Are we missing our club Captain? It's impossible to say. For years supporters have said that Scot Davies was one of the best keepers we've ever had. This is appearing more and more like empty hype.
Joe Murphy, until his injury was performing really well and Ross Doohan has stepped up to the plate since Joe got crocked. Both offer better distribution and have managed to keep a number of clean sheets. Neither has assumed the club Captaincy, which in the case of Doohan is understandable. Instead Peter Clarke has been given the armband and has done a reasonable job. The only concern is that Clarke sometimes gets in the face of referees too much.
Make no mistake, Davies is a good shot stopper and seems to enjoy what is technically called 'game management'. More often than not he manages to get away with clutching the ball too his chest just long enough to ignore the opposition fans, but not so long that he gets cautioned for it. The frustration though is his distribution, which is often slow and rarely allows for a decent counter-attack. Now, it may be that our manager, and successive managers, have told Scotty to keep hold of the ball until everyone is forward. After all, players only do what the boss tells them to. We don't seem to like the idea of a counter attack. Look at how we set ourselves up at corners, we never leave a player forward and always have all 10 outfield players in or around our 18 yard box. It could be that Scotty's slowish distribution is a symptom of a more cautious approach across the team.
When Davies is fully fit I reckon Mellon is going to face an interesting decision. Who is his number 1 choice to put the keepers jersey on? For me, subject to Murphy being fit, I would go with Joe between the sticks and Doohan on the bench. I would also let either Clarke keep the armband or give it to Spearing. I can't think of a successful team where leadership has come from the fella between the sticks.
Then again, is our relatively poor start down to poor leadership on the pitch? Are we, in fact, missing Scotty far more than we realise? He must offer something as Captain otherwise successive managers wouldn't have given him the arm band. Time will tell.
Yes he has, but that does not mean the assertion that he is one of the best in recent years is beginning to look like "empty hype", as the article suggest. He was good and probably could still be again. The fact that two other players have shown competency, to me does not suddenly make Davies look like someone who does not justify the positivity afforded to him since he signed.
He was worthy of the past positives he got, as he played a key part in a league 2 promotion, just like he did for Fleetwood.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
I have my doubts whether he will come back with the Achilles issue and certainly it would seem now after Xmas
His contract is up in the summer so he has to fit by then and maybe goalkeeper coach role is looking more likely
bheadlad I have my doubts whether he will come back with the Achilles issue and certainly it would seem now after Xmas
His contract is up in the summer so he has to fit by then and maybe goalkeeper coach role is looking more likely
We already have a goalkeeping coach so unless he leaves no vacancy.We could have this situation at the end of the season Doohan will return to Celtic. Murphy will retire (he nearly did at the end of last season)that would just leave Davies who may or may not get a new contract depending on circumstances.
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bheadlad I have my doubts whether he will come back with the Achilles issue and certainly it would seem now after Xmas
His contract is up in the summer so he has to fit by then and maybe goalkeeper coach role is looking more likely
We already have a goalkeeping coach so unless he leaves no vacancy.We could have this situation at the end of the season Doohan will return to Celtic. Murphy will retire (he nearly did at the end of last season)that would just leave Davies who may or may not get a new contract depending on circumstances.
This will be the situation at the end of the season
Mickey needs to be careful with this. Doohan could be recalled and Murphy is at that age.... As much as I think Scotty is, and I've made it clear on here in the past, an accident waiting to happen, we cannot afford to wreck his confidence.
Not much between them, agree about Scotty's distribution being poor though. Given their ages, I'd have Murphy on the bench and Scotty as number one when fit, mainly cos he is our player
I definitely feel that Scotty is more prone to errors than the other two. His inevitable dismal crumple as he dives to reach a long shot is a pet peeve of mine. Doohan seems class at this level.
E L V I S 4 clean sheets 2019/20
Tranmere v Bolton 5-0
Tranmere v Wimbledon 1-0
Southend v Tranmere 0-0
Tranmere v Bristol 0-0
A keeper is only as good as the defence. And stats aren’t kept as to how many saves were made in games a goalkeeper conceded , despite the defence being poor. It’s a team game.
A keeper is only as good as the defence. And stats aren’t kept as to how many saves were made in games a goalkeeper conceded , despite the defence being poor. It’s a team game.
A lot of goals were conceded due to goalkeeping error. When Aaron Chapman stepped in as an emergency loan, we looked a lot stronger in goal. If applying your terms, Chapman shouldn't have been such a big improvement
Scotty is still a good goalkeeper IMO, but the credits accrued from the VNL and FL2 are disappearing quite quickly after some pretty shocking lapses since.
At his age still plenty of years left, just look at Joe, whether it's here or elsewhere.
The injury was bad and I doubt he will be back until the new year at the very earliest or, maybe March 2022.
I hope his recovery is progressing well and look forward to him being in contention for a place between the sticks.
Like any place, he can’t just walk back in, but I feel he is more than good enough to regain his place. As for captain, I’ve no issues what so ever with a keeper having the arm band.
Davies was IMO never as good as some suggested - terrible distribution and was getting worse in the L1 season and last season until his injury. To me he kept his place more because he was Club Captain rather than because he was better than Murphy.
If Doohan stays all season which may be one reason why he was preferred on Saturday to Murphy? I don't think he will play again for us other than maybe the Papa John's if we are still in it by the time he is fit.
As to GK Coach that would be so wrong - a L2 level keeper is not good enough to be a GK Coach if we want to improve.
Davies is a proven keeper with a substantial record. That said, selection should be on merit..Doohan has looked very competent and he perhaps commands the box rather better than both Davies or Murphy. The latter was playing very well before his injury and I cannot help feeling that Davies may return as a third choice. On the evidence of recent weeks Doohan would be a very worthwhile signing if Celtic decided that he was surplus to requirements, It takes time for goalkeepers to mature and he is likely to get even better. Murphy already has a coaching role and only sentiment could justify extending that role to Davies
Matt34 Keepers have the potential ot be good captains, because they can see a lot of the game.
I noticed in the Salford match throughout the first half when I could hear what he was shouting Joe Murphy was coaching his defenders. Telling them to hold the ball, to pass, to clear the ball, to make a tackle. That was definitely a captain's role. I'd not been aware of Scotty doing that.
DevonExile Davies is a proven keeper with a substantial record. That said, selection should be on merit..Doohan has looked very competent and he perhaps commands the box rather better than both Davies or Murphy. The latter was playing very well before his injury and I cannot help feeling that Davies may return as a third choice. On the evidence of recent weeks Doohan would be a very worthwhile signing if Celtic decided that he was surplus to requirements, It takes time for goalkeepers to mature and he is likely to get even better. Murphy already has a coaching role and only sentiment could justify extending that role to Davies
Didn't think Murphy was GK coach? Thought we had another guy.
Lee Jones is the goalkeeping coach played for various clubs and no, not the another Lee Jones scorer of the equaliser against Bolton stopping their 100 goals and 100 points promotion to the Premiership.
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