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New Road Old Weather - LVCC train grinds to a halt.
Make or Break
By Grockle
July 22 2009
A three day game at the swimming pool that is new Road will not see us improve our position in the County Championship unfortunately. Having lost the whole of the first day to rain we are looking for quick wickets against the lowly placed Worcestershire in order to get something relevant from this wet and windy fixture. Andy Caddick returns to complete the usual mid summer line-up for long games
v Worcestershire LVCC1 @ New Road Tuesday 21 July 2009
Worcestershire. The side every one in contention has taken points off stand before us. Unfortunately we don't have time to take them for the maximum unless something miraculous happens because this game is only 75% possible after losing the whole of the first day to rain. The conditions may be useful and they have put us in but we need a huge score on Day 2 and then two good days to try and get them out twice.
The usual suspects make up the team;
Trescothick, Suppiah, Langer, Hildreth, de Bruyn, Trego, Kieswetter, Thomas, Stiff, Caddick, Willoughby
There's no time for spin and with Max Waller semi-fit the twelfth man is Omari Banks who may still be in the doghouse after a ball tampering fine in his last seconds game. No consideration of Wes Durston for that role although he was included in the one day game against Notts over the weekend. Still no chink of light for Neil Edwards to squeeze himself in through and with rumours of a bid from a Midlands county for him it may be an issue he doesen't have to worry about next year. Perhaps we will be facing an ex-Somerset opening partnership in away games in 2010. Steffan Jones is also expected to be moving - probably back to Derbyshire after also failing to break in to this close knit squad for four day games. So this eleven have their reputations on the line if they are our best and very little time to do anything about it in this game.
We open in grey and drizzly conditions and reach 81 at lunch without losing a wicket. Banger is on 34 and Arul is on 24 with a huge 20 extras being bowled by the Worcestershire attack including Gareth Andrew.
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This will be the game thread (frontpage to link in later). Why name Omari Banks in a squad of 12 on a pitch you expect to seam for both sides?
What is it designed to indicate? Lost me?
Don't expect him to play but it seems a pretty definite statement to Wes Durston if you ask me. One has to assume that as Max does not seem fit Omari, is seen as the next choice and that can't be good news for the Glastonbury man.
It also means our poll majority were incorrect about Somerset's reaction to 'Omarigate' and the man's possibility of a new contractual arrangement perhaps.
Hmmmm.
With Durham 36 points ahead, this has to be seen as our game in hand....we need to win everything up to and including the Notts game to keep the boys up North in sight.
What is it designed to indicate? Lost me?
Don't expect him to play but it seems a pretty definite statement to Wes Durston if you ask me. One has to assume that as Max does not seem fit Omari, is seen as the next choice and that can't be good news for the Glastonbury man.
It also means our poll majority were incorrect about Somerset's reaction to 'Omarigate' and the man's possibility of a new contractual arrangement perhaps.
Hmmmm.
With Durham 36 points ahead, this has to be seen as our game in hand....we need to win everything up to and including the Notts game to keep the boys up North in sight.
Somerset Seconds have a rare four days of cricket this week -weather permitting. They play a three-day championship match and one-day of Trophy cricket against Middlesex at Radlett C.C.
I`m sure the powers-that-be felt it better for Wes Durston, Neil Edwards, Mark Turner, Ben Phillips, Max Waller and the like to get in four days of cricket there rather than carry the drinks at Worcester.
Ths selection of Omari Banks in the 12 suggests to me that he is the most likely to be surplus to future requirements, rather than the next in line for a Championship place.
If I was Wes, I know where I would rather be playing this week - unless there was a guaranteed Ist XI place.
I`m sure the powers-that-be felt it better for Wes Durston, Neil Edwards, Mark Turner, Ben Phillips, Max Waller and the like to get in four days of cricket there rather than carry the drinks at Worcester.
Ths selection of Omari Banks in the 12 suggests to me that he is the most likely to be surplus to future requirements, rather than the next in line for a Championship place.
If I was Wes, I know where I would rather be playing this week - unless there was a guaranteed Ist XI place.
Omari can think himself very lucky to be even considered this early after recent events.
Team guaranteed to be the same as the Hampshire game.
As stated we just need some decent weather, guess best hope is to bowl first as quicker we get a chance to take 20 wickets the better
Team guaranteed to be the same as the Hampshire game.
As stated we just need some decent weather, guess best hope is to bowl first as quicker we get a chance to take 20 wickets the better
He certainly deserves to carry the drinks.. for the rest of the season. Perhaps this will be his punishment? Maybe he's simply not trusted to actually play cricket for the IIs anymore?
Omarigate? I prefer Tampergate.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Worcestershire chose from 12, but are without their overseas player Ashley Noffke, who has returned to Australia and is not being replaced:
Solanki, Moore, Mitchell, Smith, MM Ali, Davies, Batty, K. Ali, Andrew, Jones, Mason and Whelan.
Solanki, Moore, Mitchell, Smith, MM Ali, Davies, Batty, K. Ali, Andrew, Jones, Mason and Whelan.
Not necessarily AG.
Gives us the chance to size him up before we sign him on a one year deal for 2010 !
Lets see now, Jones from the Ian Botham Stand end & Hoggard from the OP end. That would be nice ?!
Grizzzly
Gives us the chance to size him up before we sign him on a one year deal for 2010 !
Lets see now, Jones from the Ian Botham Stand end & Hoggard from the OP end. That would be nice ?!
Grizzzly
The Jones in question is one R.A.Jones,a locally born quickie who I believe only played once in the championship last summer.
More likely to stay fit than S.J at least.
Looks like Batty at 6, Kabir Ali at 7, on paper looks a mighty long tail
Looks like Batty at 6, Kabir Ali at 7, on paper looks a mighty long tail
Like your thinking CJM....hadn't looked at the seconds fixtures and that makes far more (and much more positive)sense.
If you're thinking of the S.Jones of 2005 then have another look Grizz. The Jones who came to the County Ground last season was a number of pounds heavier and a number of yards slower - although he was coming back from another injury.
Richard Jones steps in for Kabir Ali who has been ruled out of tomorrow's LV=County Championship. [www.ecb.co.uk]
Ali out, thats a bonus.
Realy need 4 days good weather to have a good go at getting big points from this one.
Realy need 4 days good weather to have a good go at getting big points from this one.
My first reaction to seeing Banks names was on e of disgust, but then I hoped it was so that he wouldn't have to play for any side.
Hope the weather is better further up the country because there'd be no play near Bicknoller Towers this morning. Heavy rain and wind.
It's the same in Worcester.Not much chance of play today.I'm going up in a mo but expect to spend the day in the pub.
Could be worse, Rob!
Although with the Weather Channel stating the cances of precipitation for the next four days at 90, 70, 30 and 60%, I hope your liver (and your wallet!) will cope.
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Although with the Weather Channel stating the cances of precipitation for the next four days at 90, 70, 30 and 60%, I hope your liver (and your wallet!) will cope.
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Would be a huge blow to our CC hopes if we fail to get the kind of result that everyone bar Warks (rubbish bowling) and Yorks have achieved vs Worcs.
May well be terminal, in fact. Especially, if Langer is right about the pitch so there's little chance of beating them at home, either.
May well be terminal, in fact. Especially, if Langer is right about the pitch so there's little chance of beating them at home, either.
Langer's view of the home pitch is not the definitive statement on it. Many have said it before but results happen. However, with Durham 36 ahead then we would need a reciprocal event where we play and others don't to have a chance.
Still have to beat Notts though whichever way it goes.
So much for the hottest summer on record!!
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Still have to beat Notts though whichever way it goes.
So much for the hottest summer on record!!
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Play abandoned for the day according to the BBC (and, of course, Brother of).
3 days left at best then, need to bat first, race to 400, declare then skittle them twice, easy as that
Grey but dry over Bicknoller pallisades but that's not a lot of good to a place some 70 miles away.....hopeful though. I doubt we'll get enough time to get a result even with some of the over-enthusiastic assessments of our superiority over the Pears.
Is it really only 70 miles away?
The big concern at Worcester is, of course, not only what might be coming from above but what might be lying below...
If we do get a start, it's possible that the pitch will do all sorts, in which case if there were actually three clear days a result may be conceivable.
The big concern at Worcester is, of course, not only what might be coming from above but what might be lying below...
If we do get a start, it's possible that the pitch will do all sorts, in which case if there were actually three clear days a result may be conceivable.
Actually it is probably further...we lose track once things go past Bristol.
Google Earth tells me it's 89.13 miles, wicket-to-wicket, as the Wyvern flies!
Well they've put us in, so they must expect it to do a bit.
400 quickly is obviously Plan A.
400 quickly is obviously Plan A.
I tell a lie: it appears he has also been called upon to "alter the condition" of Arul's footwear!
Yes, LoL........by spiking them!
Are you clairvoyant?
Yes, LoL........by spiking them!
Are you clairvoyant?
Strong start by Mr Bye and Mr Leg Bye.
Notts 149 for 6.
Warks 81 for 3 vs Hants.
We could do with Yorks doing us a favour..
Notts 149 for 6.
Warks 81 for 3 vs Hants.
We could do with Yorks doing us a favour..
One assumed that they put us in because they expected help for their bowlers.
However, it's also possible that the decision was grounded in cowardice.. that is, they have a weakened attack and maybe the thought of a weakened attack trying to defend a total vs Marcus & co did not fill them with confidence?
However, it's also possible that the decision was grounded in cowardice.. that is, they have a weakened attack and maybe the thought of a weakened attack trying to defend a total vs Marcus & co did not fill them with confidence?
just a slight diversion. Found this on youtube yesterday. [">www.youtube.com]
Lovely. Apparently from the twenties, singer unknown. Any ideas LOL ?
Lovely. Apparently from the twenties, singer unknown. Any ideas LOL ?
I think the inspired video footage alone makes this worth tuning in to!
The singer could well be Peter Dawson, famed for renditions of such classics as The Road to Mandalay, many years before Robbie Williams was even imagined.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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The singer could well be Peter Dawson, famed for renditions of such classics as The Road to Mandalay, many years before Robbie Williams was even imagined.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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I don't know whether it's because I've been doing some or just my mood today but is anyone else unimpressed by the commentator who first of all mispronounced Arul's name (in a completely illogical way) and basically said it didn't matter as long as he got it close. (I can imagine the outrage if a non English commentator kept calling Flintoff "Flontiff").
He was then told the correct pronounciation and continues to call him "Suppeeyah" even after that with no pickup by his companion or anyone else.
Not impressed at all.
He was then told the correct pronounciation and continues to call him "Suppeeyah" even after that with no pickup by his companion or anyone else.
Not impressed at all.
New Road is killing cricket.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
If I were feeling mischeivous, Grockle, I'd suggest you ask Peter Traygo what he thinks about it!
Arul having a frustrating time (I would imagine) at and around the 50 mark.
I'd happily take anything close to that from Langer, though.
I'd happily take anything close to that from Langer, though.
Iron always did a lot his damage through the air, though.
And in bars. And wineries.
And in bars. And wineries.
Yes but FE I now call him Treego because I was told the true pronunciation. This idiot is still calling him Supeeyah even though he's no longer there!! I also call Zander "de Brain" even though it makes no sense. That's what the guy wants to be called and people ought to respect his wishes.
No problem with people having trouble with names. But first of all IT ISN'T ALRIGHT and you should find out if you can what people are called and secondly once you know what the name is you should attempt to use the correct pronunciation.
No problem with people having trouble with names. But first of all IT ISN'T ALRIGHT and you should find out if you can what people are called and secondly once you know what the name is you should attempt to use the correct pronunciation.
The one that I keep hearing from non-Somerset people and am not actually sure of is Kiesvetter.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
... and now I am hearing Kies to rhyme with pies.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Just call him Craig.
Much easier.
Unless of course you're talking about someone else.
Much easier.
Unless of course you're talking about someone else.
I believe he calls AGod every evening.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Why are they talking about Craig? That would be quite a big collapse if he's now batting!?
They're talking about his prospects for England.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Oooh.....did I touch a nerve, Grockle? I was only teasing!
And I agree with your point completely.
They were discussing Craig as a potential KP replacement although they know he is not yet available.
And I agree with your point completely.
They were discussing Craig as a potential KP replacement although they know he is not yet available.
Lord Tresco of Keynsham is lording it laudably.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Yep there's a hundred for the man with the Bang 168 balls and 20 4's.
It is a nerve FE 'coz iIfind myself having to remind regular Somerset commentators about it. I'll now of course forget them all during the Notts game :-).... and you'll remind me immediately :-(
Is it
KEYS wetter
KIES wetter
KEYSVetter
KIESVwetter
As you say BJ....Craig is a better bet.
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It is a nerve FE 'coz iIfind myself having to remind regular Somerset commentators about it. I'll now of course forget them all during the Notts game :-).... and you'll remind me immediately :-(
Is it
KEYS wetter
KIES wetter
KEYSVetter
KIESVwetter
As you say BJ....Craig is a better bet.
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Did anyone notice that Langer scored his 28,000th firstclass run a few minutes ago?
Yes, I did.
(but the commentator, who is sponsored by AGod Enterprises Inc) did mention that he was shuffling)
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Yes, I did.
(but the commentator, who is sponsored by AGod Enterprises Inc) did mention that he was shuffling)
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Don't talk about his score... do not voodoo him! The radio people are not too impressed with poor old Gareth I'm afraid.
Yeah the discussion about Craig's eligibility v Steve Davis missed entirely the relevance of Pietersen in context and talked about him simply as an Englishman.
Not impressed again.
Yeah the discussion about Craig's eligibility v Steve Davis missed entirely the relevance of Pietersen in context and talked about him simply as an Englishman.
Not impressed again.
"They were discussing Craig as a potential KP replacement although they know he is not yet available."
Crikey, that's probably a bit previous!? Prior would, I think, be the first one in his sights although I think that Matt has been excellent with the bat, thus far.
Crikey, that's probably a bit previous!? Prior would, I think, be the first one in his sights although I think that Matt has been excellent with the bat, thus far.
Well, this is certainly more like it (score wise) from Langer, so far.
Let's hope this is a sign that he can get his form back, after all, and will do well in the key game vs Notts.
He's certainly scored at a good lick today which is important in the context of a 3-day game.
Let's hope this is a sign that he can get his form back, after all, and will do well in the key game vs Notts.
He's certainly scored at a good lick today which is important in the context of a 3-day game.
Well done to Langer for scoring at an excellent rate and Banger, of course.
If the weather is going to ruin the match, at least we can get maximum batting points, which is also our best chance of winning the match.
If the weather is going to ruin the match, at least we can get maximum batting points, which is also our best chance of winning the match.
Botham: This three-day cricket is a lot better than that four-day stuff isn't it?
Quote:Is it
KEYS wetter
KIES wetter
KEYSVetter
KIESVwetter
The one it almost certainly isn't, from a technically linguistic perspective, is the first. "KEYS" is the appropriate Germanic pronunciation of "Kies", so logic would suggest that if the first syllable is pronounced "Germanically", then so should be the second, which would require "VETTER".
But don't the Afrikaaners pronounce "w" as "w"?
If we can declare at 400, then we might be able to put them under pressure. Their batting is far stronger than the heavily depleted bowling line-up they've put out for this one - at least on paper - but they may be so demoralised that they might be prepared to go quietly (twice.)
Superb performance so far,well done lads.
Did anyone notice that Langer just scored his 28,000th first class run?
Every one of them for us too I believe.
What a man.
Did anyone notice that Langer just scored his 28,000th first class run?
Every one of them for us too I believe.
What a man.
***(I know Grockle.I'm winding him up.Please keep it secret though.We don't want it getting out)***(T/S-Top Secret)(DND-Do Not Divulge)
I was so impressed with your stat attack I just had to repeat it.
Forgive me Arthur,for I have sinned.
Forgive me Arthur,for I have sinned.
Intriguing (if initially unsuccessful) startegy in promoting BoBo then KeySweater.
Attempting to get to a declarable position overnight?
Attempting to get to a declarable position overnight?
Justin Langer is just five runs short of the most first class runs ever scored by an Australian batsman - a certain Sir Donald Bradman.
I wonder if his eyesight will hold up long enough for him to get there.
I wonder if his eyesight will hold up long enough for him to get there.
He'd better pop into Spec Savers on the way to the ground tomorrow morning.
Dear BJ
I give you permission to post on this site when Trescothick has scored his next 21 runs, taking him to 1000 for the CC season - but if you're dilatory about it, I'll get in first.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Dear BJ
I give you permission to post on this site when Trescothick has scored his next 21 runs, taking him to 1000 for the CC season - but if you're dilatory about it, I'll get in first.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
You calling me dilatory?
I may be slow but in no way dilatory.
I'll just copy you.
It's much easier.
I hope that Langer gets practicing his shuffle and flick to cow corner tonight.
That would be a remarkable achievement.
Did I mention that he scored his 28,000th first class run today?
Me and stats.
We're like that,like that I tell you.
I may be slow but in no way dilatory.
I'll just copy you.
It's much easier.
I hope that Langer gets practicing his shuffle and flick to cow corner tonight.
That would be a remarkable achievement.
Did I mention that he scored his 28,000th first class run today?
Me and stats.
We're like that,like that I tell you.
... gentlemen concludes the entertainment for today.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Just got back from Worcester,great entertainment going for points between the showers,great knock from Banger and classic innings from JL,outscoring Banger in their partnership.
Certainly not,apart from one mis-hit,which went for six,the timing and shot selection was superb.
Thanks SMJW - good to hear a first hand account and that our captain is in form.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
AS I said yesterday
"now watch JL get a ton tomorrow"
Not quite but delighted with him
"now watch JL get a ton tomorrow"
Not quite but delighted with him
Full marks to the management team and players for a very positive performance, having been put in in difficult conditions.
Lets hope he gets a few more tomorrow yet...
Guess plan is to get to 400 asap, then we have decision to declare straight away or smash 450-500 with aim of only batting once.
Think we have to declare at 400 though as so little time left, bat on only hampers our remote chances of getting 20 wickets in what 175 overs max
Guess plan is to get to 400 asap, then we have decision to declare straight away or smash 450-500 with aim of only batting once.
Think we have to declare at 400 though as so little time left, bat on only hampers our remote chances of getting 20 wickets in what 175 overs max
Wet.
Apparently.
I'm sure we'll get enough time to secure full batting and bowling points though.
Apparently.
I'm sure we'll get enough time to secure full batting and bowling points though.
There's time to take twenty wickets, yet!
Or alternatively, with them needing the win possibly even more than we do (and if it's still allowed) might some double forfeiture come into play?
Or alternatively, with them needing the win possibly even more than we do (and if it's still allowed) might some double forfeiture come into play?
Well sending trigger in at number 4 suggested that Langer is up for it however it can be arranged. It really is make or break so we have little to lose from going for the win.
I don't think Worcs will be up for much contrivance, FE.
Not unless the pitch is really flat. I would think they'll be glad to escape with a draw against us, if they can, and then try and beat the teams around them, later in the piece.
Not unless the pitch is really flat. I would think they'll be glad to escape with a draw against us, if they can, and then try and beat the teams around them, later in the piece.
A very interesting stat about Langer that was highlighted on the BBC:
"Langer was six runs short of beating Sir Don Bradman's record of first-class runs scored by an Australian at stumps.
Bradman made 28,067 first-class runs during his illustrious career, with 38-year-old Langer now on 28,062."
I'll be watching Cricinfo intently at 11am to see if he can get those extra few runs!
"Langer was six runs short of beating Sir Don Bradman's record of first-class runs scored by an Australian at stumps.
Bradman made 28,067 first-class runs during his illustrious career, with 38-year-old Langer now on 28,062."
I'll be watching Cricinfo intently at 11am to see if he can get those extra few runs!
I also see that Marcus is only 21 away from 1000 First class (and also County Championship) runs scored this season, with only just over half the season gone.
Another impressive feat!
Another impressive feat!
Draws won't help Worcs where they are; 20-odd points adrift having played a game more.
But I suspect you are right that contrivance is unlikley.
Oh well, it'll just have to be 20 wickets in the conventional way then. I'd happily see us forfeit the last batting point in pursuit of victory.
350-up and bowl them out for 150 anyone?
But I suspect you are right that contrivance is unlikley.
Oh well, it'll just have to be 20 wickets in the conventional way then. I'd happily see us forfeit the last batting point in pursuit of victory.
350-up and bowl them out for 150 anyone?
I'd still go on to 400. It should not take long. If we start to get stuck, then we could still just declare, anyway, if we think it best.
Seems like Craig is racking up the remaining runs all by himself. The 400 is up, but no declaration has been confimed on the commentary as yet.
Perhaps they'll wait til half an hour before lunch?
[Edited to put the correct player's name in!]
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Perhaps they'll wait til half an hour before lunch?
[Edited to put the correct player's name in!]
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Perhaps not? It's now raining and the players are off.
Surely the declaration must now come?
Surely the declaration must now come?
Langer is a genius: he knew rain would come precisely ten minutes after 400 was reached and quite rightly reckoned there was no point in spending those ten minutes in the pavilion.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
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Did you know that amazing stat about Langer that everyone,Auntie included,seem to be heralding,LoL?
Us stat boffins will have to work harder you know.
Us stat boffins will have to work harder you know.
Surely the only scenario that makes sense now is the double declaration, when the number of overs we've had is more or less the same as the theoretical number left?
I thought the Bad Light rules had been changed so that the umpires just take the teams off - i.e the light is not offered?
In which case, I am having a bit of difficulty understanding what we are aiming to do at the moment?
If Worcs could just choose to take the light if offered, I would understand why we're just batting on but...?
In which case, I am having a bit of difficulty understanding what we are aiming to do at the moment?
If Worcs could just choose to take the light if offered, I would understand why we're just batting on but...?
Having been told by BR to pronounce it "keys", the commentator changed from "kies" to "kays". Perhaps we should tell him it is really "kiss sweeter" and he might get it right.
He also congratulated Langer on surpassing Bradman's Test record - maybe that's some record to do with declaring an innings closed after the match has finished.
LoL
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He also congratulated Langer on surpassing Bradman's Test record - maybe that's some record to do with declaring an innings closed after the match has finished.
LoL
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Cricinfo now has the score at 428/6d - so maybe something is going to happen soon.
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LoL
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Our BR, not the one with the brief case.
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LoL
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Does anyone know what is happening at Worcester at the moment? If so, I'd be grateful to hear about it.
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LoL
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soddingly sodden, it must be.
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LoL
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This could be the end of this one as a contest. Unless both Langer and Solanki are up for manipulating a one day fight.
We must declare now if there is any more play today and then?
How much does Vikram need a win? I know how much we do.
We must declare now if there is any more play today and then?
How much does Vikram need a win? I know how much we do.
Well now Cricinfo says they're having tea, so perhaps when they've had supper and a nice cooked breakfast we might get some play again.
I have to go underground (don't ask) for the next four or five days to sort out a little problem in Flanders and was hoping the destiny of this match would be clear by the time I go out of contact tomorrow morning.
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I have to go underground (don't ask) for the next four or five days to sort out a little problem in Flanders and was hoping the destiny of this match would be clear by the time I go out of contact tomorrow morning.
LoL
Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter
It's all happening now; twenty wickets by nightfall, please.
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LoL
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...only nineteen needed by nightfall now.
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Inspirational by Langer he put a leg slip in for Stiff and the very next ball the batsman was caught in that position.
Mispronouncing our 'keeper's family name is bad enough, but persistently calling him Carl is even worse!
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I think it was yesterday, FE, that you posted a list of four alternative pronunciations. Clearly you failed to include the half dozen other variants that our man at New Road keeps inventing.
And Suppeeeah could well be Arul Gimblett's boy.
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And Suppeeeah could well be Arul Gimblett's boy.
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only seventeen to go now. (That's six points in the bag, with a minimum of four for a draw or, dare we hope, even more....)
Sixteen to go. BJ is required to release an eastbound pigeon as soon as there are none left.
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The birds are well fed,the up train from Minehead dropped off some extra special corn especially for the game.
Only 15 left to go now,the remaining ones will be dispatched at regular intervals until mid afternoon tommorow.
I hope they reach the smoke safely.
Only 15 left to go now,the remaining ones will be dispatched at regular intervals until mid afternoon tommorow.
I hope they reach the smoke safely.
if there was more time left we'd have this one in the bag.
as it is, seeing the position of both teams realy hope the 2 skippers get together and set up a chase tomorrow, say 350 off 70.
we could try and win it as we are but fear time and weather will get to us first and it'll be just the 12 points
as it is, seeing the position of both teams realy hope the 2 skippers get together and set up a chase tomorrow, say 350 off 70.
we could try and win it as we are but fear time and weather will get to us first and it'll be just the 12 points
We'd have to be WAY more generous than that for Solanki to even give us the time of day, wsm - maybe 280 off 65.
Even then, I'd say chances are next to zero. Best bet appears to be to get out with 12 pts by bowling them out once, then hope to enforce follow-on and have time to do it again.
We've done very well in this game to get as far as we have with so much rain.
Even then, I'd say chances are next to zero. Best bet appears to be to get out with 12 pts by bowling them out once, then hope to enforce follow-on and have time to do it again.
We've done very well in this game to get as far as we have with so much rain.
not sure about that, they re doomed at the moment, they'll get what 8-9 points max from this game with a draw, surely they have to go for wins?
as such they may be tempted into chasing something tough-ish, JL wont agree to anything too easy as we have 12 points in the bag as it stands.
i say 350 off 70 or something similar could be a go-er
as such they may be tempted into chasing something tough-ish, JL wont agree to anything too easy as we have 12 points in the bag as it stands.
i say 350 off 70 or something similar could be a go-er
Right on the nail SP. Can't see them declaring - so we'll just have to do it the hard way !
Dare I ask what the weather forecast is for tomorrow ?
Grizzzly
Dare I ask what the weather forecast is for tomorrow ?
Grizzzly
why wont they declare?
in their position surely its worth risking say one batting point and the 4 for a draw to get 14 for a win?
in their position surely its worth risking say one batting point and the 4 for a draw to get 14 for a win?
I'm with SP (surprisingly enough! ).
We've taken 6 top order wickets in 45 overs, so we have to back ourselves to win. If we can take no more than 10 overs or so to get the four that will enforce the follow-on we'll 80 overs to run through them again. Game on!
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We've taken 6 top order wickets in 45 overs, so we have to back ourselves to win. If we can take no more than 10 overs or so to get the four that will enforce the follow-on we'll 80 overs to run through them again. Game on!
i hope you are right but fear weather will hold us to a draw.
be interested to know which, if either captain were keen on a manufactured chase.
i'll settle for trying our luck tomorrow, as stated 4 wickets by say 12.30 tomorrow, (clearly below the follow on target) then we need to put the pressure on early second time.
realy is a shame the weather looks like stopping a certain 22 points, luck is shining on durham currently so to speak...
be interested to know which, if either captain were keen on a manufactured chase.
i'll settle for trying our luck tomorrow, as stated 4 wickets by say 12.30 tomorrow, (clearly below the follow on target) then we need to put the pressure on early second time.
realy is a shame the weather looks like stopping a certain 22 points, luck is shining on durham currently so to speak...
We are totally in the driving seat...but rain tomorrow will leave us with 12 pts which from what will be only a little more than 2 days worth of overs is magnificent. WE just need the Yorkshire batting to show bit of grit.
...or the weather to hold Notts up as well.
What's the follow-on for this match - do Worcs have to get to within 200 runs, ie 229?
Edited to get sums right.
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What's the follow-on for this match - do Worcs have to get to within 200 runs, ie 229?
Edited to get sums right.
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nope, first day wash out means 3 day game so follow on is still 150, so 278, think thats right?
if they get past that we may as well shake hands there and then i think
if they get past that we may as well shake hands there and then i think
I can't see any connivance occurring, whatever the weather. We have to bowl them out before lunch and before they reach the follow-on target and then try to do it all over again. Why would Langer risk the guaranteed 12 points? I assume he batted on beyond 400 to improve the chances of being able to enforce that follow-on.
I shan't be around to follow progress, but I've put BJ in charge (which should do it).
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I shan't be around to follow progress, but I've put BJ in charge (which should do it).
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Worcester innings, 38 extras with 20 no balls from 45 overs, comments please.
So they are 114 from safety and the end of the game effectively. Not sure what he was planning. The only reason to go past 400 was for the extra point and he may have left them out there because the weathr was closing in and getting the Worcs guys in before the rain wouldn't have been of much use.
Not looking hopeful though the men with the pill have done their job this evening.
Just have to get the prayer mat out and hope for more than maximum extra points.
Not looking hopeful though the men with the pill have done their job this evening.
Just have to get the prayer mat out and hope for more than maximum extra points.
Quote:The only reason to go past 400 was for the extra point
With hindsight, I'd have to disagree. Surely part of the point, although I didn't see it at the time is that if we'd pulled out at 400 and they'd had the overs they should have had since, they'd quite possibly have already passed the 250 that would have been needed to effectively kill the game off. Those few extra runs (but more importantly the time it took to get them) have left the game very much alive at the close of day 3.
When the commentators couldn’t understand why we didn’t declare at 400 that was my thought that he was making the follow-on target that bit more, then the rain before lunch forced his hand.
It is hard to know when to declare but I think Justin made the correct decision as it turn out.
It is hard to know when to declare but I think Justin made the correct decision as it turn out.
It's a shame he declared at all as Kieswetter was doing well for my fantasy team.
Alas I can't have Tres as I've used all my transfers up, but if I'd picked him he'd have been carp, just like my lottery and premium bonds tickets.
Alas I can't have Tres as I've used all my transfers up, but if I'd picked him he'd have been carp, just like my lottery and premium bonds tickets.
If it hadn't rained before lunch I would have guessed Langer going to at least 450(CK was scoring quickly and no doubt Stiff would have tried a Yorkshire) The only possible way to win is to enforce the follow on
Yep that makes sense and is still on.
IF we get a full days play in tomorrow we can put theder pressure.
We Have to bowl them out by 12.30 then should have about 70 overs to do it a second time.
If they are 4 or 5 down by tea second time around we still have a chance.
Almost as importantly we need Yorks to show some fight at Scarborough
IF we get a full days play in tomorrow we can put theder pressure.
We Have to bowl them out by 12.30 then should have about 70 overs to do it a second time.
If they are 4 or 5 down by tea second time around we still have a chance.
Almost as importantly we need Yorks to show some fight at Scarborough
Come on peeps. Believe. We got their top 6 out this evening in much less than a session. All we want is another 14 wickets, yes, just 14, that's all, in what might well be another rain interrupted day tomorrow. Believe. Five wickets per session. That's all, and an early finish for good measure. Believe. BELIEVE. I can feel it in my water. We're nearly there.
"We're nearly there lads, nearly there"
I can hear it now, about midday no doubt...
I can hear it now, about midday no doubt...
No rain interruptions tomorrow and we can do it.
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I can't believe that anybody doubts it to be honest.
A dry day and this one is in the bag.
Have faith.
A dry day and this one is in the bag.
Have faith.
I don't understand why there is not more optimism (apart than from the usual suspects) about picking up 4 wickets quickly in the morning certainly for less than a 100 runs and pushing on to win.
I have more confidence this season about mopping up the tail reasonably quickly mainly due to our secret weapon Mr. Stiff and that will certainly set up an interesting finish.
This is one when, if you weren't at the ground you can't really comment on the timing of the declaration, it was certainly not just a question of runs and overs. I think JL got it just about right and our bowlers responded magnificently in the last session.
We took the top six this evening, if we have them again by Tea tomorrow then it is going to be an interesting final session.
I have more confidence this season about mopping up the tail reasonably quickly mainly due to our secret weapon Mr. Stiff and that will certainly set up an interesting finish.
This is one when, if you weren't at the ground you can't really comment on the timing of the declaration, it was certainly not just a question of runs and overs. I think JL got it just about right and our bowlers responded magnificently in the last session.
We took the top six this evening, if we have them again by Tea tomorrow then it is going to be an interesting final session.
I think the lack of supreme optimisim in some is due to the weather forecast, Congar, rather than the ability of the bowlers.
"With hindsight, I'd have to disagree. Surely part of the point, although I didn't see it at the time is that if we'd pulled out at 400 and they'd had the overs they should have had since, they'd quite possibly have already passed the 250 that would have been needed to effectively kill the game off. Those few extra runs (but more importantly the time it took to get them) have left the game very much alive at the close of day 3."
I think that line of thinking - had Langer been thinking it - would imply a slight lack of faith in the bowling, which subsequent events on the day did not bear out (apart from all the no-balls.)
I think we have about a 30% chance of forcing a win, if the day is wholly dry. But I'm not sure that's the forecast?
On paper, at least, the Worcs batting line-up is not bad (top 6) and so one would think they might find more fibre second time around?
I think that line of thinking - had Langer been thinking it - would imply a slight lack of faith in the bowling, which subsequent events on the day did not bear out (apart from all the no-balls.)
I think we have about a 30% chance of forcing a win, if the day is wholly dry. But I'm not sure that's the forecast?
On paper, at least, the Worcs batting line-up is not bad (top 6) and so one would think they might find more fibre second time around?
I don't think it's a significant "lack of faith" to be concerned that you might concede 250 on a pitch on which you've just made 400 for 5.
The best chance of forcing a win was always going to be by batting only once.
As there obviously wasn't going to be any kind of forfeiture arrangment, I think the declaration was timed correctly.
The best chance of forcing a win was always going to be by batting only once.
As there obviously wasn't going to be any kind of forfeiture arrangment, I think the declaration was timed correctly.
Nope in this case it's an attack of realism I'm afraid. It's raining here now and the Worcestershire wicket is sodden from what I can deduce.
With a full day of uninterrupted play this could have been a goer (as long as we got them out for less than another 114) but I'll be surprised if we get on the go on time even given the precipitation on Bicknoller Acres at this present moment.
With a full day of uninterrupted play this could have been a goer (as long as we got them out for less than another 114) but I'll be surprised if we get on the go on time even given the precipitation on Bicknoller Acres at this present moment.
Well, if that's the case, let's just hope we get to at least end their first innings and get maximum points.
Meterologists say there is something in that old St Swithin's day thing - not what happens on the day but what happens for a week or so either side. The pattern then often becomes ensconsed for most of July and August, which is likely to mean that the raging summer we were promised has been cancelled...
ergo.... if we're lucky other teams will also lose the chance to beat up on poor old Worcs.
Meterologists say there is something in that old St Swithin's day thing - not what happens on the day but what happens for a week or so either side. The pattern then often becomes ensconsed for most of July and August, which is likely to mean that the raging summer we were promised has been cancelled...
ergo.... if we're lucky other teams will also lose the chance to beat up on poor old Worcs.
This commentator is comedy gold!
"Craig KAYsVetter: we had lots of different pronunciations yesterday; but we settled on KEYsWetter in the end!"
And again:
"TRAYgo and Hildreth might feature quite a lot (on commentary) today, because at least we know how to pronounce their names".
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"Craig KAYsVetter: we had lots of different pronunciations yesterday; but we settled on KEYsWetter in the end!"
And again:
"TRAYgo and Hildreth might feature quite a lot (on commentary) today, because at least we know how to pronounce their names".
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Langer takes a high quality catch apparently, to add to his runs and ingenious captaincy. He's having quite a match!
According to the commentators, a great reaction catch by Langer. Not bad for someone whose eye (so it is alleged by some) has gone.
As I write, Arul is on a hat-trick ...
As I write, Arul is on a hat-trick ...
It is on Jim, try restarting your computer.
Realplayer wouldn't start with me yesterday until I did.
Realplayer wouldn't start with me yesterday until I did.
Justin may think that Stiff is too much of a gamble with only 40 or so runs to play with. I'd have thought we'd be more likely to see Willow and Thomas.
It was more like 80 runs when I posted (and it's still 60-odd now), which is why I suggested it when I did.
And I would suggest we want to keep Willo and Alfie completely fresh for their second dig.
Whelan caught behind off AC, having been dropped by de Bruyn (apparently, it was a routine catch) in AC's previous over.
second easy catch dropped off ARC since he began his comeback. I can feel the wrath from here.
12 pts in the bag at least - I guess that's all we can realistically expect. Yorks 77-2, 87 behind - although we'd have wanted to beat Worcs, we might not do too badly out of this round.
Good to see Andy C mopping up the tail, with three wickets in the innings.
Now for the follow-on. Get those pigeons revved up, BJ.
Now for the follow-on. Get those pigeons revved up, BJ.
I'd be tempted to give ARC a (short) burst with the new ball, given that his tail must be up now.
I'd open with Caddy and Willow and have Thomas first change.
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I'd open with Caddy and Willow and have Thomas first change.
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So 17 overs is a few more than we would have liked to take this morning. Take 19 off leaves 77 to bowl them out again in my book.
PS: despite the Stiff suggestion (made just after Andrew "comfortably" pulled Caddick for 4), I am delighted that Caddy is starting to pick up wickets on his comeback.
PS: despite the Stiff suggestion (made just after Andrew "comfortably" pulled Caddick for 4), I am delighted that Caddy is starting to pick up wickets on his comeback.
Need to get both openers within the first 10 overs or so, I'd say. Both have adhesive qualities.
Well it's better than I expected up to now. Big job still. Nice to see the Cadman in the wickets. Please stay off weather and this could become mighty interesting.
Quote:I'd be tempted to give ARC a (short) burst with the new ball, given that his tail must be up now.
One-nil to you, AG.
I'd still have gone the other way.
6 wkts in the first sesssion in which they batted. 5 in the second. If we get 4 in the afternoon session, that could set-up a fascinating final session.
41 extras in the first innings, of which 31 were no-balls, and now 2 more NB's in the second innings in 8 overs.
Anybody know who the guilty party was?
Anybody know who the guilty party was?
1st innings: Stiff 5, Caddy 5, PT 2 (numbers of no-balls, not runs scored from them)
2nd innings: Caddy 1.
Hardly criminal!
2nd innings: Caddy 1.
Hardly criminal!
My final nine pigeons are getting rather wet at the moment.
I hope this doesn't reach Worcester.
I hope this doesn't reach Worcester.
Are runs scored off no-balls going on bowlers figures at the minute?
If not, then that makes Stiff's 5 overs look extremely expensive.
If not, then that makes Stiff's 5 overs look extremely expensive.
As I suspected would be the case, looks like Worcs have roused themselves for a much better 2nd innings effort. Surely going to be a draw now....
Of course, if they finish just two or three down, we will have to ask KT and Justin Langer whether it's also 'NOT possible,' to take 10 wickets on a last day pitch at Worcester (including the four we took this morning.)
With Solanki and Smith stopping the rot and the partnership over 100 you get the feeling that this is going the way of Hampshire. Bit too loose from Stiffy (who seems to be carrying an injury....ooooeeeer) and Trigger (who nearly gave himself one with a stop in the field).
Little sign of first innings 3 wicket Caddick or second innings morning wickets Suppiah though - may still be a sting in the tail perhaps.
Little sign of first innings 3 wicket Caddick or second innings morning wickets Suppiah though - may still be a sting in the tail perhaps.
From afar, it appears that Arul may be making some progress with his bowling. Have you got that impression in person, Grockle?
Zander strikes with them still behind.....just.
One BIG last effort guys!
One BIG last effort guys!
I'm not there AG just listening on the radionogram. Justin has faith in him a little more and I suppose like anyone else he needs time at the crease to really hone the art.
The problem with this innings, as with Hampshire is that in 7 runs time, every run counts double. It's a run ahead for them and a run we have to have time to get. We need a flurry of wickets and if they survive beyond 4 some good dry weather if there is to be any chance.
Good to see the back of Solanki though. Must log off to buy internet stuff more often.
The problem with this innings, as with Hampshire is that in 7 runs time, every run counts double. It's a run ahead for them and a run we have to have time to get. We need a flurry of wickets and if they survive beyond 4 some good dry weather if there is to be any chance.
Good to see the back of Solanki though. Must log off to buy internet stuff more often.
Sorry, Grockle, I meant had you gleaned that impression from recent home games?
I get back from the chemist to find we haven't won yet.
Come on everyone,get working.
Come on everyone,get working.
Worcester's batsmen have batted as they are capable of doing and attempted to score rather than defend.MEanwhile Yorks have done likewise so far so if both games end in draws then we gain 1 point on Notts, which given the weather is a very good effort
Yes.. Durham will, I assume, consider themselves the true winners of this round, though.
4 wickets now for the Cadmeister. That could be the most encouraging facet of this game .. because there's no doubt that he, more than anyone, knows how to take wickets on Mr Frost's tracks and so if he is coming back to something like form....
Could be very, very timely ahead of the Notts game?
Could be very, very timely ahead of the Notts game?
Great effort lads. Just wasn't to be in the end.
I know many will have a pop at Justin's declaration, but the odd 28 runs and the odd half hour was not the difference between winning and drawing.
I know many will have a pop at Justin's declaration, but the odd 28 runs and the odd half hour was not the difference between winning and drawing.
I think the weather won this game.
You did your best lads roll on the next game.
I don't know personally what the Worcester pitch is like for batting on, to have got it like this for batting after all the trouble with flooding must have taken a lot of hard work by the groundsman.
You did your best lads roll on the next game.
I don't know personally what the Worcester pitch is like for batting on, to have got it like this for batting after all the trouble with flooding must have taken a lot of hard work by the groundsman.
good effort but rain ruined a nailed on 22 points.
Durham looking huge favourites now, rely need to stay in touch pre sept 1 then hope for a 18-20 swing on them in that game.
Harmy in the 3rd test team will help!
Durham looking huge favourites now, rely need to stay in touch pre sept 1 then hope for a 18-20 swing on them in that game.
Harmy in the 3rd test team will help!
I think the major differences between ourselves and Durham is that our batting is much better, as is their bowling. The advantage to them is that these bowlers are needed to bowl sides out twice. It doesn't matter how many runs we score, if we can't assist Willo with the new ball.
Yeah but they need the time as well Both. They took 14 in just over a day and we lost nearly one and a half to the weather.
Now whether they can do it against stronger sides....well we'll have to see against Notts won't we?
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Now whether they can do it against stronger sides....well we'll have to see against Notts won't we?
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wsm fan offers his condolences on another thread to Yorkshire's Gale, dismissed for 99 today.
Given that they saved the draw comfortably, I'm now prepared to admit that I felt a little sorry for Solanki today.
It must be tough leading Worcs at the moment, and he's always struck me as one of the game's "good guys", so I wouldn't have begrudged him his ton today.
As to "huge favourites", I wouldn't put it that strongly. We're within (just) one maximum points win of them, and I didn't expect that a month ago.
If Sussex can do us a favour, and we beat Notts it's going to get very interesting!
Given that they saved the draw comfortably, I'm now prepared to admit that I felt a little sorry for Solanki today.
It must be tough leading Worcs at the moment, and he's always struck me as one of the game's "good guys", so I wouldn't have begrudged him his ton today.
As to "huge favourites", I wouldn't put it that strongly. We're within (just
) one maximum points win of them, and I didn't expect that a month ago.
If Sussex can do us a favour, and we beat Notts it's going to get very interesting!
Unfortunately Durham V Sussex next week is at Riverside, with the home attack looking the more potent of the two on what, I`m sure, will yet again be a results wicket favouring the quickies.
Perhaps we should be cheering Sussex on in the FPT final at Lord`s tomorrow to give their morale a boost.
Perhaps we should be cheering Sussex on in the FPT final at Lord`s tomorrow to give their morale a boost.
Ah but there's always the chance that a result pitch, combined with a decent journeyman bowler having a good day can backfire.
Law of averages says it has to happen to Durham at some stage.
What price one or more of Corey Collymore, Jason Lewry, Yasir Arafat or even Mike Yardy having a purple patch?
Not forgetting their international strike bolwer, Luke Wright!
Law of averages says it has to happen to Durham at some stage.
What price one or more of Corey Collymore, Jason Lewry, Yasir Arafat or even Mike Yardy having a purple patch?
Not forgetting their international strike bolwer, Luke Wright!
Botham's dead right. We have one of Somerset's best ever batting lineups but it will only get us so far, at Taunton or anywhere else, without the bowling to back it up.
Well there's a statement of the flaming obvious KT.
And a side with great bowling side get nowhere if the batsmen don't score enough runs.
And a side with equal abilities in each area need them to contribute equally for them to get adequate results
But this wasn't a case of lack of ability, this was because of lack of time. No first day. On and off second day. Lost middle of third day. We were stopped by Smith, Solanki and rain. Do you doubt we would have taken the 20 required given the extra 100+ overs?
The next game will decide whether this side can do the job of winning in a close game over FOUR days......hopefully.
I'm not sure myself but I'll at least not write them off on the basis of a badly weather affected result where they took 14 of the 20 wickets required. I suppose I'm looking at what they achieved....my standards may not be as high but they got closer than I would have expected.
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And a side with great bowling side get nowhere if the batsmen don't score enough runs.
And a side with equal abilities in each area need them to contribute equally for them to get adequate results
But this wasn't a case of lack of ability, this was because of lack of time. No first day. On and off second day. Lost middle of third day. We were stopped by Smith, Solanki and rain. Do you doubt we would have taken the 20 required given the extra 100+ overs?
The next game will decide whether this side can do the job of winning in a close game over FOUR days......hopefully.
I'm not sure myself but I'll at least not write them off on the basis of a badly weather affected result where they took 14 of the 20 wickets required. I suppose I'm looking at what they achieved....my standards may not be as high but they got closer than I would have expected.
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Yes, we did well in the wet circumstances.
Maybe we could have bowled a bit more tightly today (see AH's comments on the other site), but to have even got into the position we did was a major achievement.
Next few weeks will make all the difference.
Here's hoping !
Grizzzly
Maybe we could have bowled a bit more tightly today (see AH's comments on the other site), but to have even got into the position we did was a major achievement.
Next few weeks will make all the difference.
Here's hoping !
Grizzzly
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