What Price The Women's Game?


By Chief-Cum-Lately
December 27 2020

It was only in April that Exeter Chiefs joined the Women’s Premier 15s. Since then Susie Appleby and her team have endured a really torrid time trying to recruit and establish a professional and competitive Women’s Team during the pandemic. Women were recruited from far afield including Japan, Spain, Canada, USA and the Netherlands as well as across the UK. These girls faced not just a new club environment with new team mates but a new country, new jobs and new homes for many as well. It is a credit to all concerned that working largely behind closed doors they overcame the many problems they faced.

Their first few games, against much more experienced teams, most of which are playing in their 4th Season in the top flight, were a real challenge but at almost the halfway point we have won 3 out of 8 games and with a game in hand we stand at 6th in the table. The game against Sale was our first opportunity to see the girls in action when a limited number of spectators were allowed in. It was evident from that game that they had not been wasting their time behind closed doors. In an excellent performance the Chiefs DNA was evident throughout. With a dominant forwards performance they were superior to the opposition in every facet of the game. There are 4 fixtures in January from which we should be targeting 2 wins and at least two losing bonus points. Bristol away is first up. We had a narrow loss by 2 points against them in early October. We also play Worcester away against whom we registered our first win when we beat them in November. Based on our increased experience and our performance against Sale both of these fixtures are eminently winnable.

Much more challenging will be our two home games against the two teams at the top of the table. Both Harlequins and Saracens are unbeaten so far and have won every game with a try bonus point. However our 38 – 0 win against Sale suggests that they will not find it so easy to score tries against us. With vocal support from our 16th player a couple of losing bonus points looks probable with the possibility of a shock win! It looks like too big a hill to climb to make the top four this year but we are building and should be a very strong contender next year in our second season. Traditionally attendances at women’s premiership games has not been great; the average for the 2018 season was less than 500. However Harlequins hold the record for a club game at over 4,000 for one of their ‘special’ games in London. The 1100 we had at Sandy Park for the Sale game shows the potential we have to build on and Sandy Park still holds the record I think for the attendance at a standalone fixture for a Women’s international in England.

So who is going to be among the 16th man (or woman)? Season ticket holders have been offered a ‘special’ deal for the January home games priced at £10 per ticket. Hopefully this will become a permanent policy of giving season ticket holders the option to buy reduced price tickets for the women’s home games. Our season tickets currently entitle us to about 16 days at Sandy Park to watch the home games. With the women’s team we have the opportunity provided by an additional 9 competitive home games to enjoy more days at Sandy Park. However the pricing of these extra days will be critical. Supporting Chiefs currently costs us (2) about £3000 pa; Season Ticket in the less expensive end of the West Grandstand, refreshments, travel expenses, extension games and the occasional away trip. The women’s games are worth something extra but not a large amount plus if I couldn’t attend the women’s games because of cost I would feel a little cheated. As was said when the new team was launched it’s one club not two separate clubs.
What do others think?

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What Price The Women's Game?
Discussion started by thechiefstribe.com (IP Logged), 27/12/2020 19:50
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BentFeathers
BentFeathers
27/12/2020 20:07
While I wish them well I worry that the additional overheads which the women’s game will bring in terms of running costs for the additional team and the additional wear and tear on the pitch will not be repaid in terms of gate receipts.

clalan
clalan
27/12/2020 21:26
I cannot make the women’s game at this moment, but if they can price tickets at these prices in the future, those who cannot afford the men’s games will have the chance to support a Chiefs side. The women deserve good support and getting a few thousand plus for home matches will pay the wages,, women will come if they are entertained, add on top merchandise food etc, it can be another good revenue stream.

I am concerned at the pitch, it is showing far more wear than previous seasons, let’s hope the grounds man can get it sorted.



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Jingo
Bod
27/12/2020 21:36
I believe Tony Rowe entered into his commitment to Womens rugby at Exeter cognisant that there is an existing large interest for W&G rugby across the Devon and Cornwall constituency - the England Womens fixtures at Sandy Park were always sell-outs.
The Womens structure will need to turn a positive shilling, which I'm sure will transpire - the international women players have been recruited, not only for their leadership prowess on the field, but also for what they can assist with off the paddock with their contributions to the community projects. (Patricia Garcia leading the Exeter Chiefs Girls Centre of Excellence programme as an example - she's a great lass). The Exeter Chiefs Womens' squad contains a lot off younger local lasses and will increasingly recruit locally. Susie and Amy have already established a very competitive first season squad which is unheard of in Womens Premiership rugby. If they finish the season in the top half of the Premiership that'd be extraordinary.
If they end up in the playoffs, which would not surprise me especially, then that is worthy of significant celebration.
All I'm aware of is massive support and encouragement for the Women from Rob Baxter and the others who form his coaching team.
Game time on the pitch is not anything to worry about.

ExTeddChief
ExTeddChief
27/12/2020 22:19
The women's team needs better media coverage. They have already proven as worthy of support as the men's team but the Sale game was the first time I'd been able to see them in action properly so let's get that sorted out.

MESSAGES->author
Isca Chief
27/12/2020 22:53
I will certainly support the womans game at the club providing i`m not shoved in the SW Comms stand. Can you get tickets for the main grandstand or is it like the mens game where you are offered a ticket depending on where your normal season ticket is?

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Tribester
27/12/2020 23:59
Also, the Digby parking has gone from £4 to £10.

Chief-cum-Lately
Chief-cum-Lately
28/12/2020 08:02
Quote:
BentFeathers
While I wish them well I worry that the additional overheads which the women’s game will bring in terms of running costs for the additional team and the additional wear and tear on the pitch will not be repaid in terms of gate receipts.

It's not only gate receipts that pay the bills. Sandy Park is a conferencing business. Remember lots of conferences are organised by women and increasingly large numbers of CEOs and Marketing Directors are female and have control of sponsorship decisions. All in all a smart business decision by Tony Rowe. How many other professional women's sports reams are there in our region?

cornwallchief
cornwallchief
28/12/2020 09:51
I am not a member of Chiefs club proper but I am assuming some of its members are women. When I get to Sandy Park there are lots of women of all ages. Women are about 50% of the population and those that play rugby I am sure enjoy it as much as the men. The women's internationals I have seen have been hugely enjoyable. The Chiefs should welcome and support a woman's team. Having said that T/R is a businessman so I expect he will want it to be a financial positive for the club but is likely to have a realistic plan and time-frame for this.

Peter Ord
OAP (Over a pint)
28/12/2020 10:35
I remember when mini rugby started 40+ years ago and it wasn’t universally accepted on day one. Many players in those days had been to rugby playing schools so why the need? Now the game is passionate about mini/junior rugby and think what it would have been like at Chiefs without LCD and Jack. Women’s rugby will be the same and unfortunately after I’m dead on gone will be a natural part of the game. I’m 72 so give it your support now in order that I live to enjoy it to the full.

Chief-cum-Lately
Chief-cum-Lately
28/12/2020 14:00
Quote:
Toomanychiefs
I will certainly support the womans game at the club providing i`m not shoved in the SW Comms stand. Can you get tickets for the main grandstand or is it like the mens game where you are offered a ticket depending on where your normal season ticket is?

I believe the tickets for the women's games are on a 'best seats, first come basis' for the sale game we were in the s w comms stand because I think we were late booking. For the games against Harlequins and Saracens we booked as soon as they became available and we have seats in block D of the West Grandstand.

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Pinhoe_Chief
29/12/2020 08:13
Happy to pay the odd £10 now and then to watch from the grandstand but not SW Comms stand (terrible view). This season, I can justify the extra cost as I will be getting money back from missed men's home games as long as covid does the roost. However, in a normal year things would be different unless the matches are included in the season ticket, which I doubt or if it does come about,the price will go up dramatically.
Can't see that there's a cheap way to follow both the men and ladies.

Exeforever
Exeforever
29/12/2020 09:47
They could offer a men's and a women's season ticket separately but I bet that they combine the two and push up the price accordingly. If they can arrange it so that the fixtures are on different days I wouldn't mind too much, but we refused to go to the first women's game and then be held hostage at SP for two hours before the men's game at SP food and drink prices.

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