Greene King IPA Championship final, London Welsh v Bristol Rugby, Wednesday May 28th, KO 19:45
After a long and thoroughly entertaining season, two games over the course of the next eight days will determine whether it is London Welsh or Bristol Rugby who win the Greene King IPA Championship title - and with it promotion back to the Aviva Premiership.
Both have graced the top flight before, Bristol for many years with distinction until their fall five years ago while Welsh have had a brief taste, in 2012/13, and want more.
As the top two sides from the regular season, few people would dispute that Bristol, the best attacking side in the competition, and London Welsh, who boast the best defence, are fitting finalists.
History points to a tight first leg, at the Kassam Stadium, kick-off 19:45pm live on Sky Sports, with tries few and far between in three of the four previous finals. International referee Wayne Barnes will officiate proceedings in Oxford.
The inaugural final between champions Exeter and Bristol in 2009/10 produced a try-less first leg, with three penalties from the boot of Gareth Steenson to two from Adrian Jarvis handing the Chiefs the initiative.
Worcester managed to cross Cornish Pirates' line twice in winning 21-12 in the first leg at the Mennaye Field before going on to finish the job a week later in a more expansive encounter at Sixways.
London Welsh bucked the trend in the third Championship final away to Cornish Pirates, coming away from the Duchy with a 16-point advantage after outscoring their hosts four tries to three.
Last year's showpiece between Bedford Blues and Newcastle was an altogether cagier affair first up, with all the points in an 18-9 win for the Falcons coming from kicks at goal. Jimmy Gopperth was on target with six penalties while Myles Dorrian converted two and Jake Sharp a third for the Blues.
In each of the last three finals, the away side has won the first leg and gone on to win the title.
London Welsh: 15. Seb Stegmann, 14. Rhys Crane, 13. Tom May (C), 12. Seb Jewell 11. Nick Scott, 10. Gordon Ross, 9. Chris Cook 1. Nathan Trevett, 2. Nathan Morris, 3. Peter Edwards, 4. Will Spencer 5, Matt Corker, 6. Peter Browne, 7. Carl Kirwan, 8. Daniel Browne.
Replacements: 16. Nathan Vella, 17. Tom Bristow, 18. James Tideswell, 19. Ben West 20. Richard Thorpe, 21, Rob Lewis, 22. Alan Awcock.
Bristol Jack Wallace; George Watkins, Jack Tovey, Ben Mosses Andy Short; Nicky Robinson, Luke Baldwin Kyle Traynor, Ross Johnston, Jason Hobson, Ben Glynn Glen Townson, Nick Koster, Marco Mama, Ryan Jones (c).
Replacements: Rhys Lawrence, James Hall, Mitch Eadie, Ben Skirving Ruki Tipuna, Adrian Jarvis, Adam Hughes.
2011/12 Cornish Pirates 21 London Welsh 37 London Welsh 29 Cornish Pirates 20
2012/13 Bedford Blues 9 Newcastle Falcons 18 Newcastle Falcons 31 Bedford Blues 24
2013/14 Greene King IPA Championship final London Welsh v Bristol Rugby, Wednesday May 28, KO 1945 Bristol Rugby v London Welsh, Wednesday June 4, KO 1945
Both fixtures will be broadcast live on Sky Sports HD
Not sure that is the entire story. If you remember, James was injured while playing for us and had therefore struggled to make much of an impact. Given that we knew that budgets were smaller we must have been faced with a difficult decision. Take a punt and carry on paying the wages of someone who had barely arrived - despite also having to pay for long-termers like Kyle, Max, etc., or let him go.
I agree it was a shame to see him go - but we have to draw the line somewhere. So, despite hindsight being a wonderful thing, I think it was the right decision.
He was probably offered a contract, BUT without payment, just like some of the others who are stated to be "leaving the club", having not agreed a contract!!
I think we're going round in circles. The message from the club wasn't very ambiguous. Some players were offered contracts that, for one reason or another, were not agreed. Those players left the club. Some got better offers. Some have destinations unknown. No mysteries. No insider knowledge needed.
Despite going behind to an early Bristol try London Welsh produced a very polished performance to take a 19 point lead into the 2nd leg.
Welsh had a lot of dominance at the set piece and won the breakdown battle to put Bristol into a strangle hold which they couldn't get out of.
The pressure is now really back on Bristol and on that performance they don't have the pack to overcome a superior Welsh side.
Bristol lost Ryan Jones with what looked like a bad injury and also their scrum half Baldwin to make it a very disappointing night for them.
Sancreed, it's 27 - 8 at half time! lol Pedantic git aren't I? An old adage but the next score is crucial, LW will be looking for penalties or drop goals I reckon but if Bris get an early try - game on. However I feel another Exeter coming on with LW winning the second half too! Shame, I thought it would be closer than this but when a bubble bursts for Bristol it goes BANG!
Bristol looked like a team who had just met each other on the coach on the way to London.Not got a clue what there game plan was in the first half,marginally better in the 2nd half but a massive hill to climb.
Bristol looked like a team who had just met each other on the coach on the way to London.Not got a clue what there game plan was in the first half,marginally better in the 2nd half but a massive hill to climb.
Cant believe i am actually agreeing with something POSTS has posted
I can't see it. Mr Robinson is a manager who's been found wanting in various roles. He put together one of the most expensive squads this league has ever seen and then lost several games - when he should have lost none. Our relatively inexperienced team beat them twice.
Sadly for Bris, when the chips are down, I'm afraid that Mr Robinson is just not up to the job. London Welsh are the real deal. A proper team without the big names. I reckon they will complete the job.
I hope Bristol prevail - the DOR might not deserve it but their supporters do. They turned up at Oxford in big numbers and the Mem is sold out for next week. Let's hope for a dry evening and maybe the players will give the fans what they truly deserve!
I agree about the fans - and I don't really care which one goes up - although Bris at the Mennaye brings in more cash for us. I just cannot see Mr Robinson turning this one around.
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