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Match Discussion: Dagenham & Redbridge (Home)
By Deadly Submarine
March 5 2015
A place for fans of both Rovers and Dagenham & Redbridge to discuss Saturday afternoon's upcoming match at Prenton Park as Rovers look to bounce back from three straight League defeats...
With the 2014/15 League Two season now well into it's final third, our match discussion thread returns once again for Tranmere's home game as fellow League Two strugglers Dagenham & Redbridge travel to Prenton Park. Dagenham are currently six points clear of the relegation zone but a defeat to Rovers would likely drag them back towards trouble as the season begins to draw to a close.
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Discussion started by Total Tranmere (IP Logged), 05/03/2015 18:17
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No matter the formation, tactics are important, but the will to win is foremost for this huge game.
Thompson with Ihewiki(?) Regardless of 3 or4 at the back must start.
The midfield first name on the team sheet must be Laird,
Kayode up front, then pick the team around this spine.
We have to take hold of the game and compete with them.
Anything other than this we will get beat (again!)
It's time for the real fighting Tranmere Rovers to stand up.
Thompson with Ihewiki(?) Regardless of 3 or4 at the back must start.
The midfield first name on the team sheet must be Laird,
Kayode up front, then pick the team around this spine.
We have to take hold of the game and compete with them.
Anything other than this we will get beat (again!)
It's time for the real fighting Tranmere Rovers to stand up.
Wouldn't play Odejayi he doesn't score and do enough and gives away too many needless fouls.
think we will draw 1 1 with the goal from a loan player
think we will draw 1 1 with the goal from a loan player
Quote:bigmart
think we will draw 1 1 with the goal from a loan player
Which one?! One of the current loan players or a new one he brings in on Saturday morning!! (That's a joke by the way before everyone jumps on me!)
Glad to see I am the first to say "This is a Must win Game".
With our record against fellow strugglers I am just hoping that Jamie Cureton doesn't have one of his scoring days and put us further in the brown stuff.
With our record against fellow strugglers I am just hoping that Jamie Cureton doesn't have one of his scoring days and put us further in the brown stuff.
That would be 39 yr old Jamie Cureton, banging in 13 goals this season. Take note Mr Adams, quality does not go with age, you adapt, time to bring in Jason to centre stage to add some culture to this sorry excuse of a midfield.
1-1. Another lacklustre display with the goal coming from Odejayi. How I hope for 3 points though. Please do not let Fenelon bang one in for D&R.
I can see Fenelon scoring and Labidie as most former players do against us, so we will lose 2-1
a 1-1 draw, were they will be the better side by a mile, thus increasing the doom and gloom
Dagenham to be fair are probably the worst side I've seen us play this season (the only team I haven't seen at all are Accrington as I missed both the home and away games) - hence our 1-0 win down there so fingers crossed!
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i can see a big change in attitude and a massive 3-0 win! :-)
I hope your right and i`d like to know what you have based it on
If we play 4-5-1 with Jennison and Rory back from injury then I can see us taking all 3 points, our centre backs are not good enough to play just 3 at the back.
Also need to sort out left back.
A positive 2-0 for me.
Also need to sort out left back.
A positive 2-0 for me.
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i can see a big change in attitude and a massive 3-0 win! :-)
I hope your right and i`d like to know what you have based it on
I am betting they have been rollocked by Manager and Chairman this week...
Quote:TranmereFanQuote:will_huntingQuote:TranmereFan
i can see a big change in attitude and a massive 3-0 win! :-)
I hope your right and i`d like to know what you have based it on
I am betting they have been rollocked by Manager and Chairman this week...
they have already had a few rolockings from mickey, they were in a 8.00AM on sunday morning and then produced that garbage on Tuesday night, there immune to rolockings, they don`t care, that`s why i think weve had it, however if the chairman has got involved maybe........no, there gobs****s, they wont care
Quote:Deadly SubmarineQuote:bigmart
think we will draw 1 1 with the goal from a loan player
Which one?! One of the current loan players or a new one he brings in on Saturday morning!! (That's a joke by the way before everyone jumps on me!)
one of the current loans
Play Fon Willliams, Holmes, Donnelly and a load of the youth and see how the youth graft for the team with a few older potentially confidence boosting players.
Then have a few others like Dugdale and Koumas on the bench just in case the remote possibility of being 1 down with 20 minutes left occurs.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
Then have a few others like Dugdale and Koumas on the bench just in case the remote possibility of being 1 down with 20 minutes left occurs.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
well im bringin my little girle . hopin for a good result . lets play ugley get in there faces. an kick lumps out of em . no more nice rovers lets get mean 2/0 win please
true just want some fire in there bellies . to see they want it . passion . not the cant be botherd they seem to always play like 3pts is a must
Last game saw poor tactics and subs from the top and no spirit on the pitch other than Danny and Laird so surely one or hopefully both of these areas will improve ?
well as we say we have to have a leader with some balls. who will tell em if its not good . an praisem too. we need to see the manager show some passion . on the side lines wich we dont always see . come on rovers
KOUMAS IS STARTING. OUR PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. Mind you, this is when he has a stinker.
Micky said recently it's gonna go down to the wire. I disagree I think we will be down with a couple of games to go!!!
I have to disagree there. I think Hartlepool will be THAT team, and whether we stay up or not will be close. Very close.
Today is the day that shattered my belief we would be ok! Looking at the fixtures to come I can only see a couple of draws at best!
we are now back to where edwards left off, i did say adams would not get us out of this mess, we where a disgrace today, every player need putting down and binned off, adams needs to go right now, useless manager always has been, max power rubbish, dugdale rubbish, jennings rubbish, huggil rubbish, myre williams rubbish, fonners rubbish, etc, apart from koumas, homles and gardener every single player should be kicked up the backside
Why do we have to wait until we are 3-1 down and 20 odd minutes left to show any bottle or fight.
IMO 3 gifts again today, from a combination of the defence and OFW.
I am trying to remain positive but, such basic errors and now 5 defeats in last 6.
Micky left Port Vale after 6 straight defeats.
No longer very onwards and upwards I'am afraid.
IMO 3 gifts again today, from a combination of the defence and OFW.
I am trying to remain positive but, such basic errors and now 5 defeats in last 6.
Micky left Port Vale after 6 straight defeats.
No longer very onwards and upwards I'am afraid.
The whole team where rubbish including Koumas Homles and Gardener Adams has lost the plot.
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we are now back to where edwards left off, i did say adams would not get us out of this mess, we where a disgrace today, every player need putting down and binned off, adams needs to go right now, useless manager always has been, max power rubbish, dugdale rubbish, jennings rubbish, huggil rubbish, myre williams rubbish, fonners rubbish, etc, apart from koumas, homles and gardener every single player should be kicked up the backside
Nail well and truely hit on the head! Today we saw the difference between a bit of quality in midfield and that of the likes of power who are totally ineffective yet are on the team sheet weeek in week out. I would rather see Hume in his place than upfront trying to win long balls against 6 5" defenders.
That was non league football at best and that is where we are going.
Adams is utterly clueless and the recruitment of new loan players each week has shown his desperation and how panicked he is! I would rather have the hot dog woman in charge. Some may say its too late to get rid but if we don't then I believe we are down. As bad as some of the players performed the tactics of the manager and his disruption to the side have got us back into this complete mess.
Quite........quite pathetic.
Spine of the cocyx of the team weak = Power anaonymous for the vast majority of the game, aside from his pointing and instructing.
Dugdale, again so weak, slow and indecisive.
Spot the difference, their defenders attacked every ball, and every second ball - and if they won it launched it downfield. They didn't play football in their half, just looked to play in our half.
Cureton - 37/8? yet still ran the legs off our defenders.
POsitive - Fonners shouting at his defenders, he could yet marshall the defence - pity he only does it after we conceed.
Stats suggest that Dagenham only had three shots on target!
Spine of the cocyx of the team weak = Power anaonymous for the vast majority of the game, aside from his pointing and instructing.
Dugdale, again so weak, slow and indecisive.
Spot the difference, their defenders attacked every ball, and every second ball - and if they won it launched it downfield. They didn't play football in their half, just looked to play in our half.
Cureton - 37/8? yet still ran the legs off our defenders.
POsitive - Fonners shouting at his defenders, he could yet marshall the defence - pity he only does it after we conceed.
Stats suggest that Dagenham only had three shots on target!
Wow I really didn't expect a performance like that, I honestly thought we would play like it was a cup final and every single ball was more important than the previous one, it's horrible because there is nothing we can do about it other than sit and watch it unfold, I am starting to worry now I think I was blocking it out before this game but it's starting to sink in now
I was unable to make the game today, thankfully I am not stuck on the M6 heading back south after that dismal result. What was the atmosphere like inside the ground, I presume plenty of stick was given out both to MA and the players. Was there any reaction what so ever or does it just seem no one cares?
Quote:Davidben
Fonners needs to be dropped he is absolutely rubbish.
1st goal was ball over top our centre halves were outpaced by a 39 year old striker, 2nd was a quality finsh third was poor defending including Donnelly pass ball straight to the scorer cant really blame fon for them goals
The third goal was a bad Dugdale clearance straight to their player.All three of their goals were quality finishes after varying degrees of poor defending.
It should also be borne in mind that Cureton missed two possibly three[by his standards] sitters. The goal he scored was probably the hardest chance of them all.
It should also be borne in mind that Cureton missed two possibly three[by his standards] sitters. The goal he scored was probably the hardest chance of them all.
Whilst Fonners wasn't the only below par performer today by any means. as the goalkeeper their mistakes are noticed the most.
Today he was all over the place, his starting position for the first goal was the reason he didn't get there first, despite Dugdale and Thompson missing the through ball. Most goalkeepers act as sweepers by pushing up. Certainly, in the few games Brezovan has played he does exactly that.
His shot stopping ability didn't help because his angles were all wrong, again he was almost on his goal line. There appeared to be an exchange between him and timmins after the second goal.
No use being the best shot stopper in the league when you are so poor at nearly all the basics of goalkeeping.
As usual, he was berating the defence after the event and gives virtually no help throughout the game apart from that annoying Up!! Up!! he continually shouts.
Sorry Fonner's rant again but, I honestly believe he is fundamental part of the problem.
Today he was all over the place, his starting position for the first goal was the reason he didn't get there first, despite Dugdale and Thompson missing the through ball. Most goalkeepers act as sweepers by pushing up. Certainly, in the few games Brezovan has played he does exactly that.
His shot stopping ability didn't help because his angles were all wrong, again he was almost on his goal line. There appeared to be an exchange between him and timmins after the second goal.
No use being the best shot stopper in the league when you are so poor at nearly all the basics of goalkeeping.
As usual, he was berating the defence after the event and gives virtually no help throughout the game apart from that annoying Up!! Up!! he continually shouts.
Sorry Fonner's rant again but, I honestly believe he is fundamental part of the problem.
Quote:Davidben
Fonners was poor today.
Our least bad two players were Gardner and Donacien.
Quote:PeteTRFC
He made too many changes to the starting 11 today.
And again some baffling selections and non selections.
Gardner scored, which might help his confidence and at least there was a bit of guts near the end with a second goal, but Dagenham are not exactly world-beaters and this should have been a game that absolutely required winning.
At least getting a quick equaliser, showed some kind of reaction and the possibility of a fight back, but the team let themselves down to an extent and that second felt more like a consolation than any attempt to restore some pride.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
At least getting a quick equaliser, showed some kind of reaction and the possibility of a fight back, but the team let themselves down to an extent and that second felt more like a consolation than any attempt to restore some pride.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
I'am not sure about the too many changes argument.
I lot of posters were asking for Koumas back and until he pulled his hamstring he did well IMO.
Doncien was always going to start once he resigned, as was Taylor and Rory if fit.
Puzzled about Ihiekwe though.
I lot of posters were asking for Koumas back and until he pulled his hamstring he did well IMO.
Doncien was always going to start once he resigned, as was Taylor and Rory if fit.
Puzzled about Ihiekwe though.
Rory is totally wasted stuck on the wing.
Also,Adams dropped the wrong midfielder[Laird] to include Koumas
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Also,Adams dropped the wrong midfielder[Laird] to include Koumas
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015:03:07:20:30:34 by Hoots Mon.
Funny isn't it - we 'put the opposition defence under an onslaught' no real sign of them buckling.
Yet put our defence under that pressure, and................well we all know the answer don't we!
Yet put our defence under that pressure, and................well we all know the answer don't we!
Bring back Edwards , he ain't doing nothing after being binned twice this season !
A lot is being said about RE's squad not having been good enough, when MA first came in he slaughtered the lack of effort & quality & got them working hard consequently we went on a good run, he has now "improved" the squad & we are back to lack of effort & still have poor players. Stick with A 1st 11 & get them battling & hope for the results.
Quote:Hoots Mon
The third goal was a bad Dugdale clearance straight to their player.All three of their goals were quality finishes after varying degrees of poor defending.
It should also be borne in mind that Cureton missed two possibly three[by his standards] sitters. The goal he scored was probably the hardest chance of them all.
dugdales clearance was poor but went to Donnelly he then passed it straight to their player who then scored.
Stew, as for bringing back Edwards don't make me laugh hes no manager and never will be, we need a new manager but it certainly isn't edwards
We ain't going to get a new manager.. Adams has to pick a formation and first 11 players and stick with them...Too much tinkering has taken us backwards..In my opinion ! And I have mentioned it before ..Koumas should be first name on the team sheet and build team around him..Hume is a far better opinion than Hugill and I am baffled why he hasn't played more..In Koumas and Hume we have our most gifted and creative players and yet Adams seems reluctant to play them...Crazy..Ikeweke should be playing...were was he yesterday..and I agree Gardner look a good prospect...For the captain Jennings form of late has been dreadful and of the countless loaners brought in none play midfield which again is baffling..We are still alive and still have 11 games left in which to save our beloved club from the abyss..Lets hope Adams sees the light before we fall thought the trapdoor and the darkness that will follow..!!
Johno, Koumas is now injured and likely to be out for several weeks and Hume isn't fit
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Johno, Koumas is now injured and likely to be out for several weeks and Hume isn't fit
Not sure how bad Koumas injury is..hopefully back on Saturday...If Hume isn't fit why is he on the bench...He looked fit enough in pre match warm up and in my opinion should be in starting 11 next week...He cannot be any worse than what we saw yesterday..!!!
To be fair re the above, looked like Koumas was trying to play on ...and run it off...........sensible substitution......and one which Adams seemed desperate to make, with no apparent delay in waiting to find out the extent of the injury.
Disappointing, given that as expected, Koumas had been playing more perceptive football, holding on to the ball, and looking up for the pass - allowing Donnelly and Donacien to play well for the start of the game.
Had he been on that form, and played for the last 20 minutes against Portsmouth and Wycombe, who Knows what might have been.
I just get the impression, that Adams was not disappointed when he was injured.
Any news as to why Thompson was substituted, or Iheweke was not in the squad?
Money being spent on McGahey looks a complete waste I would suggest.
Disappointing, given that as expected, Koumas had been playing more perceptive football, holding on to the ball, and looking up for the pass - allowing Donnelly and Donacien to play well for the start of the game.
Had he been on that form, and played for the last 20 minutes against Portsmouth and Wycombe, who Knows what might have been.
I just get the impression, that Adams was not disappointed when he was injured.
Any news as to why Thompson was substituted, or Iheweke was not in the squad?
Money being spent on McGahey looks a complete waste I would suggest.
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Johno, Koumas is now injured and likely to be out for several weeks and Hume isn't fit
Not sure how bad Koumas injury is..hopefully back on Saturday...If Hume isn't fit why is he on the bench...He looked fit enough in pre match warm up and in my opinion should be in starting 11 next week...He cannot be any worse than what we saw yesterday..!!!
was hamstring would think likely to be several weeks out, Hume is too heavy and isn't ready too start.
Why was Hume brought back? It is crazy to recruit players who are unfit in this situation. It would have been far better to recruit a battling centre-midfield player.
I think that Hume was brought back on the basis that he could probably recover any lost fitness and was player of the league in the IPL, which included a few quality names like Trezeguet and Capdevila, so there was the perception he was good in a league that in terms of most players was comparable to league 2 possibly league 1.
However until Adams picks a settled setup on the pitch, any positive influence players like Hume might be able to exert on performances, will be hindered, because the same problem is occurring for some of the other players and playing your most prolific striker in wide areas, makes no sense.
It would be like Liverpool playing Sturridge on the wing and wondering why his form dropped to less than 10 a season average form.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
However until Adams picks a settled setup on the pitch, any positive influence players like Hume might be able to exert on performances, will be hindered, because the same problem is occurring for some of the other players and playing your most prolific striker in wide areas, makes no sense.
It would be like Liverpool playing Sturridge on the wing and wondering why his form dropped to less than 10 a season average form.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
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