Trailfinders v Saracens: post match-related comment here


By The Saracens
October 30 2024

It’s still October but already the GP is 1/3 completed which is crazy when you think the final is still almost 8 months away! We now enter an unsatisfactory melee of Premiership cup, European cup and fallow weeks interspersed randomly with the occasional GP tie. Is it any wonder the club game is in trouble. This has been an incredible season so far with lots of high scoring entertaining games but just as the momentum is building nicely it is stopped in its tracks. Is there any other sport that treats its fans quite so badly?

But I digress. It has been ordained that we meet Ealing Trailfinders on Saturday in the revamped Premiership Cup. Gone are the Welsh to be replaced by our very own Championship Clubs (a move I do support). I think the Premiership Cup would be more meaningful if there were actual rules around which players can play rather than a sort of general misunderstanding that it is largely a competition for A team players. Maybe limit the number of players over 23 or with more than 20 first team appearances to a maximum of 5. That way the cup would be a bit more meaningful and would truly be the development competition it aspires to be, whilst also allowing a platform for injured players to get some game time.

Sarries, as we saw on Saturday, are pretty close to bare bones anyway such that many of those who played on Saturday may well be required again next weekend. Hopefully the likes of Carre, Tizard, Van Zyl, and Willis will be off to find some well deserved winter sunshine while their team mates turn out for their respective countries, meanwhile I expect a number of our England internationals will be lacking game time over the next month. This weekend, the likes of Loz and Daly are consigned to water carriers whereas Isiekwe and Dan will be lucky to get 10 minutes off the bench. Meanwhile Jamie, Maro and Ben Earl will likely be flogged to death.

So to Trailfinders. Our season in the Championship gave us a good look at the top club in the next tier, a club with ambition and far more patience than I have. It’s also somewhere that a lot of our Academy have graduated to: Ben Harris, Danny Cutmore & Francis Moore along with familiar names like Nathan Earle and Biyi Alo, late of this parish. So they will all have something to prove! Trailfinders have also recruited Ruben Bird-Tulloch, Tom Collins, Jordan Reid and Mike Willemse so it’s not going to be easy.

Sarries tend to take the Premiership Cup in the true spirit of the competition so hopefully some of our promising youngsters will get a run out. It’s a shame Louie is injured just when he should be showing us what he can do but I guess that’s rugby! Still an opportunity for Phil Brantingham, Samson Adejimi, Nathan Michelow, Harry Wilson, Charlie Bracken and probably a few others to stake their claim! Tim Swiel may well be need to be involved too. Trailfinders will be a stiff challenge for a young, largely Academy Team but it will also be a good learning exercise for them and an interesting watch for us (if we can find a platform showing it!).

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Trailfinders v Saracens: post match-related comment here
Discussion started by TheSaracens.com , 30/10/2024 13:20
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024:11:12:10:49:27 by Darraghgirl.

The Bard
30/10/2024 17:48
Adejimi doesn’t seem to have featured the last couple of weeks so I fear he may be injured. Jack Bracken was name checked by James Tirrell so hopefully he’s raring to go again.

TommyKentish
30/10/2024 17:49
Bird-Tulloch was once of this parish too!

I’m guessing it won’t be too far from our Storm team, so something like this:

Phil Brantingham
Samson Adejimi
Harvey Beaton
Olamide Sodeke
Kaden Pearce-Paul
Harry Wilson
Max Eke
Nathan Michelow
Charlie Bracken
Tim Swiel
Brandon Jackson
Josh Hallett
Sam Spink
Angus Hall/Jack Bracken
Tom Parton

Pearce-Paul might be injured so maybe Wilson to lock or Kennedy Sylvester. Could also see Knight starting to bring a bit of “experience” to the pack.

dirtybertie
31/10/2024 14:02
Just got back from training ground. Its an exciting line up

TommyKentish
31/10/2024 18:28
Bertie you tease.

Sarriebone
01/11/2024 12:06
Saracens Men team to play Ealing Trailfinders:

1 Phil Brantingham
2 Kapeli Pifeleti
3 Fraser Balmain
4 Harry Wilson
5 Olamide Sodeke
6 Max Eke
7 Toby Knight
8 Nathan Michelow (c)
9 Charlie Bracken
10 Tim Swiel
11 Brandon Jackson
12 Josh Hallett
13 Sam Spink
14 Angus Hall
15 Tom Parton

Replacements:

16 James Hadfield
17 Sam Crean
18 Ollie Hoskins
19 Kennedy Sylvester
20 Izaiha Moore-Aiono
21 Callum Braley
22 Max Clark
23 Jack Bracken



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024:11:01:12:06:50 by Sarriebone.

TommyKentish
01/11/2024 12:24
Great to see Spink and Balmain starting! Lots to be excited by in the lineup.

Surbiton Sarries
01/11/2024 13:12
Ealing Trailfinders v Saracens
Referee: Joe James
ARs: Holly Wood & Mike Woods

dirtybertie
01/11/2024 15:12
Izaiha Moore-Aiono is the current Smaoa international number 7 and Theos mate. An explosive carrier looked good in trianing and previously with Irish, Saints and Ampthill. On trial with looking at potential Injruy cover for AC

Jsrd92
02/11/2024 13:39
Is the game being streamed anywhere does anyone know?

Sarriebone
02/11/2024 15:19
Don't think so. Currently 12-0 down 20 mins in



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024:11:02:15:21:44 by Sarriebone.

Sarriebone
02/11/2024 15:27
26 | Try Ealing. Bird-Tulloch creeps down the shortside and scores in the corner.

✈️ 17 💫 0

Sarriebone
02/11/2024 15:43
HT 24-05

Sarriebone
02/11/2024 16:49
FT 29-19

The Bard
03/11/2024 15:10
Even though the teams looked pretty equal on paper, it was quickly evident the vast difference training and playing together every week makes. Losing our scrum half after 5 minutes made things even worse. Our defence in the first half was all over the place as was the attack despite a few good breaks.
The scrum was battered, 4 penalties followed by losing our own against the head. Lineout slightly better, but Kapelli is not a strong thrower and Sodeke not a great catcher. Couldn’t understand why we weren’t using Michelow more as a target.
The lessons of pulling down an advancing maul in the corner from last week weren’t learned, and we disastrously lost 2 players in the same attack.
But then we astonishingly scored with 13 men!
Scramble defence in 5he second half so much better although we didn’t look like winning. Even with Hadfield throwing the lineout failed to improve.
A pity we didn’t have an easier first game while the team were finding their feet.
But a few perennial questions remain. Kapelli is OK in the loose but throwing not good enough. Hoskins again ok in loose but I dread to think what percentage of scrums he gets penalised in. And Harry Wilson is a tidy player but nowhere near as effective as Stonham or Hunter-Hill who wouldn’t have been on big money.
As for Ealing, it’s a nice set-up but a very sterile atmosphere. Even though they were hammering us in the first half the crowd barely noticed. No tannoy which was surprising.
It felt a bit like watching games in Paris compared to the south of France, good but just lacking the passion.

tigersimon
03/11/2024 18:14
Any news on why Balmain dropped out?

JimG
07/11/2024 17:34
Any views on why we are so terrible in the Prem Cup? Other premiership teams play development sides but we seem to be consistently underperforming over the last few years.

The Bard
07/11/2024 18:02
It’s weird. Man for man we should have been competitive but the first half tries conceded suggested we had never seen each other, never mind played together.
Whether training is still focussed on first team during this period I don’t know?

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