Wasps v Newcastle, 02/01/2010


By Leipziger
December 31 2010

This Sunday the Falcons make a third attempt to play their first Premiership match since November, following two home postponements.   An industrial estate in High Wycombe beckons for our first game of 2011, like 2010 against the White Anglo Saxon Protestants.

Of course we will be returning to the scene of the Jon Golding-inspired 12-6 victory over Wasps a year ago as we aim for a first away win of the season.  Jimmy Gopperth’s boot saw us defeat the Pests at Adams Park for the first time although it got a little hairy in the last few minutes.  Still, it was an unforgettably tense evening and one those who saw it will not soon forget.

 

Wasps were also the first opponents of Alan Tait’s spell as manager back in May, and have already lost at Kingston Park this season, 27-19 in September.  That win gave us some hope of a better season in the Premiership but it hasn’t really worked out that way as the Falcons languish in 11th place.

 

Since September Wasps have overcome not winning either of their opening matches to climb to fifth in the Premiership table.  The first league game at Adams Park this season saw Leicester defeated 37-30, while London Irish and most recently Exeter have also lost in High Wycombe.  In all competitions only Northampton, 10-37 in October, have beaten Wasps on their own turf.

 

Indeed, alongside Northampton and ourselves, only Scarlets, in the LV= Cup back in January, won at Adams Park in 2010.

 

On Sunday Wasps made the short trip to Wembley to meet Saracens in front of a 40,000-plus crowd and the Sky cameras.  Two penalties by former Falcon Dave Walder gave Wasps a losing bonus point in a 13-6 defeat.  Andy Saull was the only try-scorer although Sarries debutant Gavin Henson came close with one of his first touches.

 

With Sunday being, well, Sunday obviously, Euan Murray will not be making his debut, however, Matt Thompson will have another go at making his first league start of the season and Jason Spice could make a Geordie bow from the bench (team correct according to the Chronicle):

 

15 Jeremy Manning

14 Luke Fielden

13 Tane Tu’ipulotu

12 Luke Eves

11 Gcobani Bobo

10 Jimmy Gopperth

9 Micky Young

1 Grant Shiells

2 Matt Thompson

3 Kieran Brookes

4c James Hudson

5 Tim Swinson

6 Will Welch

7 Redford Pennycook

8 Ally Hogg

 

16 Matt Hall

17 Micky Ward

18 Tim Ryan

19 Filipo Levi

20 Mark Wilson

21 Jason Spice

22 James Fitzpatrick

23 Danny Williams

 

Wasps coach Shaun Edwards, so relieved at full-time when we last lost at Adams Park in April 2009, ironically by the same 12-6 score we beat the Pests by last season, has called for the home fans to get behind their team on Sunday ahead of a “huge game”.  I’m sure the travelling Geordies will need no such encouragement to help our team make it a Happy New Year.

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Wasps v Newcastle, 02/01/2010
Discussion started by FalconsRugby.org.uk , 31/12/2010 11:18
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alas
31/12/2010 11:46
Have the Falcons had three props on the bench before?

oldlad
31/12/2010 12:03
Matt Hall is a Hooker.Blaydon captain.

citizen-slacker
31/12/2010 13:08
London Wasps team to face Newcastle Falcons at Adams Park on Sunday 2nd January, KO 3pm:

15 Richard Haughton
14 Tom Varndell
13 Ben Jacobs (C)
12 Riki Flutey
11 David Lemi
10 Dave Walder



Charlie Beech is back from an ankle injury to bolster the replacements
9 Nic Berry
1 Tim Payne
2 Tom Lindsay
3 Zak Taulafo
4 Simon Shaw
5 James Cannon
6 Will Matthews
7 Joe Worsley
8 Andy Powell

16 Jason Hobson
17 Charlie Beech
18 Ben Broster
19 Marty Veale
20 Serge Betsen
21 Charlie Davies
22 Steve Kefu
23 Mark Van Gisbergen


Wasps offy

DGNTR
31/12/2010 14:03
They've a stronger team than us, Wasps by 12 me thinks.

welsh wasp
31/12/2010 14:30
We too have 3 props on the bench - Hobson will act as replacement hooker.

Is Leipzinger making a flat and rather silly attempt at humour by referring to us White Anglo Saxon Protestants? 4 non-white in the starting team; 2 Australians; 1 Welsh.

TouchLine
31/12/2010 14:38
Quote:
They've a stronger team than us, Wasps by 12 me thinks
Not as strong as last week though with Gis and Betsen on the bench.

Perhaps they're underestimating us? (Sm22)

sour
31/12/2010 15:55
Quote:
welsh wasp
Is Leipzinger making a flat and rather silly attempt at humour by referring to us White Anglo Saxon Protestants?

it's a pretty well known americanism that WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant

but glad you spotted it was a joke anyway....

Leipziger
31/12/2010 16:12
It is just the acronym, I've no idea how many white or black players you have.

Thespence_uk
02/01/2011 15:43
9-3 to Wasps all pens

Thespence_uk
02/01/2011 15:54
16-10 Jimmy Gee with our try.

donegalfalcon
02/01/2011 16:33
19-10 now

There's 35 seconds to go
02/01/2011 16:34
19-16

There's 35 seconds to go
02/01/2011 16:40
26-16 @#$%&

Silvergiraffes
02/01/2011 16:44
Very poor last 10 mins, men against boys...

There's 35 seconds to go
02/01/2011 16:46
33-16 hell's bells.

TouchLine
02/01/2011 16:48
I wonder how Steve will put a positive spin on this?

There's 35 seconds to go
02/01/2011 16:53
Well, we appeared to be competitive for 70 minutes. They're good lads though and there's plenty time left in the season .

</Steve>

TouchLine
02/01/2011 16:55
(Sm152)

Maccafan2
02/01/2011 17:13
Hugely disappointing weekend.Leeds and Sale win,and we can't even achieve a one pointer.The pressure is now massive.Tait's record is not impressive.

Petros
02/01/2011 17:48
2nd try 60 metre rolling maul
3rd for collapsing 2 5 metre scrums

TouchLine
02/01/2011 18:05
Some work for the Professor in the week then.

DGNTR
02/01/2011 18:23
To be fair it sounds like we were in it right up until the last 10 mins. Still poor not to secure a losing BP though.

We're definitely in the clarty stuff now, I do hope they realise this at the club and start to put plan B in motion, whatever that might be...

Kwa444
02/01/2011 18:29
Just need to make sure we win at home and we will be fine. Sale have a nasty selection of games to come. Leeds about on a par with us.

Don't think anyone else will be in the mix now.

Thespence_uk
02/01/2011 18:47
The forwards get bashed a lot when does it get to the point that Tait or someone looks at what Mori is doing because it cant all be the players......or is it?

TouchLine
02/01/2011 18:52
The way Bath are playing Leeds could pick up a result there next week.

TouchLine
02/01/2011 19:07
Quote:
Falcons head coach Alan Tait said: "We are targeting our home games. It is a short week for us, thankfully, we have got five days to get back on the paddock and I hope the guys respond.

Well if it was a Sunday not a Friday it wouldn't be a short week.

falcon phil
02/01/2011 19:28
The Albainians at home on Friday is Massive!
Lets get a big crowd making a big noise!
Cumon Falcons!

Maccafan2
02/01/2011 22:15
The pack,Hudson excepted, has been shoite all season.Bring in Afu,Murray,Van der vart and Golding.Moriarty has to be close to the Sugar goodbye.

DGNTR
02/01/2011 22:41
A pack that looks like the following should be able to do the business for us over the remainder of the season:

1 Golding
2 Vickers
3 Murray
4 Hudson
5 Van der Heijden
6 Afu
7 Pennycook
7 Hogg

falcon phil
02/01/2011 22:43
Good shout dodgy but I would have swinson at blindside.

alas
02/01/2011 22:50
The Falcons will be in trouble if they don't win on Friday. Moriarty should be getting far more out of the pack than he has so far this season.

Maccafan2
02/01/2011 22:52
Swinson is a journeyman,at best.DGNTR's pack looks the dogs.

DGNTR
02/01/2011 22:55
I couldn't make my mind up between Swinson and Afu but went for Afu, he has the edge and offers much more around the park than the lineout man that is Swinson.

alas
02/01/2011 22:59
In Moriarty's incapable hands Swinson hasn't been as good this in the previous two seasons. But at least he was premiership class for 2 years whereas Afu is still unproven.

falcon phil
03/01/2011 09:38
Cant agree macca that Swinson is a journeyman think in the last game I saw at Gala both him an Ally Hogg were dynamic in the loose and he is still a young lad.
Think Josh is a huge potential talent and if he is selected on the Blindside I wouldn't be disappointed.

Maccafan2
03/01/2011 10:01
Having watched the 3 live games this weekend,and suffered Oztin,nice but dim Ben and Judith's son,a few observations.Sarries 1st half shoite,Gav's tan awesome.Sale 1st half brilliant,but hung on.Exeter well worthy of a place in Premiership,and will keep it easily,also their coach looks decent.Every team this weekend got points,except us.Neil Back is 100% certain they will stay up,and its a straight fight between us and Leeds for a championship place!

Cantabrian
03/01/2011 10:26
we better pray that Gopperth doesn't get injured

Chester Chump
03/01/2011 16:24
Interesting to see that Tait is now targetting the home games, since the opposite is true of away games. No wins in any away game for the first half of the season is pathetic, and yet the club encourages fans to go, despite not apparently being bothered about results.
Lose to Sale on Friday night, and it's pretty much a 2 horse race for relegation. The postponement agaist Leeds has come back to bite us, since a morale boosting win over our rivals could have given a completely different mind set. We now need to play every game as though it is our last and treat this situation for the dire straits it is. Putting pressure on yourself at home could lead to a massive drop in morale if results aren't achieved. The last 5 league fixtures are very difficult anyway, plus 2 games now to slot in, so strong performances are required, and no mealy mouthed excuses are acceptable. Just to reiterare - the club has accepted a losing mentality for too long - it has to stop.

DGNTR
03/01/2011 19:32
We're in the doo doo, no doubt about that.

We've been here every season for years now, why would we believe it'd be any different? Same old Falcons, always struggling.

Maccafan2
03/01/2011 23:22
Brassed off with the season so far,Murray and Manning signings excepted.Bates prattle was bad enough,but now we have Tait saying home game are our priority.Yeah.Come on.Mediocrity is what the long suffering have put up with,home and away,with the very odd exception.

TJO
03/01/2011 23:41
Mediocrity and poor performance stem from lack of resources which is a reflection of the lack of support in the area. Moaning and sniping on a public forum like this just makes it worse.

steve1888
04/01/2011 08:42
Pack needs to toughen up and not just the front row, Golding and Murray will help that friday and hopefully Van Der Heijden too.

Swinson is our most consistent forward IMO and should start at 6 when VDH is fit, still dont rate Afu anywhere near to Swinsons standard.

We need a couple of much more physical and generally hard forwards.

I fancy Sale to go down despite their win on Sunday - must win game for us friday though no way round that.

Maccafan2
04/01/2011 11:02
I fancy it will be a close game,but we need to start really well.Front foot stuff,points on the board and put the pressure on them.Too many times this season we are slow to start, and give the opposition a lead.Tait has to find a way to get them fired up this week,and for the rest of the season.Agree with Steve,for once,the forwards are too soft,they were bullied by Wasps,who aren't the best up front.

Hideo
04/01/2011 11:06
It's going to be a tense night on Friday that's for sure.

Defeat doesn't bear thinking about, and I couldn't give a monkeys how it's achieved but winning on Friday is a must,

alas
04/01/2011 12:02
One key to victory is strong defence, but without giving away a stack of penalties. We won't win if we give Hodgson the same chances as we gave Walder on Sunday.

sour
04/01/2011 12:09
Or if we let him dictate field position like sarries did

Also we'll need to man up and protect whoever is playing at 9 as they got after wiggo as well.

Not looking forward to watching the game back on Saturday/Sunday

newfalcon
04/01/2011 12:49
I think our starting back row for Wasps was simply too lightweight. Welch is a 7 not a 6.

newfalcon
04/01/2011 12:53
Also Cueto is out for the game on Friday. [www.rugby365.com]

Blue Dragoon
04/01/2011 13:02
now that is a bonus..he was outstanding against sarries

alas
04/01/2011 13:09
I certainly wouldn't back Bobo being able to keep Cueto quiet.

DGNTR
04/01/2011 14:43
He won't need to, but he'll need to keep somebody else wuiet, which will be just as challenging. I'd rather he wasn't playing at all.

Blue Dragoon
04/01/2011 14:51
DG...now that made me chuckle!!

Maccafan2
04/01/2011 15:22
Bobo has been disappointing,he won't get another contract,will he.

SouthFalcon27
04/01/2011 15:53
seeing as it looks like henderson and ryan are getting new contracts from the look of recent interviews, i would probably think its likely bobo will get a new contract.

Maccafan2
04/01/2011 22:41
A ma zing!

steve1888
04/01/2011 22:48
I doubt it

DGNTR
05/01/2011 00:43
Ryan isn't getting a new contract, he already has one, it runs to 2012 unfortunately.

Bobo will not be getting a renewal.

SouthFalcon27
05/01/2011 00:45
Both have stated in interviews that new contracts are on the table with the last 10 days i believe. I may be wrong and Tait may realise are not up to standard, but at the moment everything points to them resigning. sh0ite.

SouthFalcon27
05/01/2011 00:49
"They've already talked to me about staying here next year"
Ryan interview

steve1888
05/01/2011 08:18
I think it's an option on Ryan's and maybe worth another year he he has similar performances to Sale away and Glaws at home to prove himself.

Bobo and Henderson have to go though, one will be on decent money and hasnt shown worth it and one hasnt shown anything.

exhooker
05/01/2011 08:24
Telfs 123 gave me hope for a moment. I read that they were resigning and thought good, then realised that they were re-signing.Not good.

Falconfan
05/01/2011 14:42
But reason he is not playing on Friday is not because of injury, but because of the elite player resting agreement with the RFU.

TouchLine
05/01/2011 15:40
Fair enough

DGNTR
05/01/2011 21:59
I was wrong about Ryan, his contract does indeed expire in 2011.

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