Somerset
The World Turns
By Grockle et al
October 5 2014
Well it's started, the last phase of the ground redevelopment sees the end of the Old Pavilion. Demolished and removed, the last vestige of the old ground leaves the crease and the total revamp of the ground 'for the 21st century' takes place with the plan that it will all be complete by August 2015. We shall see.
And so the Old Pavilion goes to the sportsground in the sky. The last structure of a bygone age moves aside for a modern version of the Stragglers and we all await the structure that will appear over the next few months, seating between 800 and 2000 spectators with a new Media Centre and a bar where the ghost of Pat can serve the ghost of Tony on his seat to one side while the ghost of Bill tells us everything we need to know about the game and the county in his inimitabally miserable way.
The Press Release from the club reads as follows;
"The diggers have now moved in on the building which has witnessed some amazing cricket throughout the years and has also seen the game’s greatest names take to the field. From Bradman to Botham, Richards to Trescothick and Gimblett to Caddick they have all entertained the Somerset Faithful.
However, a stunning new development is set to replace the grand old building which will take Somerset County Cricket Club to the next level both on and off the field.
The new facility will comprise high-quality covered seating behind the bowlers arm, alongside a large bar and entertainment area, high-quality corporate/media facilities and a magnificent roof top viewing area.
Once completed the new building will also bring the ground up to the standard required to host International cricket."
Will it be 'stunning'? As many have said, as long as it allows you to sit behind the bowler's arm AND does not look like the Caddyshack most will be happy. Those who think the pessimistic way expect it to be open only to the privileged few and to leave the members wanting 'as usual'. The food area has to be better than present - the grub has always been good but there was little space to eat it and it was usually behind the sightscreen. The 'corporate' comment to many means the main part of this will replace the boxes of the 'cowshed' rather than cater for the general public but they need seats for the increased capacity so they have to be somewhere.
The return of the Straggler's bar? I welcome that although it will never have the ambience of the large garden shed version with the veranda and grass outside of the old Stragglers. But it will allegedly have the name and therefore it will preserve the memory of those who created the ambience, many of who are watching the present performances from a much better vantage point than those on the ground nowadays.
Will there be a better version of the potting shed (could there be?)? How will the BBC cope with decent media facilities to report on Somerset games? Is it right that they won't be in the wind sitting on the floor of a garden shed as they have for decades? Maybe it is right that the demolition should start with the press box for that reason. Get rid of the rubbish and replace it wwith something else. Having experienced the Somerset concept of 'state of the art' I myself am dubious about the facilities to come. A better press box would be nice (drinking water from a tap rather than a bucket with 'drinking water' on it would be an improvement). I hope they have moved the plaque to those who reported from the box for many years - Mr Gibson, Mr Green and others - it has been a second home to some for over 2 decades and I hope they get something with a wall fan at least for a new one.
It is the best vantage point on the ground in so many ways. The roof will be missed by many photographers if not by the BBC. The cinema seats were the preferred place for so many and although I compared it to a wind tunnel many older supporters swore by it. The 'media centre' there witnessed more than SKY complaining about the facilities. Supporters ran the ball by ball commentary there for 3 years with very little. I'd hope to see some chance to do that again somewhere better on matches when the broadcasters can't be bothered.
But it's the supporters who deserve better. Ex Vice President's have waited a long time for something at that end. The Gimblett's has so much going for it in terms of comeraderie but the belief that we lost something when the old places went and we never got it back means that this building is more important to many than it should be.
It needs to be something to be proud of for a very committed and proud part of the supporting public.
International cricket? It should never have been the objective of the rebuild. It will be a by product but no more than that. You aren't going to be watching England v Australia at Taunton any time soon, if ever. I may one day get to see Oman play Ireland possibly or two minor celebrity international sides play a 50 over match but that is all.
If Somerset are waiting to join the international elite, then it willl be a LOOOOOONG wait.
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Here's hopeing for a good winter so everything goes ahead on time.is there any chance MIke that you throw in a few photos each week to keep us up to date.Thanks. I was hoping the club might have installed a webcam to show progress
I have done this on two threads
Photos I have been trying to put on here of the redevelopment.
Two from the 3rd and two from today 6th.
One from the 3rd at the very start.
Another one from the 3rd when it all began.
Now this photo from today the 6th, the actual old Part of the Old Pavilion.
The second photo from today the 6th, it all takes time because everything is sorted in it's separate lots for recycling, metal, wood, wire and the rubbish that just gets dumped.
Photos I have been trying to put on here of the redevelopment.
Two from the 3rd and two from today 6th.
One from the 3rd at the very start.
Another one from the 3rd when it all began.
Now this photo from today the 6th, the actual old Part of the Old Pavilion.
The second photo from today the 6th, it all takes time because everything is sorted in it's separate lots for recycling, metal, wood, wire and the rubbish that just gets dumped.
'History' gives way to 'progress'. It's always difficult but it did need knocking down before it fell down in certain areas.
As I've written, it depends whether the new version respects the old version and is worth putting up.
Trouble is, we won't know until it's here.
As I've written, it depends whether the new version respects the old version and is worth putting up.
Trouble is, we won't know until it's here.
Fair point of course, Grockle - if it was as close to falling down as most are saying I guess it had to go. (Maybe it might as well have been done back when the ground floor was remodelled and the old, awful, changing rooms disposed of).
I still find it terribly sad given its place in the club's and my personal history. This probably says more about my temperament than anything else.
That said, if some of the idiots sitting near me as I watched my last afternoon's cricket there were still inside when it was demolished - well, it would be a bit of a trade-off.
I still find it terribly sad given its place in the club's and my personal history. This probably says more about my temperament than anything else.
That said, if some of the idiots sitting near me as I watched my last afternoon's cricket there were still inside when it was demolished - well, it would be a bit of a trade-off.
Too true. It was the home of some of the most miserable fans I've ever experienced in any form of sport.
Bet they'll only miss it because it was cold and uncomfortable.
We can only hope that there will be some memories watching from the new one to file away before too long.
Bet they'll only miss it because it was cold and uncomfortable.
We can only hope that there will be some memories watching from the new one to file away before too long.
Anyone feeling nostalgic for the cold, discomfort, permanent fear of collapse and most importantly, miserable fans could always head for the Old Grandstand at Exeter City FC. Will feel like home from home.
Whilst I never sat in, I usually sat in front of it and I have to say I managed to do so without any great fear of collapse, any discomfort, cold, plague of locusts or death of the first born.
You must count yourself fortunate, AG. At the OP end of the ground one sees constant locust attacks, not to mention boils and blains on the white faces of the singing girls.
People don't understand the bravery of Mike TA1.
People don't understand the bravery of Mike TA1.
Quote:And many of us had to see the "self opinionated commentators" that nobody listened to,pass by on there way to rabbiting. In need of a personality transplant.Grockle
Too true. It was the home of some of the most miserable fans I've ever experienced in any form of sport.
Bet they'll only miss it because it was cold and uncomfortable.
We can only hope that there will be some memories watching from the new one to file away before too long.
Nobody passed by the front of the OP smallfry. It wasnt on a main throughfare. You went TO it.
Not sure if your post is an insult or an agreement but if you've ever spent half an hour sitting there with Spike you'll know what I was referring to. It wasn't a comment about the 'average' supporter in that area of whom I am sure you are one.
I was referring to the white seats on the ground floor not the cinema seats upstairs sorry if that caused confusion. The front two rows there always seemed to be for the people looking forward to the day while the back two seemed reserved for the 'Grumblers'.
If you were on about the upstairs seats smallfry... those guys walking through are from SKY and you are probably correct in your assessment on the whole.
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Not sure if your post is an insult or an agreement but if you've ever spent half an hour sitting there with Spike you'll know what I was referring to. It wasn't a comment about the 'average' supporter in that area of whom I am sure you are one.
I was referring to the white seats on the ground floor not the cinema seats upstairs sorry if that caused confusion. The front two rows there always seemed to be for the people looking forward to the day while the back two seemed reserved for the 'Grumblers'.
If you were on about the upstairs seats smallfry... those guys walking through are from SKY and you are probably correct in your assessment on the whole.
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Saying goodbye to the old Pavilion was a sad occasion before it gets demolished.
Those taking part was CEO Guy Laverder, President Roy Kerslake, Clubs Chaplain Rob Walrond and Somerset Captain Marcus Trescothick.
At the end of the speeches there was three cheers from the supporters with our own Bagpuss in the crowd.
The clubs Chaplain Rob Walrond had the crowd listening to every word.
Marcus Trescothick recalling his memories of the Old Pavilion.
Supporters looking down from on high listening to the Chaplain.
The President Roy Kerslake is always good to listen too.
Although Guy Lavender hasn't been on the cricket scene all that long he has learnt a lot in such a short time and with his leadership the club should keep on improving.
Another view of the supporters who stayed behind at the end of the game.
Somebody said that one supporter was trying to be the last person to leave the Old Pavilion.
Another season ends so I can't finish without saying a big thanks to all the office staff for doing such a great job throughout the season.
The two in the photo are Online Manager Sarah Trunks and Commercial Sales Executive Melissa Ottery.
Sadly for us Mel is leaving the club next Friday to go onto greener pastures, I want to wish her all the best in her new job.
Those taking part was CEO Guy Laverder, President Roy Kerslake, Clubs Chaplain Rob Walrond and Somerset Captain Marcus Trescothick.
At the end of the speeches there was three cheers from the supporters with our own Bagpuss in the crowd.
The clubs Chaplain Rob Walrond had the crowd listening to every word.
Marcus Trescothick recalling his memories of the Old Pavilion.
Supporters looking down from on high listening to the Chaplain.
The President Roy Kerslake is always good to listen too.
Although Guy Lavender hasn't been on the cricket scene all that long he has learnt a lot in such a short time and with his leadership the club should keep on improving.
Another view of the supporters who stayed behind at the end of the game.
Somebody said that one supporter was trying to be the last person to leave the Old Pavilion.
Another season ends so I can't finish without saying a big thanks to all the office staff for doing such a great job throughout the season.
The two in the photo are Online Manager Sarah Trunks and Commercial Sales Executive Melissa Ottery.
Sadly for us Mel is leaving the club next Friday to go onto greener pastures, I want to wish her all the best in her new job.
Thanks Mike. A sad day, but some things do have to change evetually.
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And Jack Russell has put his brush to work on a painting of the OP for the club.
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I can't say the Old Pavilion is my favourite building from a spectators point of view and though I know its history, I didn't experience most of it so to me it's an inadequate bar with decent food but too little space provided in mostly windy conditions for members to watch the game in what should be the best place on the ground.
Not all that enamoured by the newer CA Pavilion though it is better after it's refurbishment.
Just hope this new one pays a fitting tribute to the area it takes its name from and provides a less windy and better watching experience for a larger number of members. Oh and looks at home on a cricket ground rather than Newquay surfing beach.
Seen the pictures but they don't really give the feel of the real thing. Glad to see a Stragglers Bar - memories of Pat, Tony, Bill and many more are very welcome in a new facility.
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Not all that enamoured by the newer CA Pavilion though it is better after it's refurbishment.
Just hope this new one pays a fitting tribute to the area it takes its name from and provides a less windy and better watching experience for a larger number of members. Oh and looks at home on a cricket ground rather than Newquay surfing beach.
Seen the pictures but they don't really give the feel of the real thing. Glad to see a Stragglers Bar - memories of Pat, Tony, Bill and many more are very welcome in a new facility.
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... to pray for you, AGod. (he's given up on me)
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There's a nice item by John Harris on the official site, the first of a promised series by former players.
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That is indeed a lovely article by Scyld Berry - he understands the heartbeat of Somerset cricket.
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Yep Scyld gets what the OP was about and that feel of Taunton just before the start of a game at that end of the ground.
Some did have the opportunity of getting on the roof (I think Mike got up there every now and then) I used to enjoy the seats in front of the building (to the right of the cover area) I saw Paul Bird get Brian Lara there in one of the first games I watched. The cowshed used to smell consistently of pipe smoke. The view from the press box is excellent (although a bit cramped) and the scorers probably had the best seats in the house - though the commentating position of the ball by ball people was pretty good as well.
The cinema seats? I know many loved them to death but without thermal underwear there were times when that section was only inhabited by the very hardy supporter in the heaviest of fleeces or a car blanket or three. My father in law insisted on watching from there however much it resembled Filton's wind tunnel. If they can make that view more comfortable for a couple of thousand people without sacrificing it to corporate demands and heavy duty membership fees then they will have done their job and enhanced the ground.
Some did have the opportunity of getting on the roof (I think Mike got up there every now and then) I used to enjoy the seats in front of the building (to the right of the cover area) I saw Paul Bird get Brian Lara there in one of the first games I watched. The cowshed used to smell consistently of pipe smoke. The view from the press box is excellent (although a bit cramped) and the scorers probably had the best seats in the house - though the commentating position of the ball by ball people was pretty good as well.
The cinema seats? I know many loved them to death but without thermal underwear there were times when that section was only inhabited by the very hardy supporter in the heaviest of fleeces or a car blanket or three. My father in law insisted on watching from there however much it resembled Filton's wind tunnel. If they can make that view more comfortable for a couple of thousand people without sacrificing it to corporate demands and heavy duty membership fees then they will have done their job and enhanced the ground.
Lol, you mentioned John Harris in your posting of 13.29 today.
He was one of the guests last night at our Long Room end of season dinner in the County Room.
As we all made our way home at around 11.15 pm last night, John was standing on his own on the top of stand in front of the old scoreboard he gazing across the ground towards the Old Pavillion, the ground and the OP mostly in the darkness, but I can imagine he was seeing at lot more than we could.
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He was one of the guests last night at our Long Room end of season dinner in the County Room.
As we all made our way home at around 11.15 pm last night, John was standing on his own on the top of stand in front of the old scoreboard he gazing across the ground towards the Old Pavillion, the ground and the OP mostly in the darkness, but I can imagine he was seeing at lot more than we could.
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They haven't lost any time, throughout today there have been lorries coming and going bringing several metal containers into car park, half the car park is fenced off.
You were lucky, Roger, to observe a rather special moment.
I would like to propose a special assignment for Mike in the weeks ahead, namely to steal into the ground after dark and drive the wrecking equipment to Priory Bridge Road and demolish that hideous Viridor building, beside which even the Caddyshack has some charm.
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I would like to propose a special assignment for Mike in the weeks ahead, namely to steal into the ground after dark and drive the wrecking equipment to Priory Bridge Road and demolish that hideous Viridor building, beside which even the Caddyshack has some charm.
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Wasn't there an original plan for more than one of the Viridor prison blocks?
Quote:AGod
The Club employs a "Chaplain"?
What on earth for?
Coming from a god, your post smacks of jealousy. Did you perhaps covet the job? Let us pray that the sins of the father are not visited on the son.
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Do not most first class clubs have a "Club Chaplain"?
Do a search on Google and see how widespread it is in sport.
Do a search on Google and see how widespread it is in sport.
Perhaps there is one among us who would volunteer to be a chaplain for this site, ministering to us in our most contumacious and intractable disputes. A certain prolific contributor would have to be ruled out on the grounds of his existing divine status.
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Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Regarding the Viridor building there is to be two more on that side of the river and ten on the other side of the river on the old market site; all the same height. The town council have gone mad. There ought to be a law against it but no-one seems to care. Our MP and the town politicians think it will be woderful for the town.
The seats have been taken out of the Cow Shed and the OP, the two potting sheds are gone, full steam ahead tomorrow when the heavy machinery arrives.
Did they auction any of them at the end of the Middlesex game Mike? That was the provisional plan... maybe they are storing them for a later auction if that didn't take place.
Not that I know of Grockle, the club web site did say you could buy the cinema seats £30 for two,
Are these the "chummy" seats- the ones without the arm rest between them? Or are they the Scottish Calvinist ones with arm rests that made things awkward? That could have a big effect on demand you know!
Nostalgia is a funny thing. Being asked to offer a price for one is one thing. Being given a price for two of the things (though I suppose they mostly come in pairs 'naturally') seems a different thing. Like buying a commemorative mug.
Yep they are made in two's can't be sold as a single item.
Edit for link. - [www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
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Edit for link. - [www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
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Some excellent articles and comments on this post. I sincerely hope the new pavilion once finished is seen as a worthy replacement. The Club Chaplain isn't an employee of course but a voluntary position which lends something to our cause. We are grateful for Rob's blessings and encouragement and divine intervention is not to be disregarded as we pursue our loftier aims.
Many thanks, Palairet, for drawing attention to Scyld Berry's article, which captures the essence of Somerset cricket.
I co-authored with Scyld the first match report which he had published in a national newspaper. He has come a long way since then.
I co-authored with Scyld the first match report which he had published in a national newspaper. He has come a long way since then.
If 57Deacon really believes in divine intervention (as hinted by his nom de plume), he should get Rob full time on the payroll ASAP.
Good point LoL. What a triumvirate! A god, a deacon and a parson in mufti, who needs a DOC.
Update on the redevelopment, there is no update. (not much)
This week they have been gutting out the buildings, a large skip full of rubbish can be seen.
I am told it all starts on Monday.
This week they have been gutting out the buildings, a large skip full of rubbish can be seen.
I am told it all starts on Monday.
I lost a book there in 1970, "A Four-gated City" by Doris Lessing. I wasn't enjoying it much, so if they find it, they can take it round to Oxfam or put it in the skip.
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My understanding is the club is having a time-lapse camera to record it all, a very good idea by the club.
For those of you that didn't know "Somerset County Sports" shop has moved right next to the indoor school, there is an entrance to the ground for people on foot next to the big gates
Thanks Mike. No wrecking ball yet (?)
Is there any news on the 'archaeology'? Did they find anything to set back the new build?
Incidentally - our new DOC is being interviewed on Points West on Monday.
Is there any news on the 'archaeology'? Did they find anything to set back the new build?
Incidentally - our new DOC is being interviewed on Points West on Monday.
These days you can't just knock down old building without first removing all the recyclable materials first, (wood, metal) the big machine arrived today that will do the job of knocking the buildings down.
The archaeologist have given the all clear so no hold-ups there.
I will be at the interviews with MM on Monday, maybe there will be one or two photos opportunities.
The archaeologist have given the all clear so no hold-ups there.
I will be at the interviews with MM on Monday, maybe there will be one or two photos opportunities.
This is the best I can do Tumbles.
Photos I have been trying to put on here of the redevelopment.
Two from the 3rd and two from today 6th.
One from the 3rd at the very start.
Another one from the 3rd when it all began.
Now this photo from today the 6th, the actual old Part of the Old Pavilion.
The second photo from today the 6th, it all takes time because everything is sorted in it's separate lots for recycling, metal, wood, wire and the rubbish that just gets dumped.
Photos I have been trying to put on here of the redevelopment.
Two from the 3rd and two from today 6th.
One from the 3rd at the very start.
Another one from the 3rd when it all began.
Now this photo from today the 6th, the actual old Part of the Old Pavilion.
The second photo from today the 6th, it all takes time because everything is sorted in it's separate lots for recycling, metal, wood, wire and the rubbish that just gets dumped.
Two photos from today.
The gap is getting bigger.
And from a different point of view.
The gap is getting bigger.
And from a different point of view.
Thanks Mike.
Looking at the top photo, you have to wonder how it didn't fall down years ago !
Grizzzly
Looking at the top photo, you have to wonder how it didn't fall down years ago !
Grizzzly
I have been taking to several of the men and one of them said he was up the other end removing the plasterboard when the machine was working and he said all of the building shook.
On commentary at the left hand end of the pavilion you usually knew when someone was walking up the stairs, storms were a joy as the whole thing shook and when the members decided to leave for lunch you were very aware that a number of people had got up and were leaving.
Looking at the understaging for the top floor seats one wonders why anyone in their right mind sat on them. Then again they were unaware and it was the best view.
Looking at the understaging for the top floor seats one wonders why anyone in their right mind sat on them. Then again they were unaware and it was the best view.
Photos from today.
I want you all to be brave, no tears for the passing of the Old Pavilion.
After this was pull away there was a cloud of dust, I wonder what was in the groundsmen room underneath?
How sad almost gone.
Small man or big machine!
I want you all to be brave, no tears for the passing of the Old Pavilion.
After this was pull away there was a cloud of dust, I wonder what was in the groundsmen room underneath?
How sad almost gone.
Small man or big machine!
I have been given a scorecard found on the site they are developing for the New Pavilion.
Somerset v Surrey 25th to 27th August 1902 Scorecard.
The full scorecard for the match can be found here. [cricketarchive.com]
I have also been given a Greyhound Racing fixture card for the Priory Stadium for Friday 18th July 1975.
Somerset v Surrey 25th to 27th August 1902 Scorecard.
The full scorecard for the match can be found here. [cricketarchive.com]
I have also been given a Greyhound Racing fixture card for the Priory Stadium for Friday 18th July 1975.
This is the scorecard that was on facebook yesterday, referred to by SJB above. Was ita good game, LoL?
Thanks for the photos Mike, its a shame the club haven't done this sort of thing - [www.lobstervision.tv]
No it's not the same, the one I have is seven years earlier.
Edit - still only costing 'One Penny' old money
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Edit - still only costing 'One Penny' old money
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Gosh, some wonderful names there on both sides.
Purely as a name the best must be 'Shrimp' Loosen-Gore.
I'm afraid, Shep, that the Ancient of Days is back doing his Cadbury's Milk Tray job again - his version of New Tricks.
Purely as a name the best must be 'Shrimp' Loosen-Gore.
I'm afraid, Shep, that the Ancient of Days is back doing his Cadbury's Milk Tray job again - his version of New Tricks.
On the 1909 one there was one Bill Teritt Greswell at number 10 who was another Bicknoller boy. Started with the county in 1908 and played his last game in 1933.
His family (I assume) still live in Weacombe House in the village. He passed on in 1971
His family (I assume) still live in Weacombe House in the village. He passed on in 1971
Looks like a darned good game - especially as we conceded a 44 run deficit on a puny first innings score.
Interesting that one of the Umpires, one Joseph Bean, was a mere 26 year old. According to the cricket archive link he was born in 1876 and died in 1922, aged only 45.
Looking further at his stats. it seems he was also still playing first class cricket. having played for Sussex v Lancs. only two weeks earlier.
Not sure how that worked with the ECB at the time (if there was an ECB then!).
Grizzzly
Interesting that one of the Umpires, one Joseph Bean, was a mere 26 year old. According to the cricket archive link he was born in 1876 and died in 1922, aged only 45.
Looking further at his stats. it seems he was also still playing first class cricket. having played for Sussex v Lancs. only two weeks earlier.
Not sure how that worked with the ECB at the time (if there was an ECB then!).
Grizzzly
That's it, the Old Pavilion is now completely gone, and what was remaining of the toilet block is also gone.
They are starting on demolishing the Cow Shed next week and I believe the foundation for the new pavilion.
They are starting on demolishing the Cow Shed next week and I believe the foundation for the new pavilion.
I know it is slightly out of synch because of the downtime last week but it seems sensible to put all the OP stuff in one place so I've done that and changed the title a little so that we can track the development as it happens on this thread.
Hope that is OK.
Hope that is OK.
It is good to have all this material on one thread.
I hope those ancient scorecards find their way eventually to the museum, where they will be much appreciated. It is interesting to note that no space is provided on the scorecards of the day for recording bowling figures. Bowling was largely the work of the professionals and they were probably considered less important than the lordly batsmen.
I well recall how bitterly Palairet and I complained on the day that the price of scorecards rose to one penny from their previous perfectly reasonable cost of three farthings.
As for the premature death of the youthful Mr Bean. Given his age, he almost certainly served in the war and may have incurred injuries or inhaled gas from which he never recovered.
I've just realised that the gap between that 1902 match and the first that I watched was a mere 47 years, compared with the 65 that have elapsed since. What the point of mentioning that was I have no idea; I'll have to ask nurse to explain...
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I hope those ancient scorecards find their way eventually to the museum, where they will be much appreciated. It is interesting to note that no space is provided on the scorecards of the day for recording bowling figures. Bowling was largely the work of the professionals and they were probably considered less important than the lordly batsmen.
I well recall how bitterly Palairet and I complained on the day that the price of scorecards rose to one penny from their previous perfectly reasonable cost of three farthings.
As for the premature death of the youthful Mr Bean. Given his age, he almost certainly served in the war and may have incurred injuries or inhaled gas from which he never recovered.
I've just realised that the gap between that 1902 match and the first that I watched was a mere 47 years, compared with the 65 that have elapsed since. What the point of mentioning that was I have no idea; I'll have to ask nurse to explain...
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The cowshed and the boxes over it is still there. Surely that isn't staying is it?
No Grockle, the Cow Shed is coming down as soon as the Old Pavilion area is cleared ready for the next team of workers to start on the foundations for the new pavilion at the far end.
Watch out they don't head for your house next, Mike.
By the way that hideous thing with the long claw would make an excellent third slip.
By the way that hideous thing with the long claw would make an excellent third slip.
Presumably they have to let the archaeologists dig under where the pavilion and cow shed stood before building starts. I hope so. They might find my penny farting, which I left at the back in 96.
The reason I know what is happening is that I ask a lot of questions. My grandma always said if you want to know something just ask.
The Cow Shed is on it's way out.
The Cow Shed is on it's way out.
LOL. did you mean your typo in your last post as it made my inner school boy laugh.
"They might find my penny farting, which I left at the back in 96."
Unless it was stupendous fart, LOL it must have gone by now. Maybe however it was stupendous and was the reason for the demolition.
Unless it was stupendous fart, LOL it must have gone by now. Maybe however it was stupendous and was the reason for the demolition.
The JCW gates and one of the posts is being removed today to make a wider entrance ready for the larger lorries to get into the ground.
I must stop dropping my h's...
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I recalled seeing the following tribute to the Old Pavilion in verse form, and which featured in a booklet titled "On Kilve's Delightful Shore" by Frank Stevens.
I trust that there will be no objection to me copying it onto here.
Bear in mind the fact that it was written in 1980, and enjoy as indeed I did.
Salute to the Old Pavilion – 1980
"In the middle of Taunton, there is a sign which always makes me glad
Glad to be alive and well….if just a trifle mad
“County Cricket Ground” it says, pointing out the way
Which I shall take with a singing heart, and a glow inside, next May.
Yesterday, in the gloom and rain, I drove past this lovely sign,
And into St. James’s Car Park in that ancient car of mine.
The sky was sheer November, the time was just eleven
When I looked above the car park wall….and caught my glimpse of heaven.
There, lighting up the dreary scene, and bringing joy to me,
Was the loveliest sight on such a day as you could wish to see….
The County Ground Pavilion, the old one so many love,
Lifting its roof above the seats, up into the clouds above.
Pavilion from which I’ve often watched the greatest of our race,
Hobbs making his golden century, which equalled the record of Grace;
That was in 1925, and on that sun drenched day
Fender made 60, MacBryan a ton in his own immaculate way.
And other giants of the past come back into my mind.
Somerset men come first of course, whose spirits haunt this shrine.
John Daniell, P.R. Johnson, Bridges, Tom Young and J.C. White,
M.D. Lyon, Robertson – Glasgow, and Guy Earle, that man of might.
And so the tale continues. Of “enemies” I could tell,
MacDonald of Lancs., Woolley of Kent, Sutcliffe and Holmes as well,
Hendren and Hearne who once I saw batting for half a day,
Verity, Larwood and Ken Farnes, bowlers most hard to play.
And later, those early post – war years let us not neglect.
When the flashing blade of Gimblett was a sight we’ll not forget,
The bowling of Andrews and Wellard, of Hazell and Bertie Buse,
While Wellard’s mighty sixes clove the sky when he cut loose.
I’m glad to have these memories, and many, many more.
It’s good to be able to look behind, but also look before;
And now on this November night, as I think upon this theme,
I look ahead and thank the fates that gave us our present team.
Botham the great all – rounder, already compared to Grace,
Rose, the elegant batsman, with the captain’s inscrutable face;
Richards the king, beyond compare; Garner the batsman’s doom
Denning and Roebuck, Taylor, Marks, and Dredge that demon from Frome.
And so today when I see that sign, I still feel young and glad,
Glad to be alive and well, if just a little mad.
“County Cricket Ground” it says, pointing out the way,
Which I shall take with a singing heart, and a glow inside, next May."
Frank H. Stevens – November, 1980.
I trust that there will be no objection to me copying it onto here.
Bear in mind the fact that it was written in 1980, and enjoy as indeed I did.
Salute to the Old Pavilion – 1980
"In the middle of Taunton, there is a sign which always makes me glad
Glad to be alive and well….if just a trifle mad
“County Cricket Ground” it says, pointing out the way
Which I shall take with a singing heart, and a glow inside, next May.
Yesterday, in the gloom and rain, I drove past this lovely sign,
And into St. James’s Car Park in that ancient car of mine.
The sky was sheer November, the time was just eleven
When I looked above the car park wall….and caught my glimpse of heaven.
There, lighting up the dreary scene, and bringing joy to me,
Was the loveliest sight on such a day as you could wish to see….
The County Ground Pavilion, the old one so many love,
Lifting its roof above the seats, up into the clouds above.
Pavilion from which I’ve often watched the greatest of our race,
Hobbs making his golden century, which equalled the record of Grace;
That was in 1925, and on that sun drenched day
Fender made 60, MacBryan a ton in his own immaculate way.
And other giants of the past come back into my mind.
Somerset men come first of course, whose spirits haunt this shrine.
John Daniell, P.R. Johnson, Bridges, Tom Young and J.C. White,
M.D. Lyon, Robertson – Glasgow, and Guy Earle, that man of might.
And so the tale continues. Of “enemies” I could tell,
MacDonald of Lancs., Woolley of Kent, Sutcliffe and Holmes as well,
Hendren and Hearne who once I saw batting for half a day,
Verity, Larwood and Ken Farnes, bowlers most hard to play.
And later, those early post – war years let us not neglect.
When the flashing blade of Gimblett was a sight we’ll not forget,
The bowling of Andrews and Wellard, of Hazell and Bertie Buse,
While Wellard’s mighty sixes clove the sky when he cut loose.
I’m glad to have these memories, and many, many more.
It’s good to be able to look behind, but also look before;
And now on this November night, as I think upon this theme,
I look ahead and thank the fates that gave us our present team.
Botham the great all – rounder, already compared to Grace,
Rose, the elegant batsman, with the captain’s inscrutable face;
Richards the king, beyond compare; Garner the batsman’s doom
Denning and Roebuck, Taylor, Marks, and Dredge that demon from Frome.
And so today when I see that sign, I still feel young and glad,
Glad to be alive and well, if just a little mad.
“County Cricket Ground” it says, pointing out the way,
Which I shall take with a singing heart, and a glow inside, next May."
Frank H. Stevens – November, 1980.
Wonderful Palairet!
Hope the Club see it and put a framed copy in the New Pavilion (whatever its new name).
Hope the Club see it and put a framed copy in the New Pavilion (whatever its new name).
Yes, thankyou Palairet.
A lovely piece which clearly comes straight from the heart.
A lovely piece which clearly comes straight from the heart.
That Penny packs a punch, doesn't she?
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And alas, as well as the Old Pavilion, the Old Indoor Cricket School (more recently the shop) has been razed to the ground.
I have fond memories of dear old Bill Andrews and other Somerset professionals holding coaching sessions in there.
It was built in the 1950's and funded by the Supporters Club.
I have fond memories of dear old Bill Andrews and other Somerset professionals holding coaching sessions in there.
It was built in the 1950's and funded by the Supporters Club.
Thanks Mike.
I hope the changes to the J C White gates are made permanent. It would ease traffic congestion at the end of matches as well as make it far easier for large vehicles to enter/exit the ground.
I hope the changes to the J C White gates are made permanent. It would ease traffic congestion at the end of matches as well as make it far easier for large vehicles to enter/exit the ground.
I think Somerset will take the opportunity to make the entrance wider now that the gates and one of the one of the post has been removed.
If they don't they will have missed a great opportunity to do so.
If they don't they will have missed a great opportunity to do so.
Yep CP - but small beer compared to the rest of the project.
It would be bit of an own goal not to make them wider - with vehicles like the Sky trucks visiting for use of the new media centre. And hopes of one day international cricket.
The entrance really does need to be two vehicles' width as cars and other traffic are stopped on the road outside when a vehicle is halted by another exiting the ground! I would have expected the planning consent to have addressed this!
It would be bit of an own goal not to make them wider - with vehicles like the Sky trucks visiting for use of the new media centre. And hopes of one day international cricket.
The entrance really does need to be two vehicles' width as cars and other traffic are stopped on the road outside when a vehicle is halted by another exiting the ground! I would have expected the planning consent to have addressed this!
Thanks for the photo Mike.
So, how will the PA announcer describe the start of play next season ?
"Alfonso Thomas to open the bowling, from the ??????? end".
"Building site end" ?
"Former old Pavillion end" ?
"St James Street end" ?
Suggestions on a postcard please to Guy Lavender, SCCC.
Grizzzly
So, how will the PA announcer describe the start of play next season ?
"Alfonso Thomas to open the bowling, from the ??????? end".
"Building site end" ?
"Former old Pavillion end" ?
"St James Street end" ?
Suggestions on a postcard please to Guy Lavender, SCCC.
Grizzzly
Agreed Sloop John B but as the J C White gates were not only dedicated to that very fine cricketer, but also officially opened by his late widow, I would hate to think that they would simply be destined for the nearest scrap metal yard.
Perhaps any replacement and therefore wider gates could also bear his name and be re - dedicated?
Perhaps any replacement and therefore wider gates could also bear his name and be re - dedicated?
Alfonso Thomas will open the bowling from the Mike the Lens end...
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I do hope it is not going to be from 'The expensive end' I think it will be.
The media centre end.
The media centre end.
Yes CP - I would expect they would simply replace with larger JCW dedicated gates!
They might well add a further frame onto each of the existing gates, would be a shame to see the present metal melted down.
Whatever we do, we must avoid a Gategate scandal.
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Would not have thought they were listed Mike,But I am sure that Highways and TD planning would like to see improvements made to the vehicle entrance, particularly with the ground capacity being increased.
The latest photo from today, you would believe the thickness of the foundation removed from under where the shop corner was.
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Jack White gates
Brian Rose gates
Joel Garner gates
Viv Richards gates
Tractor: what about Bill?
Mike: Do you know if the archaelogists are to be allowed to look at what lies under the demolished Old Pavilion?
Mike or an attempt to keep dust down.
Keeping the dust down.
Mike: Do you know if the archaeologist's are to be allowed to look at what lies under the demolished Old Pavilion
I don't think there will a problem, they were happy with what they found before and have a good idea what is under the old pavilion. I did ask if they has found anything yet they said no.
Keeping the dust down.
Mike: Do you know if the archaeologist's are to be allowed to look at what lies under the demolished Old Pavilion
I don't think there will a problem, they were happy with what they found before and have a good idea what is under the old pavilion. I did ask if they has found anything yet they said no.
Interesting time lapse video of the demolition and a very late press release about the scorecard floating about the official site at the moment
The removal of the old foundations has been completed and lorry loads of stone have been arriving on site.
The pulveriser (if that's what it is called) will be arriving to turn that big mountain of rubble into reusable chipping.
The pulveriser (if that's what it is called) will be arriving to turn that big mountain of rubble into reusable chipping.
That seems to be a different scorecard. The one we examined before was Somerset v Surrey.
Yes Bobstan, I have a different scorecard mine is from 1902, I would have loved to get one the 1800's.
The 1909 one was the one discussed on Somerset's FB account about two weeks ago.
Ah, right.
Yes, a 19th Century card would have been terrific, Mike. An Edwardian one is pretty damned good though. Two years older and it would have been Victorian - she died in January, 1901, so it would have needed to be from the 1900 season.
Yes, a 19th Century card would have been terrific, Mike. An Edwardian one is pretty damned good though. Two years older and it would have been Victorian - she died in January, 1901, so it would have needed to be from the 1900 season.
... and how sad we all were.
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SCCC score only CIV for X again, Marcus Trescothicus LXII. Caesar (Surrey and Somerset) takes VII for XXXVIII.
No wonder we needed a new scoreboard.
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No wonder we needed a new scoreboard.
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The latest photos on the 23rd October 2014
The site is cleared of the old foundations.
They are now making mincemeat out of it.
The site is cleared of the old foundations.
They are now making mincemeat out of it.
She was a wicked old woman. Before that she was a wicked young woman. Well, a truly dreadful parent anyhow. It is the Queen Vic of whom I speak.
None of your republican heresy here, Bobstan. Come round to the pub with me and we'll do it properly. We'll invite BJ to ensure moderation (and buy the drinks).
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This is one of your better ideas, LoL. In fact this is one of your ideas.
Is BJ the Moderator of the Free Church of Wales?
Is BJ the Moderator of the Free Church of Wales?
Glad I've had an idea, Bobstan. Such things seem to happen on very rare occasions.
BJ is also the Bishop of Basingstoke.
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BJ is also the Bishop of Basingstoke.
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To answer your earlier question LoL.
It looks like what ever is/was under the Old Pavilion is staying there undisturbed, they are not going down very far for the foundations they have been rolling rubble onto the top of the ground.
I should imagine that they will pile instead.
It looks like what ever is/was under the Old Pavilion is staying there undisturbed, they are not going down very far for the foundations they have been rolling rubble onto the top of the ground.
I should imagine that they will pile instead.
Thanks, Mike.
It seems I shall never retrieve my monocle now.
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It seems I shall never retrieve my monocle now.
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The latest from today, this photo shows that they are not going to disturb whatever maybe under the Old Pavilion.
The piles will start to be installed very soon, men are making the reinforcing frames for the piles.
The piling starts tomorrow they hope to do twenty piles a day lasting five days.
With new membership becoming available next week I was wondering whether any information has been discussed , either at Local AGM level or through hearsay , as to what membership seating will be available throughout the new pavillion . Also will there be two separate long room packages,specific to one side of the ground or the other, or availability to go between the two.
I believe that, to start with anyway, it will be as little as £950 per season to join the great and the good, suitably suited unlike the Long Room dress code, in the posh part of the new pavilion.
Not good news for next years membership subscriptions either if the Long Room membership for 2015 is anything to go by. That is increased by 8.6%. Low inflation? What low inflation?
And in an error in sending out the wrong membership renewal forms it seems that business members of the Long Room pay 25% less than "ordinary" members. And, of course, they can reclaim VAT on what they do pay. All for one, and one for all? I suppose we shall be hearing all that stuff at the AGM about how we are a members club and how important we all are.
Not good news for next years membership subscriptions either if the Long Room membership for 2015 is anything to go by. That is increased by 8.6%. Low inflation? What low inflation?
And in an error in sending out the wrong membership renewal forms it seems that business members of the Long Room pay 25% less than "ordinary" members. And, of course, they can reclaim VAT on what they do pay. All for one, and one for all? I suppose we shall be hearing all that stuff at the AGM about how we are a members club and how important we all are.
Interesting Cricketharris, but can you clarify please, are you saying Platinum business LR membership is cheaper than individual Platinum LR membership by 25% if so for how many do you have to buy to get that reduction?.
Platinum Membership covering all matches.
Championship being CC games only.
Platinum LR Membership for 2015 is being offered at £630 including VAT, for 2014 it was £600 including VAT. Which is a 5% increase for next season.
You can also purchase Championship only LR Membership.
Life Members can also upgrade to either to Platinum or Championship only.
And then of course for next year you can opt for the three year upfront deal, which is
1 year Platinum LR membership and two years for the 1875 club (Somerset Pavilion).
Platinum Membership covering all matches.
Championship being CC games only.
Platinum LR Membership for 2015 is being offered at £630 including VAT, for 2014 it was £600 including VAT. Which is a 5% increase for next season.
You can also purchase Championship only LR Membership.
Life Members can also upgrade to either to Platinum or Championship only.
And then of course for next year you can opt for the three year upfront deal, which is
1 year Platinum LR membership and two years for the 1875 club (Somerset Pavilion).
My Championship Long Room membership has gone up from £151 to £164 (8.6%)
The origional "wrong" letter sent out said membership would be £101 + VAT which I take to be for businesses as there is no reason to put the figure "+ VAT" otherwise.
The origional "wrong" letter sent out said membership would be £101 + VAT which I take to be for businesses as there is no reason to put the figure "+ VAT" otherwise.
I take it you must be a Life Member then Cricketharris, with an upgrade to L R Championship.
Not sure why the club would give 25% discount to a business member, when I understand last year they had a waiting list of over 30 people wanting platinum membership at full price.
Might well have been a typing error, but why not question the club on the matter.
I do wish I had taken up Life Membership, when it was available, but work & family commitments just did not give me the time to watch much live cricket back then.
Not sure why the club would give 25% discount to a business member, when I understand last year they had a waiting list of over 30 people wanting platinum membership at full price.
Might well have been a typing error, but why not question the club on the matter.
I do wish I had taken up Life Membership, when it was available, but work & family commitments just did not give me the time to watch much live cricket back then.
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The piling starts tomorrow they hope to do twenty piles a day lasting five days.
Probably using the same kit that was finished with at Ashton Gate a couple of weeks ago. They managed to get through the piling up here a week ahead of schedule so 5 days is realistic.
Unless they have more problems like Friday when they had a blockage in the pipe delivering the concrete to the drilling machine. I was told this morning they are having to drill down 14.5 metres before they hit solid ground.
The local residents, particularly those in the Almshouses and Pegasus Heights, must be somewhat disturbed by the works.
Not by noise, there isn't much noise from the drilling machine.
It looks like they are late finishing what should have taken only five days.
It looks like they are late finishing what should have taken only five days.
The piling has finished, they are packing up their equipment this morning.
Lets change the subject, the footings were being dug today, and a lorry load of reinforcing steelwork arrived.
There must be something on at the ground today, you wouldn't believe the number of car that tried to drive into the building site driving past a sign that says 'Danger Keep Out'.
I hate to spoil things for you, Mike, but they're all turning up for a surprise party to celebrate your birthday, the surprise being that it is not actually your birthday.
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Congratulations, Mike. I had one of those in the distant past and believe that I still live to tell the tale.
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Not much to report or photograph at the moment on this thread, a lot of trenches being dug for the foundations the reinforcing cages being put in the trenches reading for the concrete to be poured.
Not much in the way of photos for a while but I managed to take some photos today of the foundations being prepared.
A lot of work was needed to be done before the concrete arrives.
You can see the slight curve in the foundations that the pavilion will take to follow the curve in the boundary.
Tomorrow and next Tuesday they are starting to pour the concrete for the foundations, this will give it time over the Christmas period to go off ready for the steelwork to start going up in the new year.
A lot of work was needed to be done before the concrete arrives.
You can see the slight curve in the foundations that the pavilion will take to follow the curve in the boundary.
Tomorrow and next Tuesday they are starting to pour the concrete for the foundations, this will give it time over the Christmas period to go off ready for the steelwork to start going up in the new year.
The pouring of concrete started on time very ealy this morning.
The machine that pumps the concrete where it is needed.
The last lorry load of today being distributed where it is needed for the foundation.
The machine that pumps the concrete where it is needed.
The last lorry load of today being distributed where it is needed for the foundation.
Thankyou for keeping us all updated, Mike.
I think that you will soon be heading for a degree in Building Construction and Civil Engineering.
I think that you will soon be heading for a degree in Building Construction and Civil Engineering.
It is all very interesting to watch, luckily the weather (rain) held off today (almost) several of my photos were spoilt with spots of rain getting on the lens.
Thanks, Mike. Although I shall be a very infrequent visitor, it's nice to keep tabs on what's happening.
You are welcome Botham, I have an advantage not many people have living close to the ground.
Lets hope they have a better supplier of steel that Bristol Sport - a 4 week delay at one point.
I have just enjoyed reading the Almanac, another excellent SCCC production. It includes an affectionate article by Scyld Berry about the county ground, reprinted from The Telegraph, which I think Wickham drew to our attention when it was first published. In it he mentions the lack of atmosphere in the press boxes at some grounds, including Lord's, because all the windows are sealed. (Happily the TMS team at Lord's can operate their own windows).
What will be the situation in our new pavilion in what I think I am now supposed to call a media centre?
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What will be the situation in our new pavilion in what I think I am now supposed to call a media centre?
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Looking at the picture of the media centre design,it looks like each sheet of glass goes to the floor, so I imagine health and safety requirements would not allow them to open.
Saying that I think what the Media wanted, the Media got in this design.
Looking at the picture of the media centre design,it looks like each sheet of glass goes to the floor, so I imagine health and safety requirements would not allow them to open.
Saying that I think what the Media wanted, the Media got in this design.
If I can't hear Tractor during radio commentary, how do I know that any play is actually taking place?
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Sky would surely have an input into the Camera sight lines requirements plus balcony and media room requirement Grockle.
I was certainly not saying anything wrong in this, but the Media area will have the prime position.
LoL, perhaps the development will include a sound effect mike's.
I was certainly not saying anything wrong in this, but the Media area will have the prime position.
LoL, perhaps the development will include a sound effect mike's.
I'm not sure SKY had a say in the last 'Media' provision and the BBC never got near the 'better' facilities downstairs even when not being used, preferring the shed on the roof.
Certainly I know of nobody asking the local press about their requirements - but that doesn't mean they weren't consulted, though I expect the facilities to be better than those in the old box.
If SKY aren't happy they just provide their own as they did for some time around the Botham Stand.
It will all be interesting when they are finally unveiled.
Certainly I know of nobody asking the local press about their requirements - but that doesn't mean they weren't consulted, though I expect the facilities to be better than those in the old box.
If SKY aren't happy they just provide their own as they did for some time around the Botham Stand.
It will all be interesting when they are finally unveiled.
It's all happening on site this morning.
Various kinds on machinery has arrived and a lorry load of steel-work (painted in the Somerset colour), so by the end of the day I expect to see some of the steel-work in place.
Various kinds on machinery has arrived and a lorry load of steel-work (painted in the Somerset colour), so by the end of the day I expect to see some of the steel-work in place.
Aren't you glad you had that new set of Lego for Christmas, Mike, or are you, like me, more of a Meccano man?
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We are two of a find LoL, even though my parents couldn't afford much when I was young they did buy me a Meccano set, this was added to over the years to make a large set in the end. None of this modern plastic rubbish it was metal and painted green, those were the days.
The light was so bad in the afternoon today that I was unable to take any photo, I will try tomorrow.
Apart from the first load of steel-work painted in burgundy a second load arrived galvanised, by the end of the day the framework of the new pavilion has started to take shape.
Apart from the first load of steel-work painted in burgundy a second load arrived galvanised, by the end of the day the framework of the new pavilion has started to take shape.
No it is not, Mike.
It keeps us very much informed of how things are progressing.
Once again, many thanks.
Someone from the club has posted a PIC of the erected steel on the Club's Faceb9ok page.
I just had a look John, that photo was taken earlier in the day there's quite a few more up my the end of the day even some of the galvanised ones.
I am posting this photo to go with a story I have to tell.
You can all see the cones and the sign “Danger Keep Out” just out of sight are double gates this is so lorries can get in off the road so as not to block the road, these gates are locked overnight.
Here is the story.
You wouldn't believe how many car drivers everyday drive past the cones and sign trying to enter the building site. I said to the site manager that people are still trying to drive in this morning.
He said just before Christmas a women driver opened one of the gates and parked her car on the building site over by the players flats. When she return to her car she was asked what was she doing parking on the site when the gates were closed, her reply was “I had an hair appointment and couldn't find anywhere in the town to park.
You can all see the cones and the sign “Danger Keep Out” just out of sight are double gates this is so lorries can get in off the road so as not to block the road, these gates are locked overnight.
Here is the story.
You wouldn't believe how many car drivers everyday drive past the cones and sign trying to enter the building site. I said to the site manager that people are still trying to drive in this morning.
He said just before Christmas a women driver opened one of the gates and parked her car on the building site over by the players flats. When she return to her car she was asked what was she doing parking on the site when the gates were closed, her reply was “I had an hair appointment and couldn't find anywhere in the town to park.
I may be able to take some photos soon, it has been raining slightly all morning until now, with the sky clearing the sun should be out soon.
The latest photo taken today.
The steel-work is almost has high as the old pavilion already.
The steel-work is almost has high as the old pavilion already.
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“I had an hair appointment and couldn't find anywhere in the town to park.
What a priceless response. I don't think the great Brian Close could have got away with that one.
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Since I took that last photo (yesterday) they have added more steel-work into the car park side of the building, it now is showing how much bigger that the Old Pavilion it is going to be.
It is looking a very deep building.
One concern I have (although my view is from a distance) is the walkway around the building where the old men's toilets were, previously there was a bottleneck there at the end of a match when people are walking in both directions. I hope I am wrong I can't imagine what it is going to be like at the end of a match with eleven thousand in attendance.
It is looking a very deep building.
One concern I have (although my view is from a distance) is the walkway around the building where the old men's toilets were, previously there was a bottleneck there at the end of a match when people are walking in both directions. I hope I am wrong I can't imagine what it is going to be like at the end of a match with eleven thousand in attendance.
Mike TA1
Looking at the plans it shows a secure gate coming off the Church wall and joining the New Pavilion, the area of the old Toilets is shown as a service area.
It seems you might have to go the long way round to get to Gimblett Hill.
see here
The whole structure looks deeper but certainly not as long as the previous buildings,
I.E. Midway in line with the Ticket kiosks.
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Looking at the plans it shows a secure gate coming off the Church wall and joining the New Pavilion, the area of the old Toilets is shown as a service area.
It seems you might have to go the long way round to get to Gimblett Hill.
see here
The whole structure looks deeper but certainly not as long as the previous buildings,
I.E. Midway in line with the Ticket kiosks.
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Well there's a walkway across the top of the front seating Mike but I can't see a path through to the Gimblett. Just to the secure gate. Not sure what the point of the outside seating in the car park is - a view of cars is not all that popular for cricket fans but who knows.
The non members path seems to be the normal one but right around the back of the pavilion through the area that used to be the toilets. Again though, not sure how you get from the secure gate to the Hill.
The non members path seems to be the normal one but right around the back of the pavilion through the area that used to be the toilets. Again though, not sure how you get from the secure gate to the Hill.
Thanks Roger.
I can see that the service area is bigger they have the steel-work in place already it's the corner of the brick wall next to it I was thinking of. There may be more space than I think, we will see.
I can see that the service area is bigger they have the steel-work in place already it's the corner of the brick wall next to it I was thinking of. There may be more space than I think, we will see.
I have just read your post Grockle, the pathway you refer to would be the yellow area?
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One concern I have (although my view is from a distance) is the walkway around the building where the old men's toilets were,
Presumably, Mike, you and I were entitled to use them, while young chaps like Tractor tended to use those under the Somereset Pavilion.
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The latest photos from today.
In the first photo the pavilion was not far below the height of the old pavilion, in the last two it has now gone higher.
In the first photo the pavilion was not far below the height of the old pavilion, in the last two it has now gone higher.
The first concrete delivery arrived yesterday morning for the front rows of seats.
The sun is shining a better day for taking photos.
The latest from today, it looks like most if not all of the main steel-work is completed.
You can see the lift shaft on the right and the supports for the roof(?) just behind.
The latest from today, it looks like most if not all of the main steel-work is completed.
You can see the lift shaft on the right and the supports for the roof(?) just behind.
Today.
Another big crane has arrived and they have started laying the concrete flooring.
Another big crane has arrived and they have started laying the concrete flooring.
The latest photo taken today.
A section of the concrete floor being lowered into place.
A section of the concrete floor being lowered into place.
Just wanted to thank everyone and Mike in partuicular for all these updates and pictures. For people like me who hardly see Taunton out of season its great to get a view of the build as it happens.
I have only been to the ground in daylight once since the last day of the home season and the farewell to the OP - one day in early January, driving to the ground past the Princess Royal and being able to see the ITB stand was really odd.
The club haven't been anything like as good at keeping us posted with the development but they did tweet quite a good picture today
[twitter.com]
Far too late to suggest now but it would have been great to have a fixed camera position on top of the flats taking time lapse pictures that they could have put together at the end of the build.
I have only been to the ground in daylight once since the last day of the home season and the farewell to the OP - one day in early January, driving to the ground past the Princess Royal and being able to see the ITB stand was really odd.
The club haven't been anything like as good at keeping us posted with the development but they did tweet quite a good picture today
[twitter.com]
Far too late to suggest now but it would have been great to have a fixed camera position on top of the flats taking time lapse pictures that they could have put together at the end of the build.
Sally had that photo on her phone she must have taken it, time lapse photos were being taken from the Botham Stand last year, I don't know if it is still being done!
Just to let you know the concrete flooring on the first and second floor is now complete, the steel constructors return this week to add more steel-work both ends, plus the galvanised support for the roof will be made longer.
Photo taken today.
Well it is still going up (literally) the media centre is now being built, I don't envy those men that high up in the strong wind to day.
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Well it is still going up (literally) the media centre is now being built, I don't envy those men that high up in the strong wind to day.
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The latest photo from today.
The steel work for the upper tier seating is almost complete.
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The steel work for the upper tier seating is almost complete.
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This is the photo for the above post, I have tried to edit the above post and when I did it edited the post above it. very odd.
Looking at the top tier of seating I would think if you were to sit anywhere other than at the front you wouldn't see the outfield nearest to the pavilion. So I wouldn't rush to sit on that top tier to watch a match unless it is at the front.
I don't like it if I can't see if the ball has gone for a four or the batsman has been caught on the boundary.
We get that on the Gimblett's Hill when sometimes the sight screen is part way in front of it, and also the groundsmen nearly always leave the blotter parked by the covers.
I don't like it if I can't see if the ball has gone for a four or the batsman has been caught on the boundary.
We get that on the Gimblett's Hill when sometimes the sight screen is part way in front of it, and also the groundsmen nearly always leave the blotter parked by the covers.
I trust the Welsh journalist (Richard Bevan) will be carefully instructed where to sit when Trego is batting.
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May I suggest, MikeTA1, that you take some photographs from across the ground, say from the Colin Atkinson Pavilion, so viewers can judge the full enormity of the monstrosity?
For those who haven't seen the final design, click on the bottom pictures to enlarge. [www.ledarchitects.co.uk]
Are they going to put a 4 by 6 bit on top of the Media section for the BBC to replace the shed or are they expecting them to "slum in" with the rest in the actual building?
Grockle the plans as per TD Planning show a room for the Scorers(4) plus 1 PA, a room for Radio (4), and a room for Media (20) as per Mike's photo top right
You can now walk up stairs to each floor, they have been fitted both ends of the pavilion today.
Thanks Mike & wsm.
So, who is to be the first batsman to put a six over the roof of the highest part of the new stand ?
Odds on Allenby ?
Grizzzly
So, who is to be the first batsman to put a six over the roof of the highest part of the new stand ?
Odds on Allenby ?
Grizzzly
Yesterday they began fitting the seating support in front of what will be the millionaires row (first floor).
Work is well on it's way in laying the pipe-work for the drainage, they have also started some of the block work.
Work is well on it's way in laying the pipe-work for the drainage, they have also started some of the block work.
Would I be correct in thinking that things arguably look as though they might be AHEAD of schedule?
I didn't think that ever happened with construction projects?
I didn't think that ever happened with construction projects?
You are using too many engineering and construction terms Mike. Either you are talking to too many builders or you had/have a secret career!!
The latest photo from today.
I notice last week the crane was having trouble lifting the materials over the roof for the tiered seating, so the heavy artillery has arrived this morning to do the job.
I notice last week the crane was having trouble lifting the materials over the roof for the tiered seating, so the heavy artillery has arrived this morning to do the job.
Should hang a church bell from the end of that and see if Tregs can hit it.
Good place for Sky's aerial camera to dangle from the end of that !
Grizzzly
Grizzzly
Andy Nash has posted some shots on Twitter from the top of the new stand. Glorious views over the ground and distant Quantocks!
I met AN and GL them when they were heading back to the AC pavilion after being up there, they said they could see the welsh coast. (I wonder if they could see BJ?)
Talking of BJ, Is he still alive and lurking?
Not heard from him for soooooooolong.
Not heard from him for soooooooolong.
Deepest darkest Welsh Wales would be more appropriate, though if I walk a few hundred yards out of my drive I do have a wonderful view of the Somerset coastline.
Miss you all, yes, I did say that, and hope to meet up with a few of you again this summer.
Miss you all, yes, I did say that, and hope to meet up with a few of you again this summer.
Latest photo taken today.
This large area being tarmac is where the drainage for the new pavilion was installed, most of this area will be given back to the club ready for the start of the new season.
This large area being tarmac is where the drainage for the new pavilion was installed, most of this area will be given back to the club ready for the start of the new season.
The tarmac is now completed (seen being done in the photo above), and car parking bay lines has also been done to give some extra parking for the season.
The roof of the pavilion is being put on, and some of the insulation boards for the outside walls are in place.
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The roof of the pavilion is being put on, and some of the insulation boards for the outside walls are in place.
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My informant tells me that it has been a kind winter and they are significantly further ahead with the project than they expected to be at this time.
They were working after 11.30pm one night last week.
It was a bit of a rush this week doing the tarmac to give the club extra parking space for the season, they have now put two portacabins for the Media and scorers where the Cow Shed was.
Will they have a clear view of the umpires from there?
It was a bit of a rush this week doing the tarmac to give the club extra parking space for the season, they have now put two portacabins for the Media and scorers where the Cow Shed was.
Will they have a clear view of the umpires from there?
I am sure admin. from the club would have sat down and talked about where are we going to gain extra seating lost this season due to the Old Pavilion and Cow Shed not being available for this years t20 matches.
Now they have put two portacabins where I would have thought a large stand could have been put that has taken away a lot of the space available for a large stand, I was wondering where else on the ground could extra seating could be put?
I enquired in the office I was told a stand will be put between the old scoreboard and the office, I replied a stand is normally put there for t20 matches so that will not replace any of the seating lost due to the development.
Watch this space!
Now they have put two portacabins where I would have thought a large stand could have been put that has taken away a lot of the space available for a large stand, I was wondering where else on the ground could extra seating could be put?
I enquired in the office I was told a stand will be put between the old scoreboard and the office, I replied a stand is normally put there for t20 matches so that will not replace any of the seating lost due to the development.
Watch this space!
The electronic (LED) scoreboard was being set up for the season yesterday.
Netting has been put up to protect the workmen on the building site.
Netting has been put up to protect the workmen on the building site.
Portacabins for scorers and press so I believe. Maybe they'll split one of them to put the comms in.
Photo taken four day's ago.
Since taking that photo they have added a lot more insulation boards to the walls also quite a bit of the block work has been done around the back and on the sides.
One word springs to mind - "Carbuncle".
So said a member at the Club's AGM.
So said a member at the Club's AGM.
Well it wasn't as if the plans were sprung on anyone.
We knew what it was going to look quite a while ago and I don't remember huge complaints at the time or since except for the issue of member access.
We knew what it was going to look quite a while ago and I don't remember huge complaints at the time or since except for the issue of member access.
I think it could look very good, certainly better than the Caddyshack - or anything at Uxbridge 😉
I think it is totally out of keeping with the rest of the ground. Twice as high as what it replaced so it can be seen from all over the town. Another nail in the Taunton skyline. It should have been lower (and not have the hideous roof) and could have been longer as now it seems all out of proportion. I am pleased that I have not contributed to its construction. Not a penny from me.
Maybe they could reduce the height by folding the roof down over the seats on non-match days.
Maybe they could reduce the height by knocking it down and starting again.
Hideous.
Hideous.
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Yep, I am waiting to see the finished produce before I make a judgement.
Are they going to operate a market as well?
What a shame such comments didn't appear BEFORE they started building the thing or even during the consultation process. Well never mind aye?
No one says you have to sit in it.... though sitting in it will be the only way you won't see it I suppose.
Like others have said, it's difficult to comment before the thing has its 'makeup' on when you only see pictures. I do have to say that in December I was surprised how short it was. I expected the area of it to be less compact. That space where the porta cabins are seems to be available for another temporary stand perhaps, or at least a bigger one than usual.
No one says you have to sit in it.... though sitting in it will be the only way you won't see it I suppose.
Like others have said, it's difficult to comment before the thing has its 'makeup' on when you only see pictures. I do have to say that in December I was surprised how short it was. I expected the area of it to be less compact. That space where the porta cabins are seems to be available for another temporary stand perhaps, or at least a bigger one than usual.
The size is just about what I expected, we were saying all along looking at the plans it would go about half way along the Cow Shed, being so tall seems to make it look shorter.
It will be interesting to see what the crowd capacity will be for the t20 matches this season! With the usual extra stand by the old scoreboard we will be still be short of the seating we have lost by knocking down the old pavilion and cow shed.
It will be interesting to see what the crowd capacity will be for the t20 matches this season! With the usual extra stand by the old scoreboard we will be still be short of the seating we have lost by knocking down the old pavilion and cow shed.
Yep. Gonna be a bit cramped for most of the season. One wonders what is going to take so long as the thing seems to be primarily up. Surely the cosmetics can't actually take 4 and a half months can it??
Does anyone actually believe that changes to the design would have been made if people had adversly commented on it on this site or any other?
And saying that "you don't have to sit in it" is on a par with the Club's arrogent response to a complaint about the hike in Long Room admission charges.
And saying that "you don't have to sit in it" is on a par with the Club's arrogent response to a complaint about the hike in Long Room admission charges.
One thing is for sure is the amount of under cover seating has been drastically reduced.
We are constantly told to stay out of sunlight and there is always the risk of rain but nowhere to go.
We've lost the Supporters stand and the cowshed but no covered areas to replace them.
We are constantly told to stay out of sunlight and there is always the risk of rain but nowhere to go.
We've lost the Supporters stand and the cowshed but no covered areas to replace them.
It's not an 'arrogant' statement at all CH. Just a fact.
If you don't like it (have you mentioned this before at all?) then I don't really know what to suggest other than either make your feelings known to the management when they ask (and they did) whether there's any point or not. If it is going to be an eyesore to you then you're gonna have to get used to it or simply not look at it or don't go to Taunton unless you have another solution.
Hope it doesn't spoilt your enjoyment of the cricket. I don't really think it will all that much but I'm sure you'll tell us how much it does anyway. Let's all pray the cricket played by the county in front of it takes your mind off it.
If you don't like it (have you mentioned this before at all?) then I don't really know what to suggest other than either make your feelings known to the management when they ask (and they did) whether there's any point or not. If it is going to be an eyesore to you then you're gonna have to get used to it or simply not look at it or don't go to Taunton unless you have another solution.
Hope it doesn't spoilt your enjoyment of the cricket. I don't really think it will all that much but I'm sure you'll tell us how much it does anyway. Let's all pray the cricket played by the county in front of it takes your mind off it.
My thoughts also.
The cost had a lot of say in what we could get for our money.
The cost had a lot of say in what we could get for our money.
I didn't ask for your suggestions, Grockle, and don't appreciate your sarcasm.
Really? I thought your post was directed straight at me?
Obviously misread it, apologies if that was the case. Whether you think they were sarcastic or not ...I'm not sure what other solutions there are to the problem.
If I didn't misread then I don't particularly appreciate the tone of your post either but I'm sure we'll both live with our disappointment in each other. We seem to have managed up to now.
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Obviously misread it, apologies if that was the case. Whether you think they were sarcastic or not ...I'm not sure what other solutions there are to the problem.
If I didn't misread then I don't particularly appreciate the tone of your post either but I'm sure we'll both live with our disappointment in each other. We seem to have managed up to now.
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Let's wait until it is done & then judge.
Anything that doesn't end up looking like the 'Caddybunkle' has to be an improvement over what might have been.
I reckon those in the top section will have cracking views anyway !
Grizzzly
Anything that doesn't end up looking like the 'Caddybunkle' has to be an improvement over what might have been.
I reckon those in the top section will have cracking views anyway !
Grizzzly
The higher bits might give a decent view of home on a clear day if it stands over the normal buildings in Taunton.
Never heard it called the 'Caddybunkle' Grizzz. Like it Centurion
Never heard it called the 'Caddybunkle' Grizzz. Like it Centurion
We are of one mind Rob. You do have to look at the Botham in that case but we've mostly got as used to that as is possible.
Is the new one at an angle to the pitch like all the rest?
Is the new one at an angle to the pitch like all the rest?
It is believed that the club engaged the same architect for both the Andrew Caddick Pavilion and the new stand, which is currently under construction.
With the exception of the club office, I have never entered the former, but purely from an aesthetic point of view, it does not find favour with me on account of it not blending in sympathetically with the other structures on the ground.
I have always thought that it would look more in place on an estuary somewhere, as a Yacht Club HQ.
Likewise, from an artist's impression of the completed "New Stand", would this be more suited to a minor racecourse somewhere?
At least the Colin Atkinson Pavilion (built over 30 years ago now) is aesthetically suited to a cricket ground.
Personal thoughts only, you understand.
With the exception of the club office, I have never entered the former, but purely from an aesthetic point of view, it does not find favour with me on account of it not blending in sympathetically with the other structures on the ground.
I have always thought that it would look more in place on an estuary somewhere, as a Yacht Club HQ.
Likewise, from an artist's impression of the completed "New Stand", would this be more suited to a minor racecourse somewhere?
At least the Colin Atkinson Pavilion (built over 30 years ago now) is aesthetically suited to a cricket ground.
Personal thoughts only, you understand.
If you think that the Caddick Pavilion doesn't blend in with the rest of the ground you wait till you see the new stand. You ain't seen nothing yet!
According to the announcements at todays game that side of the ground is now called The Somerset Pavilion End.
We were bowled out this morning in 18 overs losing to Gloucester by 60 runs or there abouts. Marshall scored 180 NO in their 244 for 2.
According to the announcements at todays game that side of the ground is now called The Somerset Pavilion End.
We were bowled out this morning in 18 overs losing to Gloucester by 60 runs or there abouts. Marshall scored 180 NO in their 244 for 2.
Have to agree with every word about the Caddyshack Palairet.
We had no real view of that in advance - the facilities inside are quite impressive and what the players needed but it does look (and I've mentioned this before) like it should be on Newquay Beach.
But you are going to have to get over the new place I'm afraid. There was no attempt to hide the design. It's been out there for a 12 month and NOW it seems to be some kind of mistake or error? Well it's done and we have it.
They aren't going to knock it down or go 'sorry we didn't know you didn't like it. Please tell us what you don't like'. You may believe that anything at the time of consultation would have had no effect but the consultation process was offered and (I believe) you CH didn't take the opportunity to find out what effect your words would have had.
So.... moan all you like Mr Harris. The stable door is open and the horse has bolted. As Rob has suggested, you'll have to sit in it to not see it and we "haven't seen anything yet" but we will be seeing it for a decade or more so it's a case of..... suck it up old boy.
I personally don't know if you're right or wrong because, like many others, I'm willing to wait until the thing is finished before passing critical judgement.
Have to say.... don't like the name - massively uninventive if they just call it the 'new' big stand. Does that mean we now call the Somerset Stand the 'Old' Somerset Stand? Do me a favour. I'd assume that is a temporary name while they think of one....please.
We had no real view of that in advance - the facilities inside are quite impressive and what the players needed but it does look (and I've mentioned this before) like it should be on Newquay Beach.
But you are going to have to get over the new place I'm afraid. There was no attempt to hide the design. It's been out there for a 12 month and NOW it seems to be some kind of mistake or error? Well it's done and we have it.
They aren't going to knock it down or go 'sorry we didn't know you didn't like it. Please tell us what you don't like'. You may believe that anything at the time of consultation would have had no effect but the consultation process was offered and (I believe) you CH didn't take the opportunity to find out what effect your words would have had.
So.... moan all you like Mr Harris. The stable door is open and the horse has bolted. As Rob has suggested, you'll have to sit in it to not see it and we "haven't seen anything yet" but we will be seeing it for a decade or more so it's a case of..... suck it up old boy.
I personally don't know if you're right or wrong because, like many others, I'm willing to wait until the thing is finished before passing critical judgement.
Have to say.... don't like the name - massively uninventive if they just call it the 'new' big stand. Does that mean we now call the Somerset Stand the 'Old' Somerset Stand? Do me a favour. I'd assume that is a temporary name while they think of one....please.
I have seen the new stand, Cricketharris, albeit a few weeks ago, and there are plenty of up - to - date photographs supplied by Mike on here.
Taunton must be unique in now having 4 named Pavilions on the ground - only one of them having changing facilities within as far as I am aware.
Taunton must be unique in now having 4 named Pavilions on the ground - only one of them having changing facilities within as far as I am aware.
I have said before that the Caddick monstrosity resembles those hotels one encounters on airport roads in developing countries where rooms can be rented by the hour, presumably for tutorials - I can think of no other purpose...
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There is a Somerset Stand (under the Pegusus apartments) and now a Somerset Pavilion. Hope this helps your confusion, Mr Grockle.
At least the NEW Pavilion has not been given a Corporate or Sponsors name I.E. The Thatchers Pavilion, or The Kukri Pavillion.
Actually I am happy with it being called the Somerset Pavilion, mainly because it's what the club is and represents.
Actually I am happy with it being called the Somerset Pavilion, mainly because it's what the club is and represents.
Just seems uninventive to call everything the 'Somerset' this and that.
Ref the 'pavilions'...is the Ondaatje a Pavilion? If it is then there are two with changing facilities.
Ref the 'pavilions'...is the Ondaatje a Pavilion? If it is then there are two with changing facilities.
The "Ondaatje" is designated a 'Pavilion' and is clearly denoted as that on its external wall.
Are there changing facilities within, or or you referring to the Cricket School of Excellence which adjoins the "Ondaatje"?
Colin Atkinson, Botham, Trescothick and Andrew Caddick have all had structures on the ground named after them (as of course are various sets of gates into the ground), so I feel that the newest pavilion should be dedicated to Sammy Woods - one of the first pioneers and folk hero of Somerset CCC.
Alas, I knew him well.
Are there changing facilities within, or or you referring to the Cricket School of Excellence which adjoins the "Ondaatje"?
Colin Atkinson, Botham, Trescothick and Andrew Caddick have all had structures on the ground named after them (as of course are various sets of gates into the ground), so I feel that the newest pavilion should be dedicated to Sammy Woods - one of the first pioneers and folk hero of Somerset CCC.
Alas, I knew him well.
If the club showed that amount of respect for his performances then it might prompt the Council to show as much respect for his resting place which is presently next to the path through the park across the road from the cemetery up near SCAT.
People walk past there every day and few have any idea whose tombstone they are passing. How come he is there? Was it a churchyard at some point?
People walk past there every day and few have any idea whose tombstone they are passing. How come he is there? Was it a churchyard at some point?
The Palairet Pavilion has a certain alliterative allure.
But naming it after Woods seems the right thing to do. Strongly agree with Grockle's
post of 07:10.
But naming it after Woods seems the right thing to do. Strongly agree with Grockle's
post of 07:10.
The usual temporary stand (the Somerset Temporary Stand?) is starting to be erected today.
Isn't it the 'New' Somerset Temporary Stand CH?
I do hope whatever they call the new pavilion that any bar inside it has THE one name it should have - "The Straggler's". Though I might accept "Pat's Bar".
I do hope whatever they call the new pavilion that any bar inside it has THE one name it should have - "The Straggler's". Though I might accept "Pat's Bar".
Grockle, We were told last year that the "Straggler's Bar" would be part of the New Somerset Pavilion, but I am not sure if it was to be sited within the 1875 Club and Media area or on the ground facilities open to ALL members.
I also understand also that the "1875 Club" membership pre-sell is now sold out.
I also understand also that the "1875 Club" membership pre-sell is now sold out.
Well I suppose, at least in it's later years, 'the Stragglers' wasn't open to all members either but it's return to the ground would be welcomed by those who frequented it's 'pavilion' in whatever guise it took.
Sammy Wood's grave is in St. Mary's cemetery on the road between Taunton and Wellington.
It is as you say next to the Somerset College, but has always been a cemetery, never a "park."
To add to the confusion, on the opposite side of the road lies another part of the cemetery.
According to Clifford Jiggens' book "Sammy", the Somerset County Cricket and Rugby Clubs provided a solid stone monument at the grave, which bears the simple inscription:
S.M.J. Woods
1867 - 1931
A Tribute to a Great Sportsman.
On the last occasion that I looked, it was being well - tended.
It is as you say next to the Somerset College, but has always been a cemetery, never a "park."
To add to the confusion, on the opposite side of the road lies another part of the cemetery.
According to Clifford Jiggens' book "Sammy", the Somerset County Cricket and Rugby Clubs provided a solid stone monument at the grave, which bears the simple inscription:
S.M.J. Woods
1867 - 1931
A Tribute to a Great Sportsman.
On the last occasion that I looked, it was being well - tended.
Well I walked past it for 5 years from 2003 to 2008 almost every working day on my way from the car park to SCAT and
a) While it may be classified as a cemetery, the students of the college see it and use it as a park and so did most other people. I don't think many are aware that it is an extension of the obvious cemetery across the road
b)) The stone is there and the inscription is still there but the grave? Well I assume it is pointing away from the stone but it stands at a triangle of tarmac paths around the perimeter or through the grass area and close to the main road and the bus stop.
c) This man was a double international I believe? A major sportsman in the history of the county and I always thought it was a shame that most of the people I talked to about it in the area were unaware that the stone was anything but a stone. A boundary around it and some kind of historical plaque? Would that cost huge amounts?
a) While it may be classified as a cemetery, the students of the college see it and use it as a park and so did most other people. I don't think many are aware that it is an extension of the obvious cemetery across the road
b)) The stone is there and the inscription is still there but the grave? Well I assume it is pointing away from the stone but it stands at a triangle of tarmac paths around the perimeter or through the grass area and close to the main road and the bus stop.
c) This man was a double international I believe? A major sportsman in the history of the county and I always thought it was a shame that most of the people I talked to about it in the area were unaware that the stone was anything but a stone. A boundary around it and some kind of historical plaque? Would that cost huge amounts?
Wouldn't be nice if the club asked members for suggestions for what to call the new stand. After all we are always being told we are a "members club".
The "park" next to Somerset College has been a cemetary for hundreds of years. The one on the other side of Wellington Road is its new overflow. Officially together they are St Marys Cemetary.
The "park" next to Somerset College has been a cemetary for hundreds of years. The one on the other side of Wellington Road is its new overflow. Officially together they are St Marys Cemetary.
In a general letter to Richard Gould about the state of the club and the ground I wrote the following:
Perhaps the club ran out of ideas when it came to naming the Somerset Stand, but I would like to suggest it is renamed the Woods and Wellard Stand, commemorating two of the county’s finest all-rounders, men who had in common that they both came from elsewhere but totally identified with the Somerset style of cricket, always committed to entertaining the crowd. The career of one started in the Nineteenth Century and of the other ended after the Second World War, a very large slice of our history.
I received no response to that part of my letter and feel now that the club has twice shown a sad lack of imagination and respect for our great history.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Perhaps the club ran out of ideas when it came to naming the Somerset Stand, but I would like to suggest it is renamed the Woods and Wellard Stand, commemorating two of the county’s finest all-rounders, men who had in common that they both came from elsewhere but totally identified with the Somerset style of cricket, always committed to entertaining the crowd. The career of one started in the Nineteenth Century and of the other ended after the Second World War, a very large slice of our history.
I received no response to that part of my letter and feel now that the club has twice shown a sad lack of imagination and respect for our great history.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL, I very much appreciate and agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments expressed in the section of your letter to Mr. Gould which you detailed above.
It is a great shame that the executive and committee of our club have, it would seem, no knowledge or pride in the club's long history.
I am sorry that you did not receive the courtesy of a reply.
It is a great shame that the executive and committee of our club have, it would seem, no knowledge or pride in the club's long history.
I am sorry that you did not receive the courtesy of a reply.
To be fair to Mr Gould, he DID reply very courteously to my letter, but not to that particular paragraph.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
A question to Mike: What's the situation about access to Gimblett's Hill? Are you able to get there from behind the building site or do you have to walk anti-clockwise almost right round the ground? If access is only from one end, it will at least reduce the flow of people walking in front of the benches, but how far will Tractor have to walk for his essential medicine?
Now it looks like three questions...
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Now it looks like three questions...
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I hope not LoL, but it looks like I will have to walk all around the ground with my camera bag (I may have to take less equipment), they were moving the fencing back towards the new stand this week to give a bigger boundary for cricket, the bare soil will have to be turfed.
From the club- Turning to other matters. All of the ground entrances will be open but it is worth noting that it will not be possible to circumnavigate the ground
[www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
From the club- Turning to other matters. All of the ground entrances will be open but it is worth noting that it will not be possible to circumnavigate the ground
[www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
Thanks, Mike.
I shan't be bringing my boat.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I shan't be bringing my boat.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
It might be best for the Gimblett Hillbillies to enter by the Brian Rose Gates.
Car drivers can still park in the Priory Bridge Road car park (despite the "closed" signs) and for no charge.
Car drivers can still park in the Priory Bridge Road car park (despite the "closed" signs) and for no charge.
If the Priory Bridge Car Park say's it's closed then surely it is, and not worth risking a fine of £60, or encouraging members to abuse the signage.
Cheaper legal parking available in Canal Road.
Cheaper legal parking available in Canal Road.
There was a police car parked in the car park on Saturday, the talk is they are going to start building next to that monstrosity already there.
Yes, the council have handed-over the area to developers of the houses and flats to be built there and until they do you, and the police and anyone else are able to
park there. But don't abuse the signs.
park there. But don't abuse the signs.
So parking is going to be at a premium all season then... whoopeeedoo! Think I'll get the bus in.
The big gap (or gap at least) that appears to be to the left of our new structure between it and the Ondatje pavilion.
I learnt today it will be a permanent gap, will make the ground look slightly incomplete for normal matches I'd think.
But logic is for big matches, internationals on main i'd think there is scope for a 4000 capacity stand! This may go back to St James gates & the clouds to fit in that many in!
Potential capacity then is to be 15,000! That to me would need a seat on every spare bit of concrete on the site but sure Guy and Andy have done their sums!
We also need a slight change to boundary extension infront of old scoreboard due to angle of the boundary edge there.
I learnt today it will be a permanent gap, will make the ground look slightly incomplete for normal matches I'd think.
But logic is for big matches, internationals on main i'd think there is scope for a 4000 capacity stand! This may go back to St James gates & the clouds to fit in that many in!
Potential capacity then is to be 15,000! That to me would need a seat on every spare bit of concrete on the site but sure Guy and Andy have done their sums!
We also need a slight change to boundary extension infront of old scoreboard due to angle of the boundary edge there.
Parking is a problem especially for the first couple of days of games and for one-day and 20 over games.
The "car park closed" sign seems to have disappeared from the entrance, by the way, Roger I.
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The "car park closed" sign seems to have disappeared from the entrance, by the way, Roger I.
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Perhaps a Cricket Fan has moved them CH!!! but as it is no longer a public car park, I will not be parking on somebody's else's property, nor would I like an uninvited person parking a vehicle on my property, but then perhaps I have old fashioned principles.
For those who are already saying they don't like the New Pavilion and I have been saying wait until it has finished, here is a bit of information!
I have told when I ask about what it would look like when I was looking at the end nearest to the Gimblett's Hill, I was told it will be wood cladding on the end, I quite like the sound of that. (I don't think it was reclaimed from the Old Pavilion).
I have told when I ask about what it would look like when I was looking at the end nearest to the Gimblett's Hill, I was told it will be wood cladding on the end, I quite like the sound of that. (I don't think it was reclaimed from the Old Pavilion).
Not much to take in the way of photos recently, they have boarded up most of the building on the car park side and scaffolding is now covering a lot of it ready for the cladding to go on.
Looks like the builders have started fixing the wood cladding on the Gimblett's Hill side of the pavilion.
I haven't taken any for a while, so I thought I would show you what it look like now the cladding is starting to go on.
This is directly behind the media centre.
The front of the pavilion, it is a bit easier to see now some of the scaffolding is gone.
The ground staff were putting up the black sheeting for tomorrow's game.
This is directly behind the media centre.
The front of the pavilion, it is a bit easier to see now some of the scaffolding is gone.
The ground staff were putting up the black sheeting for tomorrow's game.
Is it known yet what the club's policy will be with regard to the seating on the top deck? Is it intended to be members-only, or platinum-only, or what?
It will be for anybody who arrives very early and puts their coats and bags on "their" seats.
Some of the window frames arrived today for the Long Room or the boxes further along.
The zinc cladding will start to be installed tomorrow.
The zinc cladding will start to be installed tomorrow.
That is odd, I didn't notice that Roger.
I was warned the other day to change my password, this I did, I wonder when I logged in several days ago the computer used the old stored password!!
A large crane is lifting the glass over the roof for the media centre today.
The media centre is now revealed in all it's glory, and I like the look of it.
A very large platform has been built for the SKY camera's for the Sunday match.
A very large platform has been built for the SKY camera's for the Sunday match.
Will they open it early just for me? Highly doubt it. I'll be waiting at least a year to enjoy the comfort of the facilities. Back this week so Glamorgan on Sunday. Whooppee!!
Too late now but I'm surprised they didnt extend the glass front of the media box slightly around the corner to the sides. Surely there will be some restriction to viewing the whole outfield?
Thank you Mike.
What is the cladding material on the 'Media Centre'?
Is it decent Tongue and Grooved wood, or a cheap and cheerful chipboard type of finish?
What is the cladding material on the 'Media Centre'?
Is it decent Tongue and Grooved wood, or a cheap and cheerful chipboard type of finish?
Tongue and Grooved wood, the part in blue/grey on the side of the media centre in the back view photo is zinc cladding.
Thank you, Mike.
In view of the construction of the former Old Pavilion, I consider that to be appropriate.
In view of the construction of the former Old Pavilion, I consider that to be appropriate.
How can brown stained wood be considered appropriate? It is a monstrous carbuncle, completely out of keeping and proportion of its surroundings.
"Out of keeping" with what, cricketharris?
In my opinion, the only building architecturally worthy of note to a county cricket ground is the 'Colin Atkinson Pavilion.'
The Ian Botham Stand is bland, the Ondaatje Pavilion gives the impression from a distance of another 'Morrisons' Supermarket, the Trescothick and Somerset Stands are simply terraced rows of seats, and the Andy Caddick Pavilion is another carbuncle which would appear to be more suitably put to use as a Yacht Club HQ on an estuary somewhere.
And yes, the new building is another carbuncle which likewise would (again in my opinion) not look out of place on a Racecourse.
However, as it replaces the 'Old Pavilion' which was constructed entirely of wood, I felt that by cladding some of it with wood would be the minimum recognition of what stood on the site before.
Not much, I know.
And my views on its design were made clear to the club before contracts were signed.
In my opinion, the only building architecturally worthy of note to a county cricket ground is the 'Colin Atkinson Pavilion.'
The Ian Botham Stand is bland, the Ondaatje Pavilion gives the impression from a distance of another 'Morrisons' Supermarket, the Trescothick and Somerset Stands are simply terraced rows of seats, and the Andy Caddick Pavilion is another carbuncle which would appear to be more suitably put to use as a Yacht Club HQ on an estuary somewhere.
And yes, the new building is another carbuncle which likewise would (again in my opinion) not look out of place on a Racecourse.
However, as it replaces the 'Old Pavilion' which was constructed entirely of wood, I felt that by cladding some of it with wood would be the minimum recognition of what stood on the site before.
Not much, I know.
And my views on its design were made clear to the club before contracts were signed.
Its proportions are my main objection, it being twice as high as what seems to me to be asthetically pleasing. Now the scaffolding is coming down the full effect of its hotch-potch design is more evident. It doesn't fit into its background or surrondings.
I trust you had more success with the club taking your views onboard before contracts were signed than I had. Zilch, of course.
I trust you had more success with the club taking your views onboard before contracts were signed than I had. Zilch, of course.
I have no opinion on the design of the new stand. As long as it does the job
it was built for is OK by me. I think we need to remember that it is probably the first part
of extended reconstruction to the north of it.
Old Boy!
Kartik is a ???
it was built for is OK by me. I think we need to remember that it is probably the first part
of extended reconstruction to the north of it.
Old Boy!
Kartik is a ???
Just an update.
Fixtures and fittings are being fitted, the stands safety handrails are fitted and they are getting ready to fit the seating.
On car park side some of the scaffolding has been removed where they have finished the outside.
The club has put the house that once was the Head Groundsman house up for sale (maybe they need the money) and they have demolished the house garden wall along the car park, are they going to rebuild it or they making the car park larger?
Fixtures and fittings are being fitted, the stands safety handrails are fitted and they are getting ready to fit the seating.
On car park side some of the scaffolding has been removed where they have finished the outside.
The club has put the house that once was the Head Groundsman house up for sale (maybe they need the money) and they have demolished the house garden wall along the car park, are they going to rebuild it or they making the car park larger?
I'm sure I could find the answer if i tried, so please indulge my laziness. What is the large "terrace" area beneath the Media centre to be used for?
Cameras and such like I think Railboy - a kind of observation deck for the TV media, radio, photographers etc?
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The Architects website mock up shows what appears to be a TV camera deck directly below the media box and then tables and chairs on the reamining'patio' area. It could well be a mini version of the Old Trafford's Point?
The mock up also shows a much less sauna like stain on the wood cladding that has been a topic of discussion. I note on twitter that a specialist is carrying out the wood cladding rather then the main contractor. I would suspect that the wood will weather from its current colour to a more subtle colour over time
The mock up also shows a much less sauna like stain on the wood cladding that has been a topic of discussion. I note on twitter that a specialist is carrying out the wood cladding rather then the main contractor. I would suspect that the wood will weather from its current colour to a more subtle colour over time
The plans lodged with Taunton Deane, describe the area as as a
"Roof Top Terrace" with table and chairs also being shown.
So I imagine it will be a premium Corporate entertainment area,
Approved Materials in the conditions section are shown as
· Fair faced blockwork, Colour: Bathstone
· Zinc Cladding, Colour: Gray
· Thermowood timber cladding with natural oil finish, Colour: Mid-Brown
The work must be carried out in accordance with these approved details.
"Roof Top Terrace" with table and chairs also being shown.
So I imagine it will be a premium Corporate entertainment area,
Approved Materials in the conditions section are shown as
· Fair faced blockwork, Colour: Bathstone
· Zinc Cladding, Colour: Gray
· Thermowood timber cladding with natural oil finish, Colour: Mid-Brown
The work must be carried out in accordance with these approved details.
All that seems to fit Roger, we all know wood will bleached by the sun, some wood even go grey after a while.
Plenty of pictures and views from the New Somerset Pavilion.
SCCC Facebook
Click next to scroll through images.
SCCC Facebook
Click next to scroll through images.
There was talk at the ground yesterday that the new pavilion will not be ready to be used for the last match of the season, I have not read anything on the clubs web site.
Yes Mike, I heard the same last week, but not sure it matters that much now, must say workmen do not seem to be in a rush to finish, so imagine no penalty clause built into the contract, but it will give the grass area in front of the works to recover.
Certainly there are no plans to do anything but have a walk around the media area during the last match - no intention to use the new facilities.
On the top tier of seating there is a solid back behind the top row of seats, some were thinking it was going to be windy sitting up there, this may help somewhat.
That's to stop some of our gloomier members (yes, there are one or two) from throwing themselves off backwards at especially low moments.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
"I wonder if it will be open for our last game in CC1?" Said Eeyore
Judging by what is not said in the posting on the club's site the answer is No.
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Judging by what is not said in the posting on the club's site the answer is No.
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Two bits of news, the temporary stand is gone, and it looks like at long last they are finishing off the top of the east end of the pavilion with white boarding.
The fire escape is being built by a large crane (and men) on the Media end of the pavilion.
They have also started bringing in items for the drainage system.
They have also started bringing in items for the drainage system.
The latest photos taken to day 15th September 2015
Looking better now all that sheeting has gone, SKY's platform is going Thursday or Friday.
The fire escape being fitted.
Looking inside the media centre, the seating still to go inside.
Still a lot of work to be done in front of the pavilion.
Looking better now all that sheeting has gone, SKY's platform is going Thursday or Friday.
The fire escape being fitted.
Looking inside the media centre, the seating still to go inside.
Still a lot of work to be done in front of the pavilion.
Nah it's not making me smile at the moment. It looks like two bits sort of slung together, a glorified garden shed tacked on to a stand they only had half of the top tier for.
May look better with people in it.
May look better with people in it.
Re the top photo.
Every time I see the stand on the left I think it looks like a half open laptop, with the white seats the keyboard.
Every time I see the stand on the left I think it looks like a half open laptop, with the white seats the keyboard.
You are one of the lucky ones, Grockle, being allowed to sit in the stand and therefore not having to look at it. As you have said I ought to do the same if I don't like it. At least it will supply some badly needed morning shade but what an out-of-place monstosity.
You can't please everybody, I like it.
On my way into the ground there was a couple by the gate, the women was reluctant to go into the ground so I took them in.
I explained what was happening in the ground and the women said she liked the look of the pavilion especially the wood cladding and took a photo. I then found out they were from Melbourne Australia, these Australians have good taste.
On my way into the ground there was a couple by the gate, the women was reluctant to go into the ground so I took them in.
I explained what was happening in the ground and the women said she liked the look of the pavilion especially the wood cladding and took a photo. I then found out they were from Melbourne Australia, these Australians have good taste.
True CH. I'm not sure about it yet... it fits with nothing but may be softened by people in it. And as you say I don't have to look at it.... just the Botham Stand or the Newquay Surfing Centre - the Caddyshack.
I don't think I'd enjoy sitting up there if the wind was in the east.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Mike, Will you be moving to the media area to take your photos, or will you stay grounded.
Quote:chunkyinargyll
Re the top photo.
Every time I see the stand on the left I think it looks like a half open laptop, with the white seats the keyboard.
In honour of this, and of Somerset's (and its most prominent supporter's) cider-drinking heritage, perhaps it should be known as the Apple Pavilion.
The Pavilion looks inoffensive/unremarkable.
The media centre, frankly, looks daft to me - almost as though it was an afterthought (although we know, of course, that it was not).
Edited to add that unless any given game is being played on a pitch some way over towards the flats side of the ground, then isn't the media centre also in the wrong place? Aren't the media centres normally as close to being behind the arm as possible? Which would mean that the media centre should be further to the left (as we look at the photo) for most of our pitches?
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The media centre, frankly, looks daft to me - almost as though it was an afterthought (although we know, of course, that it was not).
Edited to add that unless any given game is being played on a pitch some way over towards the flats side of the ground, then isn't the media centre also in the wrong place? Aren't the media centres normally as close to being behind the arm as possible? Which would mean that the media centre should be further to the left (as we look at the photo) for most of our pitches?
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I see that according to a piece in The Spin today the replacement for the WACA in Perth will have "drop-in pitches". Could that be the answer at Taunton or aren't they allowed here?
I think it's a disgrace that the WACA is being phased out and the height of stupidity on the part of Cricket Australia in terms of reducing their home advantage.
Drop-in pitches, IMO, tend to be somewhat flat and bland. In which case it's not clear how they would help us.
Drop-in pitches, IMO, tend to be somewhat flat and bland. In which case it's not clear how they would help us.
Re your posting of the 17.12 AGod
To give you the opportunity to analyse suggest you look up following
Taunton Deane Planning Ref No 38/13/0299
(A1) DrNo 308 Rev A Media Level Plan, Section & Pitch Reference Acrobat Doc View
15 JUL 2013
Plans Of The Proposal (A1)
DrNo 307 Rev A Gantry Level Plan, Section & Pitch Reference
Looks pretty central to me
To give you the opportunity to analyse suggest you look up following
Taunton Deane Planning Ref No 38/13/0299
(A1) DrNo 308 Rev A Media Level Plan, Section & Pitch Reference Acrobat Doc View
15 JUL 2013
Plans Of The Proposal (A1)
DrNo 307 Rev A Gantry Level Plan, Section & Pitch Reference
Looks pretty central to me
AG, the media centre is placed in line with the middle of the square, that is where the TV camera's will be set up. That is why SKY's platform was in front of the media centre for the women's World Cup match.
Edit - Roger you beat me to it.
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Edit - Roger you beat me to it.
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Yes, Agod, but what if your opinion (as in your 1722 post) wasn't correct? Just imagine.
Well I don't imagine that SCCC are about to resort to a drop-in pitch so I don't suppose that either of us is about to find out for sure whether it would help us, Cricketharris.
I have seen 'drop in pitches' being put into place at the MCG, Melbourne.
They are cultivated off site before being transported to the ground, which is of course a multi - sport stadium. The investment is huge and requires heavy and very expensive equipment to complete their insertion.
They cannot just be rolled up and placed in a carpet - layers van to be transported. I doubt that the technology will ever be used on English Test Match grounds, and as for Taunton, well that is laughable.
They are cultivated off site before being transported to the ground, which is of course a multi - sport stadium. The investment is huge and requires heavy and very expensive equipment to complete their insertion.
They cannot just be rolled up and placed in a carpet - layers van to be transported. I doubt that the technology will ever be used on English Test Match grounds, and as for Taunton, well that is laughable.
I thought drop-in pitches were meant for multi-sports grounds where they don't have a permanent square.
As for the pavilion, if you think it looks alright without sheets covering part of it, then you'll have to wait until next summer's Lionel Richie concert.
As for the pavilion, if you think it looks alright without sheets covering part of it, then you'll have to wait until next summer's Lionel Richie concert.
Lionel Richie ?
Did I miss an announcement re this ?
Well, I see he has gaps in his Las Vegas schedule to fit us in:
[lionelrichie.com]
Las Vegas to Taunton to Las Vegas ?
Beats Bognor Regis or Merthyr Tydfil I suppose !
Grizzzly
Did I miss an announcement re this ?
Well, I see he has gaps in his Las Vegas schedule to fit us in:
[lionelrichie.com]
Las Vegas to Taunton to Las Vegas ?
Beats Bognor Regis or Merthyr Tydfil I suppose !
Grizzzly
Back in 2002 there was, I understand, an MCC trial of drop-in pitches on the Nursery Ground.
I can find no record of any official 'verdict,' on the trial but we can surely surmise (from the fact that drop-ins were never used on the main square) that the results were deemed insufficiently favourable by Mick Hunt and co.
I can find no record of any official 'verdict,' on the trial but we can surely surmise (from the fact that drop-ins were never used on the main square) that the results were deemed insufficiently favourable by Mick Hunt and co.
A great work of art, Mike.
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
It's all in the eye of the photographer.
The link to my Photos on Photobucket - [s1152.photobucket.com]
The link to my Photos on Photobucket - [s1152.photobucket.com]
Grockle, there is a bit of luck involved, I happened to see the coloured sky grab my camera and take the photo.
Five minutes later all that colour in the sky from the setting sun had disappeared. The photo is exactly how I took it.
Five minutes later all that colour in the sky from the setting sun had disappeared. The photo is exactly how I took it.
I reckon Mike was hanging out of his bedroom window! or if not his, them someone else's!!
Brilliant picture though!
Old Boy!
Brilliant picture though!
Old Boy!
Quote:WickhamQuote:chunkyinargyll
Re the top photo.
Every time I see the stand on the left I think it looks like a half open laptop, with the white seats the keyboard.
In honour of this, and of Somerset's (and its most prominent supporter's) cider-drinking heritage, perhaps it should be known as the Apple Pavilion.
If Somerset's most prominent cider-drinkiing supporter relocates to the new Pavilion and it's resurrected Stragglers' Bar, surely it should be informally known to all as the Tractor Shed
Am I the only one to be surprised that the Somerset club site are stating that the new pavilion seats only 1000 more people. I was under the impression that is was going to be more than that.
Any chance this thread could be split into pages, please. It takes a month to load...
It's in a comment on the picture on their facebook page Mike.
Someone asked how many seats it contained and the response was 'roughly 1000'
I was under the misguided impression it seems that it was nearer 2000.
Someone asked how many seats it contained and the response was 'roughly 1000'
I was under the misguided impression it seems that it was nearer 2000.
The new Somerset Pavilion proposals replace 825 existing seats with 1,312 new permanent seats for the public and members broken down as follows:
i. 743 tiered seats at ground level (324 of which are covered)
ii. 195 seats to the first floor facilities (64 of which are covered).
iii. 374 tiered seats at second floor level (336 of which are covered).
A total of 724 of the new permanent seats are covered.
All permanent seating is serviced with catering and toilet provision at each floor level with the ground and second floor facilities utilising the space underneath the tiered seating.
Grockle above details from planning application submitted.
i. 743 tiered seats at ground level (324 of which are covered)
ii. 195 seats to the first floor facilities (64 of which are covered).
iii. 374 tiered seats at second floor level (336 of which are covered).
A total of 724 of the new permanent seats are covered.
All permanent seating is serviced with catering and toilet provision at each floor level with the ground and second floor facilities utilising the space underneath the tiered seating.
Grockle above details from planning application submitted.
Thanks Roger, As I say I'm surprised the number is under 1500 but I may not have been paying close attention so it could just be me... it usually is.
"Text a pint"would be a good idea. Your drinks delivered to your seat only between overs.
No people getting up going in and out especially if the seats are squeazed in like in The Botham Stand.
No people getting up going in and out especially if the seats are squeazed in like in The Botham Stand.
It's not rocket science Bobstan.
The "booze carrier" leaves the tray of booze at the end of the aisle, then they get passed along the line one by one during the over.
Tractor would be able to watch all the game except for comfort breaks.
The "booze carrier" leaves the tray of booze at the end of the aisle, then they get passed along the line one by one during the over.
Tractor would be able to watch all the game except for comfort breaks.
You could be right there Bobs.
I heard that LoL had a degree in rocket science!
I heard that LoL had a degree in rocket science!
Yes, he's off to Mars very soon.
I'm just not sure whether it's the planet or the factory in Slough.
I'm just not sure whether it's the planet or the factory in Slough.
I'll be having lunch with the above mentioned genius this week - I've never met a genius before! How should I address him??
Old Boy!!
Old Boy!!
My wife was at Heathrow one day and heard an announcenent requesting the man from Mars to go to the information desk; she thinks she was the only one to notice.
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I wonder if the 'man from mars' is code for the head of police, or similar.
On the underground 'Will Inspector Sands report to the control room' means a fire alert. It's supposed to stop people panicking, but considering most people know what 'Inspector Sands' means they might as well tell the truth.
On the underground 'Will Inspector Sands report to the control room' means a fire alert. It's supposed to stop people panicking, but considering most people know what 'Inspector Sands' means they might as well tell the truth.
At the Barbican Concert Hall the mention of Colonel Sands indicates that a fire is happening.
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Signs of the build coming to an end, the largest steel container on site has been taken away today, I was told the end of the month was the deadline for finishing, it will depend on if there are any holdups.
confirmation on the main site that the official opening of the Somerset Pavilion will be by Colin Graves on 20th November. Tours for mere mortals to be announced later!
Does anyone else agree that Colin Graves is one if the most inappropriate people possible for this honour?
Colin Graves' performance, along with Tom Harrison, as representatives of the ECB at the recent discussion with members at Taunton indicates to me that he is totally unworthy of visiting our club to perform such an honour.
Surely the club could have invited someone with a Somerset connection, or even an England Test player of repute, to have performed the task. Another woolly-headed decision by those who run our club in my opinion.
Surely the club could have invited someone with a Somerset connection, or even an England Test player of repute, to have performed the task. Another woolly-headed decision by those who run our club in my opinion.
I didn't have a clear view of the back of the pavilion to take a photo, they were planting trees today (five) and clearing up ready to move out.
There is still work to do before it is complete, one item is to extend the sightscreen rail to the end of the bottom tiered seating at the Gimblett's Hill end.
As I said the picket fence is being completed
There is still work to do before it is complete, one item is to extend the sightscreen rail to the end of the bottom tiered seating at the Gimblett's Hill end.
As I said the picket fence is being completed
As you can see in my photo the outfield is in a bit of mess, it looked like there were installing the irrigation system today!
Do you air-brush out (or whatever it's called these days) the St James's Church tower, Mike as it never seems to appear in your photographs but in real life there it is right behind in all its overshadowed glory.
I am very pleased to learn that there will be some trees planted on the ground at last.
I believe that the former trees on both sides of the ground that were savagely felled some years ago were lime trees. I wonder if the new ones will be of the same species.
I believe that the former trees on both sides of the ground that were savagely felled some years ago were lime trees. I wonder if the new ones will be of the same species.
It's still there CH.
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Two photos from today.
The outfield after the Drainage system has been installed. They are still working on installing the irrigation system today.
It is not easy to see the small trees, one on the left and four in a row on the forecourt.
The outfield after the Drainage system has been installed. They are still working on installing the irrigation system today.
It is not easy to see the small trees, one on the left and four in a row on the forecourt.
Should your posting be directed to cricketharris, Roger?
The old trees are most certainly not still there.
The old trees are most certainly not still there.
Yes sorry Clarence, will amend.
But I do remember those lime trees, many excuses given when they were removed so quickly, disease being one (a porky I think)
But I do remember those lime trees, many excuses given when they were removed so quickly, disease being one (a porky I think)
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Does anyone else agree that Colin Graves is one if the most inappropriate people possible for this honour?
I have to disagree, SP. Graves is entirely the right man for the job, as he still will be when he returns in three or four years from now to close everything down at the county ground, there being no space in his world view for little clubs like ours.
I think perhaps Jos could open it as IMO he won't be needed in SA this winter. His opening speech could be along the lines of - I think I may have made the wrong move!!
Old Boy!
Old Boy!
The New Pavilion After Dark.
It is a bit grainy I was hand holding the camera with a monopod.
Is a monopod the same as a mermaid? You can never be sure what Mike gets up to when the nights draw in...
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This has become a very serious topic. The Dawn Treader was always my favourite Narnia book.
It is all finished by the look of it.
About ten vans in today finishing off the final bits and pieces.
The full car park is now open.
All we need now is for the outfield drainage workers to finish off.
About ten vans in today finishing off the final bits and pieces.
The full car park is now open.
All we need now is for the outfield drainage workers to finish off.
Thanks, Mike, for keeping us up to date on this project all the way through.
You are welcome.
Next is the opening of it, with that bloke who wants to do away with the CC (well almost)
Next is the opening of it, with that bloke who wants to do away with the CC (well almost)
A pity Sean Johnson the site manager couldn't be there when the keys were handed over.
He did such a good job overseeing the pavilion being built, a lot must go down to him on the smooth running of the operation.
He left Spillers for a new job about a week ago, I never had a chance to say good luck to him.
He did such a good job overseeing the pavilion being built, a lot must go down to him on the smooth running of the operation.
He left Spillers for a new job about a week ago, I never had a chance to say good luck to him.
I have heard that Colin Graves has offered Sean Johnson a job with the demolition company he has set up, with about a dozen contracts already in place.
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The latest photos.
Work still being done on the outfield.
It also looks like they are leveling off the outfield, the irrigation system is still being installed.
I remember the plans showing security gates between the new pavilion and the Gimblett's Hill, I don't know if these gates will be normally be closed for matches.
If so, this will be the only way through to the Gimblett's Hill, going through the new stand.
Work still being done on the outfield.
It also looks like they are leveling off the outfield, the irrigation system is still being installed.
I remember the plans showing security gates between the new pavilion and the Gimblett's Hill, I don't know if these gates will be normally be closed for matches.
If so, this will be the only way through to the Gimblett's Hill, going through the new stand.
You should have seen it yesterday, they have brushed a lot of it in to the surface.
I hope that it is Weston super Mare sand - that should give many wickets to the spinners next season.
Incidentally, I inspected the former square at C P this morning, and was very sad to see what once was.
Incidentally, I inspected the former square at C P this morning, and was very sad to see what once was.
I'm beginning to think it's almost always a mistake to go back to a ground you used to love, even at the club level.
I recently went back to see the ground in Hertfordshire where I used to play. I wish I hadn't. It was as if vandals had been let loose there. What used to be a delightful ground is now an eyesore. If it wasn't Vandals it must have been Goths or Visigoths or just possibly Ostrogoths.
I recently went back to see the ground in Hertfordshire where I used to play. I wish I hadn't. It was as if vandals had been let loose there. What used to be a delightful ground is now an eyesore. If it wasn't Vandals it must have been Goths or Visigoths or just possibly Ostrogoths.
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I'm beginning to think it's almost always a mistake to go back to a ground you used to love, even at the club level.
I recently went back to see the ground in Hertfordshire where I used to play. I wish I hadn't. It was as if vandals had been let loose there. What used to be a delightful ground is now an eyesore. If it wasn't Vandals it must have been Goths or Visigoths or just possibly Ostrogoths.
I played for Royston, many moons ago. They stopped playing on Therfield Heath and I don't know where they now play, but what a shame as it was a beautiful setting. Keith Fletcher's Essex played there a few times.
Incidentally, does anyone know what categories of membership will be able to use the new facilities, will there be a Stragglers Bar and are there exec boxes?
To answer some of your questions Both. [www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
I think the five boxes are already taken, you can always check with the club.
I think the five boxes are already taken, you can always check with the club.
There is talk of an "1875 Club" does anyone know what it is, not that I could afford it anyway!!
Isn't it the more expensive Long Room? I think a lot of names were being said by the normal membership at the ground this season.
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There is a letter from Lavender on the official site explaining how each part of the new pavilion will be used. ("utilised" was his word)
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The 1875 club (the year the club was formed) is priced around £1,000 per year, restricted to around 100 members, last I heard its was 90% sold out, but that could have changed.
How can it be "90% sold out" Roger, when to the best of my knowledge it hasn't even been advertised to members?
Clarence, it was offered to Long Room founders first, then to platinum Long Room members, prior to the start of last season, the deal was 3 years upfront one of which was LR membership for the 2015 season plus two years membership of the new Somerset pavilion (2016 and 2017).
I am sure the club office will clarify if needed.
I am sure the club office will clarify if needed.
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Not sure the Exec boxes, would be good value for you Botham.
Of monetary vale, certainly not, but I am starting to appreciate some of the finer things in life and don't mind paying.
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To answer some of your questions Both. [www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
I think the five boxes are already taken, you can always check with the club.
Thanks Mike. I wonder what the 1875 club is?
Quote:Bobstan
I knew you'd appreciate me eventually, Both.
Are you like a fine vintage wine?
... any port will do on a stormy day like this.
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With the magnificent new Somerset Pavilion set to be officially opened this week, we are giving Somerset Members the chance to have guided tours of the fantastic new facility.
On Monday December 7th we will be hosting an Open Day to give our Members the chance to look around the new Somerset Pavilion with guided tours being held every 30 minutes from 8.30am. [www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
On Monday December 7th we will be hosting an Open Day to give our Members the chance to look around the new Somerset Pavilion with guided tours being held every 30 minutes from 8.30am. [www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
Let's hope it isn't windy that day. I sneaked up to the top the other day and you had to cling on to stop being blown away.
On opening day I managed to take photos of the inside of the New Pavilion.
This is the view of the cafe/bistro, it will be open to the public on none match days, I believe about mid December.
This is inside of the 1875 club.
One of the executive boxes.
Each of the five boxes are named after an away ground we once played on.
There is quite a large area under the Media Centre to view the cricket from.
The view from the back of the top seating.
This is the view of the cafe/bistro, it will be open to the public on none match days, I believe about mid December.
This is inside of the 1875 club.
One of the executive boxes.
Each of the five boxes are named after an away ground we once played on.
There is quite a large area under the Media Centre to view the cricket from.
The view from the back of the top seating.
Thanks Mike.
I get my chance on Mon 7 Dec at 9:30am. Hope the weather is good so I can imagine a match in progress!!
I get my chance on Mon 7 Dec at 9:30am. Hope the weather is good so I can imagine a match in progress!!
You will be very impressed by the quality of the finish John.
I may even go on one of the members tour.
I may even go on one of the members tour.
Thanks Mike. I don't think my suit is dark enough for me to be allowed in.
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Seventy-eight Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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So the Stragglers Coffee Shop (a sad reincarnation) is going to be open every day throughout the year from 8 till 6 (4 on Sundays). Is it me or is that a very expensive joke? Who on earth do they think is going to use it other than on match days, of course.
Maybe it's to try to stop the players going off to Coffee#1 or Costa, I suppose. Some hope.
Maybe it's to try to stop the players going off to Coffee#1 or Costa, I suppose. Some hope.
Cricketharris it rather a shame you have to take another opportunity to criticise the club development before it is open.
The club pay business rates 365 days a year, so why not utilise the facilities.
If the club can get it right from the start I see no reason why it will not attract regular punters, 20% discount for members also.
I intend to give it a try.
The club pay business rates 365 days a year, so why not utilise the facilities.
If the club can get it right from the start I see no reason why it will not attract regular punters, 20% discount for members also.
I intend to give it a try.
It's good seeing my photo with the news of the coffee shop opening. [www.somersetcountycc.co.uk]
Have the club given up the use of 'The Twelfth Man' on the Theatre side of the ground?
It was, I believe, originally open on match days only, but then latterly open at other times as well. I can't imagine that the club would run two similar premises nearby to one another.
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It was, I believe, originally open on match days only, but then latterly open at other times as well. I can't imagine that the club would run two similar premises nearby to one another.
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Bobstan, If it was not possible to make a go of Twelth Man, (which was arguably in a better position to get some passing trade), even on match days it is very difficult to see how the new Stragglers will be a success out-of-season. I hope you, and Peter Trego, patronise it regularly. It will need it to pay the bills. I don't want my club to squander my money.
The Twelfth Man is definitely in a better postion to attract passing trade. Will users of the Stragglers have to pay to park in the ground before they can use it? If so, it is unlikely to do well unless it is let out for evening functions or the like because you can't move for coffee shops in Taunton nowadays.
I hope the club did some market research on this, but I somehow doubt it.
A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.
I hope the club did some market research on this, but I somehow doubt it.
A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.
cricketharris, It was Trego who spoke highly of the new facility, not I. Don't shoot the messenger; I merely reported the fact.
It does seem to me to be unlikely to attract any passing trade on non-match days as virtually nobody passes, except Mike TA1. Only local committed supporters will be easy to attract. It will need to provide outstanding service, food and drink so that 'word of mouth' then gradually builds up custom. Difficult.
I have to admit with great shame that I am unlikely to come from Hertfordshire for my morning coffee.
It does seem to me to be unlikely to attract any passing trade on non-match days as virtually nobody passes, except Mike TA1. Only local committed supporters will be easy to attract. It will need to provide outstanding service, food and drink so that 'word of mouth' then gradually builds up custom. Difficult.
I have to admit with great shame that I am unlikely to come from Hertfordshire for my morning coffee.
There are a lot of people living further down the road towards the new bypass roundabout at the end of Priory Avenue. a lot of them will pass the ground going into town.
knowing the club I am sure there will be some sort of advertising for it. The trouble with the Twelfth Man it wasn't open enough days for the public, people were finding it closed on some days of the week.
knowing the club I am sure there will be some sort of advertising for it. The trouble with the Twelfth Man it wasn't open enough days for the public, people were finding it closed on some days of the week.
Good. Let's hope they can be enticed in for visit No1 and they then wish to return.
A lot of people use the Car Park on non match day, Coffee and a snack before or after going into town, just the job.
If the club offer free Wi-Fi within the unit it will also attract reps etc.
If the club offer free Wi-Fi within the unit it will also attract reps etc.
Sorry, Bobstan it was Roger I to whom I should have addressed my last message not your good-self.
People do use the car park on the majority of days in the year when there is no cricket, Roger ivanhoe, but they have to pay to do so, and you have got to entice them to park there before they venture into the town to shop.
Fine for match days but if the club couldn't make a success of the Twelfth Man, then I doubt whether this will last long at all.
I will reserve final judgement until I have visited next week.
A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.
Fine for match days but if the club couldn't make a success of the Twelfth Man, then I doubt whether this will last long at all.
I will reserve final judgement until I have visited next week.
A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.
The car park is always busy it is the cheapest parking in the town (at the moment). A steward was on duty for part of today checking that they had all paid.
Mike, I can imagine a steward is likely to be on duty more often off season once the Café/Bistro is open.
To my mind the club have a captive customers with the car park outside, plus footfall going past the JW Gates and with the soon loss of the Lidl free Car Park on the bridge, people will be looking for a cheap alternative for parking.
While I am not sure the footfall going past the Twelve man was that great, I felt the club were only using it as a short term measure to cover the loss of the Old Pavilion facilities and thus did not promote or go to town on it.
Some People said the expenditure on the CA Pavilion was a waste of money, how they have been proved wrong, as seen in the breakdown of the profits over the past few years.
Time will tell of course.
To my mind the club have a captive customers with the car park outside, plus footfall going past the JW Gates and with the soon loss of the Lidl free Car Park on the bridge, people will be looking for a cheap alternative for parking.
While I am not sure the footfall going past the Twelve man was that great, I felt the club were only using it as a short term measure to cover the loss of the Old Pavilion facilities and thus did not promote or go to town on it.
Some People said the expenditure on the CA Pavilion was a waste of money, how they have been proved wrong, as seen in the breakdown of the profits over the past few years.
Time will tell of course.
I believe you are correct on all counts Roger.
And when the Brewhouse car park also goes, there will be a good business opportunity for somebody to buy a bit of land and set up a car park.
And when the Brewhouse car park also goes, there will be a good business opportunity for somebody to buy a bit of land and set up a car park.
No probs, Cricketharris (he said in Aussie mode).
I certainly hope this venture succeeds. Roger and Mike clearly feel it has a good chance.
I certainly hope this venture succeeds. Roger and Mike clearly feel it has a good chance.
I agree with River and Mike. There is potential and if the club are to make it succeed then the opening of a fine new building is the right time.
I wish them well and will be trying the coffee after my tour on Monday next.
I wish them well and will be trying the coffee after my tour on Monday next.
The official opening of The Stragglers Coffee House by Marcus Trescothick and Guy Lavender.
The entrance to The Stragglers Coffee House.
The patio area where you can enjoy a nice cup of coffee in the warm sunshine.
All those involved in today's opening.
Marcus Trescothick – Guy Lavender – Mike Burns – and most important the Staff who work hard to make a success of it.
There is somebody on the left who is one of Somerset's most loyal supporters.
Marcus Trescothick and Guy Lavender shaking hands after the official opening, and in the background there is that loyal Supporter again enjoying a cup of coffee and reading a paper (what a way to relax)
The entrance to The Stragglers Coffee House.
The patio area where you can enjoy a nice cup of coffee in the warm sunshine.
All those involved in today's opening.
Marcus Trescothick – Guy Lavender – Mike Burns – and most important the Staff who work hard to make a success of it.
There is somebody on the left who is one of Somerset's most loyal supporters.
Marcus Trescothick and Guy Lavender shaking hands after the official opening, and in the background there is that loyal Supporter again enjoying a cup of coffee and reading a paper (what a way to relax)
For those who missed booking for the tour of the new pavilion there will be an extra day on the 14th December, the club will announce the details on their web site.
When is the Brewhouse car park closing? And can anyone park in the County Ground car park?
Not just yet Shepton Paul 2, it's within the revised "Vision of Taunton" plans, to be replaced with Arts and Restaurant's and more shops, seems what they really want is a traffic free Taunton where people will use Public transport, Park and Ride or bicycles.
If the proposals for this, the Firepool development, and other ideas are instigated then Taunton will have an overload of Restaurants.
Anyone can park on the County Ground car park on non match days, at a lower rate than nearby car parks.
If the proposals for this, the Firepool development, and other ideas are instigated then Taunton will have an overload of Restaurants.
Anyone can park on the County Ground car park on non match days, at a lower rate than nearby car parks.
Handing the Brewhouse car park over to the developers sounds an utterly idiotic idea, most particularly from the viewpoint of the Brewhouse.
I am glad to see the club are taking the ground security more seriously, the ST. James St gates have been closed for the last two night.
I voiced my concerns to Guy Lavender on the media day, I mentioned that unlike the Botham stand the new pavilion walk through is open both end, anybody would be out of sight once that are in that walk way.
I voiced my concerns to Guy Lavender on the media day, I mentioned that unlike the Botham stand the new pavilion walk through is open both end, anybody would be out of sight once that are in that walk way.
Visited the new Stragglers coffee house today and thought that the choice of food,service and prices were pretty good. However it seemed in my view to lack atmosphere compared to the Twelfth Man and I found the room layout unattractively functional.Early days I know, but given the competition in town off-season it will need to address this if it's going to attract and grow custom. (Incidentally,I find the bar area of the Colin Atkinson pavilion similarly uninspiring)
The few times I visited the Twelfth Man last season I came away disappointed always felt it was a just a temporary unit and treated as such.
Certainly not the case after visiting the Stragglers Coffee house, good quality seating, Food was good, Staff helpful and enthusiastic, table service, 20% discount for members, reasonable range of food, but felt they might need to add a couple of additional hot items to the current Menu, (Pasta, Sausage and Mash maybe).
Certainly not the case after visiting the Stragglers Coffee house, good quality seating, Food was good, Staff helpful and enthusiastic, table service, 20% discount for members, reasonable range of food, but felt they might need to add a couple of additional hot items to the current Menu, (Pasta, Sausage and Mash maybe).
I took the pavilion tour on Monday. It is a splendid new facility and the standard of finish very good. Views from the boxes and the top are magnificent.
I took several photos and the link below should take you to them
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Enjoy.
I took several photos and the link below should take you to them
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Cut and paste this link into your browser.
Enjoy.
Many thanks for the photo's John.
Who will be the first batsman to hit a six over the top of the new Pavillion ?
Hope that glass is cricket ball proof !
Grizzzly
Who will be the first batsman to hit a six over the top of the new Pavillion ?
Hope that glass is cricket ball proof !
Grizzzly
Wait until Glamorgan are visitors, and when the loquacious Welshman Edward Bevan is commentating perhaps Peter Trego can repeat what he did a few years ago by hitting a ball through the window of the commentators' box.
Very good Mike,
I treated myself to a pot of tea in the Stragglers last Friday.
Very pleasant. I bet it will be crowded on a wet day!
Old Boy!
I treated myself to a pot of tea in the Stragglers last Friday.
Very pleasant. I bet it will be crowded on a wet day!
Old Boy!
Thanks for the pictures, SJB. Looks a bit too high for me - are the seats on the right, as you look out to the pitch, right next to a sheer drop? I had a similar seat at Twickenham once, and couldn't sit there as it made me feel physically sick. This isn't as high, but may be too much for me, near the edge.
Otherwise: lovely.
Otherwise: lovely.
Yes Shep I believe they are but there is a highish fence/rail. I won't be sitting up there either but it is because although the views across the town to the Quantocks are magnificent the perspective for watching the cricket is wrong for me. I prefer being at either ground level or just above bowlers arm height to feel I am almost part of the action!
I went on a Pavilion tour yesterday and was impressed with what has been achieved. It was entertaining to visit parts of the building that would be inaccessible in the future such as the scorers room and media centre.
The guide was Ben, the chap who is responsible for the clubs social media offering, who was enthusiastic and patient with questions.
The guide was Ben, the chap who is responsible for the clubs social media offering, who was enthusiastic and patient with questions.
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