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TEAM REPRESENTATIVES
Christian HORNER (Red Bull Racing), Zak BROWN (McLaren), Andy COWELL (Aston
Martin)
Q: Andy, why don't we start with
you? Very warm welcome first of all. You were running an update package on
Fernando Alonso's car in FP1. What was he saying about the car? Andy
COWELL: Yeah. New floor, modified top bodywork to go with the floor, running
just a series of tests through FP1. We'll add the floor to Lance's car now
for FP2, so he gets a comparison between old floor and new floor, crunch
through all the data and go from there. Just testing through FP1, doing some
runs that perhaps you wouldn't normally do, and we'll work out what to do
going forward.
Q: So, it hasn't been decided yet whether you're going
to run this package for the rest of the weekend? AC: End of tonight,
we'll work that one out.
Q: Now you said earlier this week that the
‘25 car is no longer in the wind tunnel. So, is that it for development now?
Is everything at Silverstone, just across the road, on 2026? AC: 99% is
on 2026. I've got an open mind to the fact that what we learn here this
weekend might mean that we drop the ‘25 car back in the wind tunnel just to
close the loop. So, we're not saying absolutely no ‘25 model running,
because now we've got our own tunnel we can test seven days a week, any hour
of those seven days, and it's easy just to slot the model back in and learn
a little bit more, so long as it helps us with the learning of creating a
Formula 1 car, aerodynamics in CFD, aerodynamics in the wind tunnel, and
aerodynamics on the track, and joining those three worlds together. So it
will be for the learning in readiness for '26 and '27.
Q: And the
world championship position will not be a factor in whether you continue
developing this car? AC: The key thing we're focusing on is our
medium-long term and 2026 is a key step for us as we go from a customer team
to a works team.
Q: Now, Andy, you were at 10 Downing Street on
Wednesday, helping to celebrate 75 years of Formula 1. It was, of course,
here at Silverstone on 13 May 1950 that the first race took place. As
someone who's been in the sport for 30-odd years, what's the biggest change
you've seen during your career? AC: It is the number of people that are
involved and the depth of the detail that we go into. The regulation
documents are huge compared with where they were in the early ‘90s when I
started in Formula 1. But the level of attention to detail in every aspect,
whether it's the detailed design, packaging, materials, coatings, process
control, the sophistication of the wind tunnels – everything's just into the
minutiae.
Q: Thank you for that. I'm sure there'll be more questions
for you in a minute. Christian, if I could bring you in now. Let's start
with Arvid Lindblad if we could. 22 laps for him in FP1, half a second off
Max Verstappen. What did you make of his performance? Christian HORNER: I
thought he acquitted himself very well. I mean, he's obviously another
product of the junior team. He's a talented young guy, only 17 years of age.
To jump into the car here at this circuit, which is a tough circuit, and be
only within half a second, I thought he acquitted himself very well. His
feedback was clear and concise, and yeah, he's definitely a prospect for the
future.
Q: Now what about the updates? You had some new bits on the
car in Austria last weekend. There's more new stuff this weekend. What was
Max saying about it in FP1? CH: I think it's about you bolt the new bits
on the car, obviously you then look to correlate them between your
development tools and on track, and then it's a matter of tuning to optimise
them. So, the guys and girls are going through that now. It was tricky out
there. The wind here is particularly tricky and you can feel how gusty it
is. So definitely quite a wind effect, but we got some very good data, some
very good knowledge from that session. Now let's see how it comes to play in
the session later on.
Q: And in terms of your championship ambitions
this year, how defining is the British Grand Prix? CH: Well, we're at the
halfway point. McLaren have done a super job so far this year. They've been
very dominant. We've managed to win two races so far. We're a significant
gap behind in the Drivers' Championship, so everyone has got to take an eye
off that now and just focus on race by race. They're all sort of like FA Cup
finals, so you’ve just got to try and optimize every single race and then
the points tables tend to take care of themselves. But we're really not
looking too far at the championship tables at the moment as opposed to
individual races that are coming thick and fast.
Q: Now what about
Max to Mercedes? It's still the talk of the town this weekend. What has he
said to you? CH: Look, there's obviously an awful lot of people talking
about it, but what's most important is the relationship between the driver
and the team. There's an agreement that defines that as well and everybody's
very clear on where we're at. Max has been with Red Bull since the very
start of his career. All his successes come in Red Bull Racing cars. He's a
big part of our team and he has a great deal of faith in the team and the
people around him. So, whilst there's always going to be speculation and
noise, I think we all sit fairly comfortable with where we're at and what
the situation is. We can't control the narrative of others but internally,
we know where we're at.
Q: Do you have a plan B in case he were to
leave? CH: You know… Oscar Piastri. It's all as subjective as that.
We're very focused on our current drivers and the relationship. Max has got
a contract until 2028. He's made it quite clear that he would like to finish
his career in a Red Bull car from start to finish. I think that's quite
special and unique for him. That's what we're focused on. We're just
ignoring the noise and focusing on the areas we know where we need to
improve and how to do that.
Q: Okay. Christian, thank you for that.
Zak, let's bring you in now. You weren't in Austria. Given what happened in
Canada at the previous race, what did you make of the wheel-to-wheel racing
between your guys at the Red Bull Ring? Zak BROWN: It was very exciting.
It was a great race. They raced each other very hard, very clean. I think
that's what everyone was looking forward to seeing – finally, that epic
battle. Of course, anytime you have your two cars near each other, it's a
bit of a nail-biter, but I thought they did a great job and it was a great
race and it was good to see.
Q: You have a 207 lead in the
Constructors’ Championship. That’s nearly double any other team. Does the
extent of your lead affect the rules of engagement for the drivers? ZB:
No. It's the same rules. Race each other hard, race each other clean, and
try and get as many points on the board for the team. Then it's up to them
to decide who is in front of who.
Q: Okay. Let's talk performance
quickly. You had new parts in Austria. You're trialling a new floor this
weekend at Silverstone. Is that it? Is this the last bit of development for
this car, or are you still pushing back in Woking? ZB: Well, I mean,
you're always pushing, but I think as Andy said, everyone's pretty much
wrapping up their ‘25 cars. We still have some bits that we've developed
that haven't been produced yet or put on the car, but pretty much 2026 is
the focus. But we do have a few more updates.
QUESTIONS FROM THE
FLOOR
Q: (Adam Cooper – Adam Cooper F1) For all three of you. Tim
Mayer has announced his bid for the presidency of the FIA. Firstly, are you
pleased for the good of the sport that there's going to be a contest, a
democratic process? And secondly, what are your thoughts on Tim's
credentials for the job? Zak, why don't we start with you? ZB: Yeah. I
read it this morning. I'm just kind of getting back online myself. So, other
than seeing the headline, I like Tim. Obviously, he's got some family
history with McLaren. But I like Tim. CH: Yeah. Likewise, I read it this
morning. Ultimately, it's nothing to do with the team. It's all to do with
the different motoring clubs. So yeah, there's a process and obviously we'll
follow with interest. AC: Yeah. Likewise. He's got racing heritage,
racing in his blood, and the FIA process will carry through and we'll find
out in December.
Q: (Ian Parkes – RacingNews365.com) Question for
you, Christian. You talk about the speculation and noise around Max, but Max
over these past two weekends has fuelled that himself. He's twice been asked
directly, ‘will you be at Red Bull in 2026?’ On both opportunities, he’s
decided not to nail his colours to the Red Bull mast. So can you just
clarify, will Max be at Red Bull in 2026? CH: Look, the contracts between
the drivers and the teams are always going to remain confidential. With any
driver's contract, there is an element of a performance mechanism, and of
course that exists within Max's contract. His intention is that he will be
there and driving for us in 2026. It's inevitable that he's of huge interest
to any other team in the pit lane. Actually, probably George triggered all
this speculation, probably trying to leverage his own situation and force
clarity, which you can understand because he's driven a very good season as
well this year. But inevitably, there will always be speculation about it. I
think the most important thing is the clarity that exists between Max and
the team, and that's very clear.
Q: (Jake Nichol – RacingNews365.com)
Another question for you, Christian. You mentioned earlier that you had a
plan B jokingly, you mentioned Oscar, but I don't think that's going to
happen. Would George be a realistic candidate should Max decide to leave, in
a direct swap potentially? CH: Well, it's remarkable that George is still
on the market. We haven't engaged in any discussion with George. So, he's
obviously pretty confident that he's going to get to retain where he is. But
look, we've got strength in depth within our team. You can see the Racing
Bulls drivers, you can see Lindblad that we're running today, and '26 is
going to be a transformational year. It's the biggest rule change in Formula
1 probably in the last 50 years where both chassis and power unit are being
introduced at the same time. Nobody, with hand on heart, can know what the
pecking order is going to be. It could be either one of these gentlemen
either side of me. It could be Ferrari. It could be Mercedes. It could be
anyone. There's an awful lot of subjectiveness to 2026, and it'll only be
really this time next year that you'll have a clear indication of what that
pecking order is. So, there are no guarantees that jumping into a Mercedes
car would automatically be a better proposition.
Q: (Diletta Colombo
– Automoto.it). A question for Andy. How have your new facilities in
Silverstone changed the way you work on upgrades and on 2026? AC: The new
facilities just help us have everything at our fingertips. Having the
aerodynamicists a short stroll away from the model build area and the wind
tunnel section just helps speed everything up. Having Adrian join us since
March, firing up the drawing board, and the machine that is required
downstream of that, has just added some extra impetus to what we're doing
for '26. At the start of this week, we had both Fernando and Lance in the
wind tunnel section with the model and Adrian. Adrian was talking about the
features on the model. Adrian, as I'm sure Christian remembers, he pushes
the boundaries. He packages ten things into the space where only one would
normally fit, and all the engineers see that as a challenge. It's not just
the engineers. It's the whole group of people within the aerodynamics
development area. The pace with which we're creating changes on the '26 wind
tunnel model is quicker than we've ever done before. It really is very
impressive. It is like watching 100 people all run 100 metres sub-ten
seconds, with perfect baton passes. It's very exciting to see and all of
that is enabled by having the facilities, and the people and the methods. So
yeah, it's an exciting journey into '26.
Q: (Mark Mann-Bryans –
Autosport) Another one for you, Andy, if that's okay. Christian just
mentioned his surprise that a driver of George's calibre is still not signed
up for next year. A few weeks ago, a story emerged that he's been linked
with you guys at Aston. Is there anything in that? But also, does it just
align that a driver of that calibre is being linked with your team? AC:
We're super fortunate. We've got this exciting run into '26. As Christian
mentioned, changing the power unit – we're working with Honda on that –
changing the aerodynamics, we've got Adrian working on that, we've got new
facilities. But the stability that we've got in having Lance and Fernando
signed up for next year means that they're not only helping us now develop
the tools that we're using for '26, '27 and beyond, but they're working
directly on the concept of the car. The discussions in the wind tunnel are
about the aerodynamic shape, but they're also about driver environment. How
much space is there in the cockpit? Adrian tends not to leave much space in
the cockpit. Everything's exceptionally tight. But that stability of having
two drivers signed up through into '26 is really helping us.
Q: (Luke
Smith – The Athletic) I think I've got another one for Christian, but
concerning your second seat. Yuki's had a bit of a tricky time in the Red
Bull so far. When you guys come to think about that seat, you mentioned the
strength in depth. Are you looking outside of the Red Bull pool at all when
you think about that seat, or is it all going to be within the Red Bull
set-up of Liam, Isack, Arvid even, and the game of who goes where in terms
of where those drivers end up for next year? CH: Obviously, our priority
will be to look at what we have within our pool of talent. Yuki has got
until the end of the season to demonstrate that he's the guy to remain in
the car. We have Isack also doing a good job and Liam finding his form as
well. So, within the Red Bull pool, we have talent. But of course, you're
always open to what is outside of that. We want to field the best line-up
that we can for next year. We've gone outside of that pool in recent years.
If we feel the necessity to do so, we wouldn't be afraid to do so again.
Q: (Jack Smith – Motorsportweek.com). Question for Andy. Felipe
Drugovich is going to be making his Formula E debut next week with Mahindra.
How do you feel he's going to get on? And do you feel that it could be a
potential Formula 1 audition for him, whether it's with you or with another
team? AC: Felipe is an exceptionally strong driver. We're lucky to have
him as our reserve driver. He helps out in the simulator, doing work for
'26, and I'm sure he'll do very well in all the other racing categories that
he's performing in.
Q: (Scott Mitchell – The Race) A question for
Christian and Zak on the subject of drivers. Christian, I know you half
joked about Oscar earlier. But with whatever you need to do on the driver
front, have you looked at the situation McLaren's in and thought that if
there's two drivers butting heads there, that could be an opportunity for
you to swoop for one of them in the future? And Zak, I know that your
drivers are under contract, but have you looked at what's going on at Red
Bull and seen if Max's availability could be something you could take
advantage of? CH: I think we've always taken a position of respecting the
contracts that drivers have with their existing teams. They've got two great
drivers. They're pushing each other hard, and they're managing to maintain a
healthy relationship, which is always a significant challenge when you've
got two very competitive drivers fighting for the ultimate prize in Formula
1. But every team is different. I wouldn't expect either of those guys… why
would they be wanting to step out of what currently is the fastest car at
the moment? That's the way it goes when you're at the front of the field and
leading the pack. So, I'd be astounded if there was any change to what
they've committed to. ZB: Yeah. Our drivers aren't going anywhere.
They're very happy, we're very happy, so there's no need to look at any
other drivers on the grid.
Q: (Leonid Kliuev – Grande Premio Brazil)
Question for Zak and Christian. You are two very different teams also in
terms of how centralised your team is. At McLaren, there is you, Zak, of
course, there is Andrea, and other people in charge, while at Red Bull, it
seems like it's more centralized around Christian. Is there a possibility of
Red Bull becoming less centralised and McLaren more centralised? CH:
Well, look. I think every team structure is different. The role of a team
principal in different teams, whilst the job title carries the name, the
definition of the role is very different. McLaren have activities in IndyCar,
in sports cars, across a whole host of different activities. At Red Bull
Racing, I have a clear structure that reports into me, similar to probably
Andy does or Toto Wolff does, where you have the main faculties that report
into me. Pierre Waché probably performs 80% of the role that perhaps Andrea
does at McLaren. It's just a different job title, different functions,
different set-up. It's a set-up that's worked incredibly well for us on
track and off track. We have a very tight senior management, a very strong
structure. We got strength in depth. We don't feel, and I certainly don't
feel, that there's a need to change or tune it. Of course, you're always
tuning as an organisation and optimizing, but our structure, the way it is
positioned, is very, very clear. ZB: Yeah. We're very happy with our
structure. It's working. You're always, like a race car, modifying,
tweaking, and enhancing, but we haven't had any senior leadership change in
a couple years and definitely don't anticipate any moving forward. What
we're doing is working, and we just want to keep our head down and keep
doing what we're doing.
Q: (Phil Duncan – PA) Question for you, Zak.
Historically, it doesn't usually end well between team-mates when they go
toe to toe for the World Championship. Do you envisage that Lando and Oscar
will be able to stay friends, or do you think at some stage it's inevitable
that they'll fall out in the heat of battle? ZB: No. I think the
relationship they have is fantastic. We've put a lot of time and effort into
building our team and having a chemistry within the team, and that starts
with the drivers. I think you saw how they handled Canada, how they've
conducted themselves, and I see no reason why they can't have a big battle
all the way to the end. May the best man win, and I'm sure they'll shake
hands and congratulate each other. Obviously, both of them want to win, but
I see no reason why, knowing the personalities and the way they race, that
they can't remain very good team-mates.
Q: (Isabel Barker – The Sun)
Zak, obviously at the British Grand Prix, Lando goes into it as the
favourite British driver. What do you think is his most British quality?
Would you say is he too polite? Does he eat too much mushy peas or what is
it? ZB: Well, he's very polite. I'm not sure he's too polite, but he is a
very polite gentleman. I haven't really paid too much attention to his
eating habits other than I know he doesn't like fish. So, I guess that would
rule out fish and chips. But no, he's a great guy. He's very excited. We
just had a big event in Trafalgar Square and it was a packed house, a couple
hours to get in, and what was cool is that the cheers for Oscar were almost
as loud. So, I think both our drivers are very excited to be here, as are
we. The British Grand Prix is always an awesome race.
Q: (Simon
Abberley – Nevis Radio) Open question to all three of you really. In recent
times, Fred Vasseur at Ferrari has been under a lot of pressure, and there's
talks of him being replaced. In similar positions for yourselves as team
principals and the pressures that you perceive, you've already mentioned
about stability. What's your thoughts on that? And would it be something you
would consider in the future, working in red? CH: Well, look, I think in
any organisation, stability is tremendously important. We've had 21 years of
stability and that has borne the kind of results that we've achieved. I
think Fred is a very capable manager. He's obviously managing what
effectively is a national team in Ferrari, and with that comes expectation
and pressure. He's still relatively new to the role, and it takes time to
put the right processes in place, the right people, the right culture. There
are no silver bullets in this business. It's about collectively getting a
group of people to work towards one objective. And with Ferrari, there is
the added pressure of national expectation. ZB: I'm a Fred fan. I've
known Fred for a long time, as we all have. I find him to be very sporting,
so I enjoy racing against him. He's very technical. He's a racer. He's in
multiple disciplines of motorsports. He was one pass away from winning the
World Championship last year. So, I think the results, they're winning
races. It's hard to see from the outside looking in, but I'm a Fred fan. I
think he does a good job and almost won the World Championship last year.
Q: (Niharika Ghorpade – Sportskeeda) Question for Christian. You
mentioned that there's an understanding between you and Max. But if it were
to come to pass where Max were to leave for any other team, how detrimental
is it towards Red Bull as a camp and going into the future? How damaging
would that be for the team at large? CH: Well, of course, Max is a key
part of our team and has been for pretty much ten years now. The intention
is to keep that going. But one day, whether it's the year after or the year
after, there will be a day that there is no more Max. You always have to
have that in mind, that the team always has to keep looking and investing in
the future. Hopefully that won't be for several years to come, but you never
know. So, you're always investing in young talent, you're always giving
opportunities like we did today with Arvid Lindblad, to see the next
generation coming through. Because one thing for sure in this business,
nothing stands still.
Q: Christian, would it be a similar impact to
when Sebastian Vettel left the team? CH: I mean, Sebastian left after
there was a significant regulation change. Obviously 2014 and its engine,
smashed all of us, and he got a dream offer from Ferrari and decided that
that was his future path. I remember Dietrich Mateschitz telling me at the
time, we don't need the best driver if we don't have the best car. At that
stage, it was about building a team and building… Things go in cycles and
sport goes in cycles. We've had two incredibly successful cycles in Formula
1, and what we want to do is build towards the next cycle. Now, of course,
we want that to be with Max, but we understand the pressure that there is
next year, with us coming in as a new power unit manufacturer. The challenge
of that is enormous. But we've got a hugely capable group of people. We've
invested significantly. We've got a great culture within the team. Who
knows? To expect us to be ahead of Mercedes next year is… It would be
embarrassing for Mercedes if we were, or for any manufacturer. But I think
we're going to be in a competitive position, potentially even to where we
are today relative to our other PU manufacturers. There's everything to play
for. What's great is having it all under one roof, chassis engineers sitting
next to engine engineers. That shouldn't be underestimated when you're
talking about the packaging, like Andy was talking about earlier. When
you've got the ability to have those groups communicating and talking with
each other directly over a cup of coffee and within the same facility, that
is priceless, and that will pay dividends. Maybe it won't be in '26, but
'27, '28, and beyond, long term for Red Bull, 100% it is the right thing. |