [content-uk.cricinfo.com]
They normally put a star against the teams/matches being played. Durham should be playing their thirteenth match like we are.
They are also not showing the Kent v Surrey match being played.
What I was trying to do was see when Somerset and Durham play the game in-hand they have on Notts and Kent.
It is this coming week, there are only two Division one matched on starting 9th September.
Somerset v Durham, Taunton, 10:30
Surrey v Hampshire, The Brit Oval, 10:30
After these matches we will have a clearer view of the table.
This is the rest of the games till the end of the season.
Tuesday, 09 September 2008
LV County Championship - Division One
Somerset v Durham, Taunton, 10:30
Surrey v Hampshire, The Brit Oval, 10:30
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Wednesday, 17 September 2008
LV County Championship - Division One
Durham v Sussex, Riverside, 10:30
Lancashire v Kent, Liverpool, 10:30
Surrey v Nottinghamshire, The Brit Oval, 10:30
Yorkshire v Somerset, Scarborough, 10:30
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Wednesday, 24 September 2008
LV County Championship - Division One
Kent v Durham, Canterbury, 11:00
Nottinghamshire v Hampshire, Trent Bridge, 11:00
Somerset v Lancashire, Taunton, 11:00
Sussex v Yorkshire, Hove, 11:00
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Their table at the moment is not showing the Durham v Lancs game being played.
See table :- [content-uk.cricinfo.com]
They normally put a star against the teams/matches being played. Durham should be playing their thirteenth match like we are.
They are also not showing the Kent v Surrey match being played.
What I was trying to do was see when Somerset and Durham play the game in-hand they have on Notts and Kent.
It is this coming week, there are only two Division one matched on starting 9th September.
Somerset v Durham, Taunton, 10:30
Surrey v Hampshire, The Brit Oval, 10:30
After these matches we will have a clearer view of the table.
This is the rest of the games till the end of the season.
Tuesday, 09 September 2008
LV County Championship - Division One
Somerset v Durham, Taunton, 10:30
Surrey v Hampshire, The Brit Oval, 10:30
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Wednesday, 17 September 2008
LV County Championship - Division One
Durham v Sussex, Riverside, 10:30
Lancashire v Kent, Liverpool, 10:30
Surrey v Nottinghamshire, The Brit Oval, 10:30
Yorkshire v Somerset, Scarborough, 10:30
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Wednesday, 24 September 2008
LV County Championship - Division One
Kent v Durham, Canterbury, 11:00
Nottinghamshire v Hampshire, Trent Bridge, 11:00
Somerset v Lancashire, Taunton, 11:00
Sussex v Yorkshire, Hove, 11:00
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A game in hand over your rivals is only any use if you can actually get on the park and play for some additional points.
The advance weather forecast for Taunton next week promises (if that is the right word) rain every day of the Durham match apart from the Wednesday, with the threat of it being `heavy` on Thursday.
The only consolation might be that as we are playing Durham, the only other county with a game in hand near the top of the table, they will be affected by the self same rain.
The advance weather forecast for Taunton next week promises (if that is the right word) rain every day of the Durham match apart from the Wednesday, with the threat of it being `heavy` on Thursday.
The only consolation might be that as we are playing Durham, the only other county with a game in hand near the top of the table, they will be affected by the self same rain.
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A game in hand over your rivals is only any use if you can actually get on the park and play for some additional points
Not if one's deficit is less than the 8 points availablr for not getting on the park!
I think the implication of FE's remark is that if not another ball were bowled this season we would win the championship, in which case I nominate him for President - and I trust that he will select as his running mate someone capable of better judgment than naming her daughter Bristol. What's wrong with Slough or Basingstoke for goodness sake! (Though I recognise that Maidenhead might have been a bit optmistic)
LoL
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...or Taunton?
Minehead would've been quite good, or Watchet, or Chard. Shepton Mallet would have been absurd, as would Nempnett Thrubwell.
Minehead would've been quite good, or Watchet, or Chard. Shepton Mallet would have been absurd, as would Nempnett Thrubwell.
I've know a few women who probably were called Watchet. It's certain what a lot of them often said to me.
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That bit about Maidenhead made me laugh LoL,I have to admit it.
People shouldn't name their kids after places,it's just daft.
Have to dash now,little Williton Bridgwater Neath Llwynhendy Carmarthen Johnstown Jones is due her bath.
People shouldn't name their kids after places,it's just daft.
Have to dash now,little Williton Bridgwater Neath Llwynhendy Carmarthen Johnstown Jones is due her bath.
I thought there were only four points available to each side for not getting on the park, FE.
That was certainly the case when Durham v Notts was washed out on all four days at Riverside last month.
That was certainly the case when Durham v Notts was washed out on all four days at Riverside last month.
You're quite right, cj-m. It's four - but the spirit of the post is still valid.
Although sadly I fear that it does mean that LoL's extension, that we would be campions in the event of there being no further cricket this year, would prove to be in error. I fear we would end up level on points with Notts but with one victory fewer.
So we need one more wicket, and therefore one more bowling point, before the remainder of the season is lost!
Although sadly I fear that it does mean that LoL's extension, that we would be campions in the event of there being no further cricket this year, would prove to be in error. I fear we would end up level on points with Notts but with one victory fewer.
So we need one more wicket, and therefore one more bowling point, before the remainder of the season is lost!
Quite right, FE; my optimism so often gets ahead of my intellect.
So we get one ball in this morning, take a wicket and then it can rain everywhere for the rest of time.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
So we get one ball in this morning, take a wicket and then it can rain everywhere for the rest of time.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Campions with red or white flowers?
That's very appropriate for Somerset F.E.
That's very appropriate for Somerset F.E.
The BBC, & Cricket Info showing the match as a draw?
Assume day four must be rained off.
or is it my age.
Assume day four must be rained off.
or is it my age.
Looks as if my hope for that one ball, one wicket, one point have been dashed. So we have to thank Trego and Caddick for the two batting points they secured (and watch what happens, if anything) in the Durham match).
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Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Yep, according to bbc our game, durham game and sussex all last day wash outs.
Pretty much as you were then before this round of games.
Makes Durham game huge this week, a win for either will go a huge way to deciding title.
Shame Craig is out, stupid game football!!!
Pretty much as you were then before this round of games.
Makes Durham game huge this week, a win for either will go a huge way to deciding title.
Shame Craig is out, stupid game football!!!
The table on Cricinfo has reverted to the points BEFORE the current round of matches, which is not very impressive.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Durham's match also seems to have been called off, which will do us no harm.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
We need to keep an eye on Kent game i feel.
Surrey must surely be looking to create a result fom this game as their position looks awful.
They need 3 wins to stand any chance.
Therefore i wouldnt be surprised if they try and bat today and set Kent a tempting target tomorrow after a few declarations.It will mean Kent forgoing 5 batting points so they will be looking for 17pts max, which would take them 5 clear of us having played a game more.
Long range forecast for Taunton already looking dodgy for Tuesday/Wednesday unfortunately
Surrey must surely be looking to create a result fom this game as their position looks awful.
They need 3 wins to stand any chance.
Therefore i wouldnt be surprised if they try and bat today and set Kent a tempting target tomorrow after a few declarations.It will mean Kent forgoing 5 batting points so they will be looking for 17pts max, which would take them 5 clear of us having played a game more.
Long range forecast for Taunton already looking dodgy for Tuesday/Wednesday unfortunately
From 85 for 5 with Durham at 200-1 to come out of our match with the same number of points as Durham must count as a real bonus. Are the gods smiling on us at last ????
wsm fan wisely points out the danger of Kent coming up on the outside rail (I'll explain that to you later, BJ) and geordie m asks: Are the gods smiling on us at last ????
My worry is that the leading Archbishop sits at Canterbury and may have a hot line to those upstairs...
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
My worry is that the leading Archbishop sits at Canterbury and may have a hot line to those upstairs...
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Very true, wasnt expecting us to be in this position at 12.30 on Wednesday.
Looking more and more like the home Lancs game is going to be the league decider.
The way the weather is going if we can take even a 3 or 4 point lead into that round of games we'll be looking good.
At least Durham are away in their last game so will stop them producing another dodgy 2 day resut strip. Especially afer what happened in the reverse game i cant imagine Key and Kent doing Durham any favours in that game...
Looking more and more like the home Lancs game is going to be the league decider.
The way the weather is going if we can take even a 3 or 4 point lead into that round of games we'll be looking good.
At least Durham are away in their last game so will stop them producing another dodgy 2 day resut strip. Especially afer what happened in the reverse game i cant imagine Key and Kent doing Durham any favours in that game...
Well done, LoL: that last comment brought on the rain at Canterbury.
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Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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I have the Kent commentary and the umpires are checking the conditions, they are saying more rain is on the way anytime.
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Well with minimal play today hopefully that should make a set up difficult tomorrow.
Kent probably looking at 7pt draw at best as cant see them having time to bowl surrey and then get to 200 for batting points too
Kent probably looking at 7pt draw at best as cant see them having time to bowl surrey and then get to 200 for batting points too
I didn't know the new rules have been change, the commentators said you can't have a one innings match anymore, there is no forfeitting of first innings, or a one innings match.
Lunch 12.30 inspection after lunch Kent v Surrey.
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I was unaware of that too Mike BOS.
Surely though they could get around it by declaring their innings after a few overs or would that be frowned upon?
If not then it seems certain 7 points is the best Kent can get, and that pretty much secures Surreys relegation
Surely though they could get around it by declaring their innings after a few overs or would that be frowned upon?
If not then it seems certain 7 points is the best Kent can get, and that pretty much secures Surreys relegation
I did point that out during the last round of matches, chaps.
Do try and pay attention!
Do try and pay attention!
FE some of us are lucky enough to go and watch cricket so can't always find time to read all your excellent postings and keep up to date.
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Some of the rules are interesting in that I have never seen them implemented; this is one such rule about substitutes.
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7.1.1 No Substitute may take the field until the player for
whom he is to substitute has been absent from the field
for a period of five consecutive complete overs, with the
exception that if a fieldsman sustains an obvious
serious injury or is taken ill, a Substitute shall be allowed
immediately
Have anybody seen this applied this year I haven’t
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7.1.1 No Substitute may take the field until the player for
whom he is to substitute has been absent from the field
for a period of five consecutive complete overs, with the
exception that if a fieldsman sustains an obvious
serious injury or is taken ill, a Substitute shall be allowed
immediately
Have anybody seen this applied this year I haven’t
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I didn't know the new rules have been change, the commentators said you can't have a one innings match anymore, there is no forfeitting of first innings, or a one innings match.
I am not sure, Mike, that the commentators were correct in saying that.
Regulation 18 of the Playing Conditions, 2008 for The LV County Championship, and which extends to some 38 pages, states:-
Forfeiture of Innings
Law 14.2 shall apply.
Law 14.2:-
Forfeiture of an innings
"A captain may forfeit either of his side's innings. A forfeited innings shall be considered as a completed innings."
It would appear to me then that nothing has changed.
However, one thing that would appear to have changed is the policy of the captain of a batting side declaring their innings closed, when it appears to have no reason other than to prevent the bowling side from achieving further bowling bonus points, and without enhancing the batting side's prospects of winning or saving the match. Such actions could be deemed as "bringing the game into disrepute."
Shades of Langer v. Middlesex at Lord's last year?
Touche me, no.
I was trying to be clever FE obviously it didn't work.
I don't take offence easley.
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I was trying to be clever FE obviously it didn't work.
I don't take offence easley.
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It just goes to show Palairet that not everybody know all the rules connected with the game.
Even the umpires can get it wrong sometimes (The Turner taken off incident).
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Even the umpires can get it wrong sometimes (The Turner taken off incident).
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That's fine, Mike. I thought I'd inadvertently offended you, but thankfully not! 
What has changed, Palairet, is that until recently, if a CC match started with less than 8 hours playing time left, it automatically became a single innings game. This is no longer the case.
What has changed, Palairet, is that until recently, if a CC match started with less than 8 hours playing time left, it automatically became a single innings game. This is no longer the case.
Agreed with you on that point Frome Exile.
The Regulations changed with effect from the 2008 season in that the automatic forfeit of each side's first innings, in the circumstances to which you referred, no longer applies.
Perhaps that is what the commentators said when Mike was listening; I don't know, I didn't hear it myself.
The Regulations changed with effect from the 2008 season in that the automatic forfeit of each side's first innings, in the circumstances to which you referred, no longer applies.
Perhaps that is what the commentators said when Mike was listening; I don't know, I didn't hear it myself.
4 points behind and a game in hand with a match starting with the team in third starting Tuesday at home.
Anyone guess what we need to do to put this silverware in the cabinet?
Anyone guess what we need to do to put this silverware in the cabinet?
Well it may not be keeping with the spirit but i say if we can come out of Durham game with a 10-12 point draw then 2 weeks of rain affected draws across the country will see us pocket that silverware!
Second best but no less welcome WSM. Would love to win it with cricket wins though. If we lose though I can't see the scenario that gives us the title later.
Aren't they Laws ... ?
Unless a locally applied addition, in which case they are Rules?
Or perhaps Law 43 applies?
VtF.
Unless a locally applied addition, in which case they are Rules?
Or perhaps Law 43 applies?
VtF.
Law 43? Is that one that you have compiled yourself, Vic?
Or even regulations!
Or even regulations!
Is that so, VictheFish?
I must confess that when I umpired (and I am fully qualified) I tried to apply just that myself.
Sadly, it has always appeared to me that "Law 43" never appeared in the rule books of either Darrell Hair or 'Billy' Doctrove. Come to that, it wasn't in Mike Procter's book either.
"They are umpiring fundamentalists." (Imran Khan)
But then, that's another story isn't it?
Over and Out!
I must confess that when I umpired (and I am fully qualified) I tried to apply just that myself.
Sadly, it has always appeared to me that "Law 43" never appeared in the rule books of either Darrell Hair or 'Billy' Doctrove. Come to that, it wasn't in Mike Procter's book either.
"They are umpiring fundamentalists." (Imran Khan)
But then, that's another story isn't it?
Over and Out!
One thing is for sure, Kent are going for batting points, they are 112 for 0 off only 14 overs.
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Once again the weather has more influence on cricket than I ever will.
Kent match is a draw, I think that will put Kent in third place.
Updated Table:-
Nottinghamshire 14 - 156
Somerset 13 -152
Kent 14 - 147
Durham 13 - 145
Sussex 14 - 141
Hampshire 14 - 138
Lancashire 14 - 135
Yorkshire 14 - 135
Surrey 14 - 117
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Kent match is a draw, I think that will put Kent in third place.
Updated Table:-
Nottinghamshire 14 - 156
Somerset 13 -152
Kent 14 - 147
Durham 13 - 145
Sussex 14 - 141
Hampshire 14 - 138
Lancashire 14 - 135
Yorkshire 14 - 135
Surrey 14 - 117
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Kent v Surrey finished drawn - Kent 160-1 off 20 overs - thankfully their run-chase for points came to nought.
Kent 7 pts; Surrey: 7 pts.
Kent 7 pts; Surrey: 7 pts.
Amazingly there are now only 39 points between top and bottom and Surrey can still win the championship - with the arrival of the man from Pindi now imminent.
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I think it's more likely that the arrival of the Rawalpindi Tanker will scupper Surrey's survival hopes once and for all.
I know with which one of us I agree, SP, and it isn't me.
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