By Deadly Submarine
January 1 2016
A place for fans of both Tranmere Rovers and Macclesfield Town to discuss Saturday afternoon's upcoming match at Prenton Park......

Following Monday's 1-0 home win over Altrincham at Prenton Park, our match discussion thread returns once again as Rovers prepare to host Macclesfield Town on Saturday afternoon for what will be the second meeting of the sides in a week after Rovers' Boxing Day 2-1 win at Moss Rose. Tranmere are going into the game looking to build on the three match unbeaten run which has seen a draw and then two wins in their last three games.
Whether you are unable to make the game for any reason, or even if you are attending, this is the place to discuss all the pre-match build up including team line-up and score predictions, events during the match itself as well as all the post match fall-out and analysis. The thread is open to fans of both sides to discuss the events surrounding the game so if you haven't got a Message Forum accounts yet then why not sign up now?

Tranmere host Altrincham on Monday afternoon in the National League
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Quote:this happens to them season after season I'd rather have the pointshong kong rover
3 games off so far in the conference today including Braintree yet again, they must have terrible drainage at their ground. that means they will have 4 games in hand on us now.
Quote:WozzaQuote:this happens to them season after season I'd rather have the pointshong kong rover
3 games off so far in the conference today including Braintree yet again, they must have terrible drainage at their ground. that means they will have 4 games in hand on us now.
Quote:fand weren't to bad today. Kept with the team. Also don't think Mac went over the top with the time wasting. Seen much worse from us and other sidesWozza
Tranmere fan in peace we were poo first half but so were they yes they scored and that's the point of the game second half although laboured we had more than enough chances to even win it don't think Davies made a save all game like most normal fans I see no point in abusing players I also see no point in screaming at the opposition to get on with it as every team in every league does it
Quote:yes mate fans were ok today I was using it as a starting point about getting annoyed about time wasting although there was one guy who just kept on shouting sh*** all the time mainly second half which was bizarre as we played slightly better2 the moonQuote:fand weren't to bad today. Kept with the team. Also don't think Mac went over the top with the time wasting. Seen much worse from us and other sidesWozza
Tranmere fan in peace we were poo first half but so were they yes they scored and that's the point of the game second half although laboured we had more than enough chances to even win it don't think Davies made a save all game like most normal fans I see no point in abusing players I also see no point in screaming at the opposition to get on with it as every team in every league does it
Quote:Higgosboots
Let me guess: Best team, most possesion, loads of shots, critical decisions gone against, deserved more, they cheated: to big (illegal) used their strength (also illegal) pacey players (not fait) parked the bus (how dare they)
Quote:its not sour grapes mate but every time we went anywhere near your players they went down all the time with not much help but done what was needed and put the ball in the onion basket good luck for the rest of the season honours evenSteveo_macc
Good game from our perspective. Thought trannmere tried to bully their way with some dirty fouls but macc stood up to them. Could have easily been a draw with some close shots from yourselves. Overall macc battled well and deserved 3points. Good luck for rest of season
Quote:WozzaQuote:its not sour grapes mate but every time we went anywhere near your players they went down all the time with not much help but done what was needed and put the ball in the onion basket good luck for the rest of the season honours evenSteveo_macc
Good game from our perspective. Thought trannmere tried to bully their way with some dirty fouls but macc stood up to them. Could have easily been a draw with some close shots from yourselves. Overall macc battled well and deserved 3points. Good luck for rest of season
Quote:longtimerove
We simply can't hit a barn door. At the start of the season I was buzzing with Norwood, Mangan, Margetts and Stockton. I really thought we'd be smashing goals in left right and centre.
I spoke to Mangan at halftime an he said he's leaving on Monday back to Shrewsbury.
Just totally baffled with it all.
Quote:Deadly SubmarineQuote:Higgosboots
Let me guess: Best team, most possesion, loads of shots, critical decisions gone against, deserved more, they cheated: to big (illegal) used their strength (also illegal) pacey players (not fait) parked the bus (how dare they)
Pretty much spot on Higgo yes! Macclesfield seemed to be playing for the draw from the kick off and I think if I'd bothered to time it there wouldn't have been more than 2 minutes consecutively that one of their players wasn't on the floor!
If cheating, feigning, diving and timewasting is what gets a team into the play-offs as they now are then that is the reason Rovers approach to this Division needs to change. If you can't beat them join them I say!
As for us two penalty appeals, two wonder saves by their otherwise dodgy keeper and a goal unbelievably disallowed at the death would suggest Brabin's comments about Officials after our win against last week were perhaps a little justified.
As I said on another thread we probably needed to go two up front when the substitution was made and on a final point I thought Jenno did pretty well again today.
The way we had built up to Christmas with such poor form, I guess six points from nine is alright to an extent.
Quote:A happy Macc fan
easy 3 points. Happy new year. You lost. Get over it. Not as easy this as you thought it was
Quote:so like me you know are respective teams are going to still be in this league from a non bully big spuds fan although don't want to exept are position I'm a realist were in this league because we deserve itMacc Fan
Macclesfield supporter here in peace.
Agree that a win for us was probably undeserved but at least we play decent football and managed to score. Our keeper arguably kept us in it in the 2nd half and the disallowed goal for yourselves looked a harsh decision I must admit.
And about the diving, feigning injuries etc- two of our players that went down had to go off (our keeper and no 8) so they can't be accused of faking it.
Anyway, enjoyable trip across Cheshire, look forward to coming back next season and good luck in the meantime.
Quote:you sound like trfc fan disguise if not see you next seasonMacc Fan
I'm sorry to say it but your team has the capability of being play off contenders but the style of football you play makes you look a long way off that. Some questionable tactics/management decisions didn't help much- why take off one of your liveliest players and stick your top scorer out wide and then immediately let him leave the club? Brabin doesn't look up to it I'm afraid, and it's not the first time I've thought that.
From our point of view, very little chance of promotion any time soon unfortunately, so I expect to see you next season.
Quote:Wozza
Without Norwood goals we would be in a worse position
Quote:AndyMaseQuote:Wozza
Without Norwood goals we would be in a worse position
Didn't we say something similar about Max Power last season, yet we played better when he wasn't there.
Not saying we should drop Norwood but we need to stop playing a one track minded game which is look for Norwood and hope he scores.
I like him as a player but he can't be your main striker he misses to many 1on1, we need a goalscorer rather than a scorer of good goals, he will get 18-20 goals but we need the guy who scores 20-25 tap ins.
Quote:AndyMaseQuote:Wozza
Without Norwood goals we would be in a worse position
Didn't we say something similar about Max Power last season, yet we played better when he wasn't there.
Not saying we should drop Norwood but we need to stop playing a one track minded game which is look for Norwood and hope he scores.
I like him as a player but he can't be your main striker he misses to many 1on1, we need a goalscorer rather than a scorer of good goals, he will get 18-20 goals but we need the guy who scores 20-25 tap ins.
Quote:he probably misses the one on ones because he's f***** from all running he does on his own agree we with you we do seem easy to read as we don't seem to able to mix it up as the game goes on 👍WozzaQuote:AndyMaseQuote:Wozza
Without Norwood goals we would be in a worse position
Didn't we say something similar about Max Power last season, yet we played better when he wasn't there.
Not saying we should drop Norwood but we need to stop playing a one track minded game which is look for Norwood and hope he scores.
I like him as a player but he can't be your main striker he misses to many 1on1, we need a goalscorer rather than a scorer of good goals, he will get 18-20 goals but we need the guy who scores 20-25 tap ins.
Quote:WozzaQuote:he probably misses the one on ones because he's f***** from all running he does on his own agree we with you we do seem easy to read as we don't seem to able to mix it up as the game goes on 👍WozzaQuote:AndyMaseQuote:Wozza
Without Norwood goals we would be in a worse position
Didn't we say something similar about Max Power last season, yet we played better when he wasn't there.
Not saying we should drop Norwood but we need to stop playing a one track minded game which is look for Norwood and hope he scores.
I like him as a player but he can't be your main striker he misses to many 1on1, we need a goalscorer rather than a scorer of good goals, he will get 18-20 goals but we need the guy who scores 20-25 tap ins.
Quote:hong kong rover
ive just been studying the full conference table with both home and away standings for each team. our away form isn't too bad, in fact if a couple of our away draws had been victories then it would be pretty decent and on a par with the top sides. its these 6 home defeats that are really costing us [ gateshead seem to be suffering the same as us. ] we've only lost 3 away so why have we lost 6 at home?
Quote:Deadly SubmarineQuote:hong kong rover
ive just been studying the full conference table with both home and away standings for each team. our away form isn't too bad, in fact if a couple of our away draws had been victories then it would be pretty decent and on a par with the top sides. its these 6 home defeats that are really costing us [ gateshead seem to be suffering the same as us. ] we've only lost 3 away so why have we lost 6 at home?
I've been told the reason for this but am bound to bashed for saying it so it's staying in my head HKR!
Quote:Hoots MonQuote:AndyMaseQuote:Wozza
Without Norwood goals we would be in a worse position
Didn't we say something similar about Max Power last season, yet we played better when he wasn't there.
Not saying we should drop Norwood but we need to stop playing a one track minded game which is look for Norwood and hope he scores.
I like him as a player but he can't be your main striker he misses to many 1on1, we need a goalscorer rather than a scorer of good goals, he will get 18-20 goals but we need the guy who scores 20-25 tap ins.
He IS by a long way our best and main striker-the fact that he misses 1on1's is not relevant.Without his efforts,we'd be much lower down the league.
On Match of the Day tonight there was a stat which showed the top 3 Premier league all time goalscorers. In third place was Andy Cole who also regularly got derided for the large number of chances he missed-but there were plenty he didn't miss[187 IIRC]and he was always in position for these chances.
Quote:Deadly SubmarineQuote:hong kong rover
ive just been studying the full conference table with both home and away standings for each team. our away form isn't too bad, in fact if a couple of our away draws had been victories then it would be pretty decent and on a par with the top sides. its these 6 home defeats that are really costing us [ gateshead seem to be suffering the same as us. ] we've only lost 3 away so why have we lost 6 at home?
I've been told the reason for this but am bound to bashed for saying it so it's staying in my head HKR!
Quote:bigmart
dear lord its all the fans fault again no doubt, was it the fans who moved norwood out wide instead of playing 2 up front with Stockton? is it the fans fault weve loos 9 out of the last 17 games?
Quote:HiggosbootsQuote:A happy Macc fan
easy 3 points. Happy new year. You lost. Get over it. Not as easy this as you thought it was
The league is a joke, their are no strong sides, as the mighty Cheltenham are showing everyone because they haven't been brilliant, but what they do have is a quality manager, just makes our jokes even worse IMO. TBF I thought you'd batter us, Altiricham should have.
Quote:hong kong roverQuote:HiggosbootsQuote:A happy Macc fan
easy 3 points. Happy new year. You lost. Get over it. Not as easy this as you thought it was
The league is a joke, their are no strong sides, as the mighty Cheltenham are showing everyone because they haven't been brilliant, but what they do have is a quality manager, just makes our jokes even worse IMO. TBF I thought you'd batter us, Altiricham should have.
Johnson is a quality manager in the lower leagues and whenever I see him being interviewed he always seems relaxed, has a smile on his face, talks sense, takes things in his stride, never waffles on about the science of football, and often has a joke. it must rub off on his players too, reckon they enjoy playing for him.
Quote:HiggosbootsQuote:A happy Macc fan
easy 3 points. Happy new year. You lost. Get over it. Not as easy this as you thought it was
The league is a joke, their are no strong sides, as the mighty Cheltenham are showing everyone because they haven't been brilliant, but what they do have is a quality manager, just makes our jokes even worse IMO. TBF I thought you'd batter us, Altiricham should have.
Quote:HiggosbootsQuote:bigmart
dear lord its all the fans fault again no doubt, was it the fans who moved norwood out wide instead of playing 2 up front with Stockton? is it the fans fault weve loos 9 out of the last 17 games?
Yep!
Quote:Is it because GB has'nt got a clue how to break down the other teams defenceDeadly SubmarineQuote:hong kong rover
ive just been studying the full conference table with both home and away standings for each team. our away form isn't too bad, in fact if a couple of our away draws had been victories then it would be pretty decent and on a par with the top sides. its these 6 home defeats that are really costing us [ gateshead seem to be suffering the same as us. ] we've only lost 3 away so why have we lost 6 at home?
I've been told the reason for this but am bound to bashed for saying it so it's staying in my head HKR!
Quote:Phil65Quote:HiggosbootsQuote:bigmart
dear lord its all the fans fault again no doubt, was it the fans who moved norwood out wide instead of playing 2 up front with Stockton? is it the fans fault weve loos 9 out of the last 17 games?
Yep!
Obviously we need to play behind closed doors then we'd be top of the league! Simples!
Quote:Phil65Quote:HiggosbootsQuote:bigmart
dear lord its all the fans fault again no doubt, was it the fans who moved norwood out wide instead of playing 2 up front with Stockton? is it the fans fault weve loos 9 out of the last 17 games?
Yep!
Obviously we need to play behind closed doors then we'd be top of the league! Simples!
Quote:Deadly SubmarineQuote:Phil65Quote:HiggosbootsQuote:bigmart
dear lord its all the fans fault again no doubt, was it the fans who moved norwood out wide instead of playing 2 up front with Stockton? is it the fans fault weve loos 9 out of the last 17 games?
Yep!
Obviously we need to play behind closed doors then we'd be top of the league! Simples!
It might have a better effect than some people may think yeah!
Quote:How did you know he was a Tranmere fan, was he abusing Luke Skywalker when he got caught?😂HiggosbootsQuote:Deadly SubmarineQuote:Phil65Quote:HiggosbootsQuote:bigmart
dear lord its all the fans fault again no doubt, was it the fans who moved norwood out wide instead of playing 2 up front with Stockton? is it the fans fault weve loos 9 out of the last 17 games?
Yep!
Obviously we need to play behind closed doors then we'd be top of the league! Simples!
It might have a better effect than some people may think yeah!
I noticed a Rovers supporter at the Pictures watching starwars, it was his fault the popcorn ran out!
Quote:tranmerepete
That's funny because on Saturday I heard none stop support singing even after the goal. Even clapped off the pitch but we still got beat but let's blame the fans good one. Nothing to do with the poor subs and 1 upfront......
Quote:bigmartQuote:tranmerepete
That's funny because on Saturday I heard none stop support singing even after the goal. Even clapped off the pitch but we still got beat but let's blame the fans good one. Nothing to do with the poor subs and 1 upfront......
and when a second striker was brought on our only real goal threat was shifted out wide but that was the fans fault no doubt
Quote:Phil65
Rumour has it that our fan base in Syria has also triggered some minor trouble too!
Quote:Thats what we need to do,cheatPhil65
Post from Macclesfield forum. Make of it what you will:
Enjoyed that.
A fantastic team performance with some individual brilliance thrown in.
Tranmere are a good side made up of athletes on very good money. This time we didn't let them bully us, Askey told the lads to hit the deck everytime they put in a wreckless challenge and it worked. We destroyed the flow of the game and won.
Wasn't too worried about them equalising, Norwood has about 5 clear cut scoring chances over the course of the last two games and doesn't look like he could hit the net if his life depended on it.
Special mentions to Branagan, Pilkinton, Fitz and Sampson.
Quote:Old RoverQuote:Thats what we need to do,cheatPhil65
Post from Macclesfield forum. Make of it what you will:
Enjoyed that.
A fantastic team performance with some individual brilliance thrown in.
Tranmere are a good side made up of athletes on very good money. This time we didn't let them bully us, Askey told the lads to hit the deck everytime they put in a wreckless challenge and it worked. We destroyed the flow of the game and won.
Wasn't too worried about them equalising, Norwood has about 5 clear cut scoring chances over the course of the last two games and doesn't look like he could hit the net if his life depended on it.
Special mentions to Branagan, Pilkinton, Fitz and Sampson.
Quote:Old Rover
Thats what we need to do,cheat
Quote:It was a tongue in cheek commentMatt34Quote:Old Rover
Thats what we need to do,cheat
Then if someone got sent off and it cost Tranmere some points, people would moan, but then it would be double standards for some, where it's not okay for someone like Kabba to do it against Tranmere, but okay when a Tranmere player does it.
Quote:Deadly Submarine
To think someone had a go at me and a couple of others for calling Macclesfield cheats by saying it was sour grapes on our part when it was actually their tactic all along it seems!
I think we do need to change to being more dirty and physical to be honest. Macclesfield and Eastleigh have proved it can get you into the Top 5.
Quote:Matt34Quote:Old Rover
Thats what we need to do,cheat
Then if someone got sent off and it cost Tranmere some points, people would moan, but then it would be double standards for some, where it's not okay for someone like Kabba to do it against Tranmere, but okay when a Tranmere player does it.
Quote:aktrfcQuote:Matt34Quote:Old Rover
Thats what we need to do,cheat
Then if someone got sent off and it cost Tranmere some points, people would moan, but then it would be double standards for some, where it's not okay for someone like Kabba to do it against Tranmere, but okay when a Tranmere player does it.
how could it have cost us points, we didn't get any points, that is the point.
It's pointless trying to explain to ............. Quote:Hoots MonQuote:Deadly Submarine
To think someone had a go at me and a couple of others for calling Macclesfield cheats by saying it was sour grapes on our part when it was actually their tactic all along it seems!
I think we do need to change to being more dirty and physical to be honest. Macclesfield and Eastleigh have proved it can get you into the Top 5.
If you're referring to me in your first paragraph Deadly,I have repeated my post below.I see no reason to change my comment.
''I agree with you Deadly that they went down and rolled over a lot in the first half,BUT the two players who acted injured the most-the keeper and the number 8 ,WERE actually substituted. When the keeper was eventually helped down the tunnel,he did not look in a good way.Every team does their share of timewasting at the appropriate time.''
Quote:Phil65Quote:Hoots MonQuote:Deadly Submarine
To think someone had a go at me and a couple of others for calling Macclesfield cheats by saying it was sour grapes on our part when it was actually their tactic all along it seems!
I think we do need to change to being more dirty and physical to be honest. Macclesfield and Eastleigh have proved it can get you into the Top 5.
If you're referring to me in your first paragraph Deadly,I have repeated my post below.I see no reason to change my comment.
''I agree with you Deadly that they went down and rolled over a lot in the first half,BUT the two players who acted injured the most-the keeper and the number 8 ,WERE actually substituted. When the keeper was eventually helped down the tunnel,he did not look in a good way.Every team does their share of timewasting at the appropriate time.''
Have to defend Deadly on this one. From my vantage point in the Town Paddock there were other players too who tried to con the ref. Funny really, they didn't reproduce these tactics in the second half as I guess it was even a little too embarrassing for their management team to continue with. We shouldn't be making excuses for any kind of cheating or time wasting and it would be massively disappointing if we did revert to this. Saying every team does it doesn't excuse it and I wish officials at least added the appropriate amount of time on, unlike the first half. Cheats do seem to prosper.
Quote:Hoots MonQuote:Phil65Quote:Hoots MonQuote:Deadly Submarine
To think someone had a go at me and a couple of others for calling Macclesfield cheats by saying it was sour grapes on our part when it was actually their tactic all along it seems!
I think we do need to change to being more dirty and physical to be honest. Macclesfield and Eastleigh have proved it can get you into the Top 5.
If you're referring to me in your first paragraph Deadly,I have repeated my post below.I see no reason to change my comment.
''I agree with you Deadly that they went down and rolled over a lot in the first half,BUT the two players who acted injured the most-the keeper and the number 8 ,WERE actually substituted. When the keeper was eventually helped down the tunnel,he did not look in a good way.Every team does their share of timewasting at the appropriate time.''
Have to defend Deadly on this one. From my vantage point in the Town Paddock there were other players too who tried to con the ref. Funny really, they didn't reproduce these tactics in the second half as I guess it was even a little too embarrassing for their management team to continue with. We shouldn't be making excuses for any kind of cheating or time wasting and it would be massively disappointing if we did revert to this. Saying every team does it doesn't excuse it and I wish officials at least added the appropriate amount of time on, unlike the first half. Cheats do seem to prosper.
I said the ''two players who acted injured the most'' not the only two.The reason they didn't do it in the second half was that they went off injured in the first half.
Also to compare the way Macclesfield played to the way Eastleigh played is ludicrous.
Quote:aktrfcQuote:Matt34Quote:Old Rover
Thats what we need to do,cheat
Then if someone got sent off and it cost Tranmere some points, people would moan, but then it would be double standards for some, where it's not okay for someone like Kabba to do it against Tranmere, but okay when a Tranmere player does it.
how could it have cost us points, we didn't get any points, that is the point.
