Recruitment 1


black_otter

By Black_otter
May 26 2013

Black_otter takes a look at Exeter Chiefs recruitment.  Part 1 looks at season 2010-11

Recuitment

Part 1

 

I often find myself a little sceptical about the majority of Chiefs’ new signings, and then have the pleasure of seeing Rob Baxter and co get the absolute most out of these new players when they improve and perform better than they have before.  I thought I would go back over our prem lifetime just to confirm my thesis, and started by reacquainting myself with our recruitment back on page 170 of the 244 (given that we are currently on page 1).  I’ve deliberately ignored the players that have come through the academy and have not intended to focus on those that have left/are leaving, so here are some thoughts:


Signings for (and during) season 2010/11

Luke Arscott – joined from our vanquished championship final opponents, I was fairly neutral/willing to be impressed after his performances against Exe, but has turned into an absolute star for Exe.  Verdict = success
James Phillips – joined from our vanquished championship final opponents, looked a real prospect with ball in hand; has been desperately unlucky with injury, but his chance to shine may now come with Richie B’s retiral.  Verdict = suspect more to come
Andrew Higgins – joined post his calamity at Bath, I wasn’t sure how he would fit into the whole team ethos; did a job for a season when given a few, rare chances.  Verdict = quiet success
Chris Whitehead – hadn’t heard much of Chrissie, and couldn’t remember too much from our games against LW but exemplified new style mobile hooker; pushed through to become first choice, recent setback with injury aside.  Verdict = success
Ryan Davies – like Higgins joined from Bath, and I confess to not being so keen to take a player they weren’t keen on, but pushed Steeno hard for the starting 10 jersey during our first prem season.  Verdict = quiet success
John Vickers – young hooker, joined from Saints academy, presumably looking to develop him as a player; loan move to Plymouth became permanent. Verdict = neutral
Junior Poluleuligaga – Samoan international scrum-half, offering a contrasting style to our incumbent scrumhalves; struggled to break thru to regular first team appearances, but stalwart for Braves and in LV=, and has given his all to the club off the field.  Verdict = success (for off-field, mentoring role)
Ignacio Elosu – young Argentine prop, brought in to add depth, I suspect; fulfilled his role when required.  Verdict = quiet success
Jason Shoemark – joined from the Highlanders in SuperXV, and has gone on to completely fulfil his potential imo, one of the lynchpins of our backline.  Verdict = success
Eoghan Grace – young Munster academy project player, unlucky with injury and didn’t get much of a chance.  Verdict = neutral
Sireli Naqelevuki – joined from the Stormers in SuperXV, mainly as a big strong winger, but switched mainly to centre and is guaranteed to make yards over the gainline.  Verdict = success
Ignacio Mieres – brought in to add further depth to our options at halfback, and for a while went on to take the 10 shirt as his own, gaining international recognition for Argentina.  Verdict = success
Peter Kimlin – joined for a brief stint in a bid to regain fitness before returning to the Brumbies for the SuperXV season; only fleeting appearances before picking up a nasty injury, but looked a talent. Verdict = neutral
Nemani Nadolo – joined mid-way thru the season from Bourgoin, offering a massive, pacey threat out wide in perfect contrast to our existing options; off-field issues rendered his stay unfortunately short.  Verdict = disappointing (for off-field)

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Moorsman
26/05/2013 20:23
Thanks black_otter looking forward to the next instalment (Sm134)

anyone else want t pen an article for the summer P or email to me (Sm106)

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Big Bob
26/05/2013 20:46
Thanks Black Otter, without such articles the site would get taken down I know.

I am pretty much in agreement with you except for Andrew Higgens and Ignacio Elosu who both of whom made no noticeable impact IMO.

I bet that Ryan Davis wishes that he could turn back time!,perhaps in future summer breaks we should do some "Where are they now?" articles.

Thanks once again Black Otter.

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ExpatChief
ExpatChief
27/05/2013 03:01
Thanks for that, as I didn't follow the first season that closely some names I hadn't heard of.

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black_otter
27/05/2013 07:24
I should add for clarification that my 'verdict' refers to the success of the particular piece of recruitment, rather than being on the player himself. Hence Elosiu was a quiet success for me in that he came, I thought, as a player simply to add depth to TH and deliver the goods on the few occasions that he woud be called upon - he did that I felt, without adding a greAt deal more, hence 'quiet success'.

This was our first year in the prem, so we'd come to the recruitment process late, only reAlly entering the market after our championship win on a wet Bristol evening at the end of May. Nevertheless I thought Rob's initial recruitment made sense, looking to bring the squad in general up to a similar level. I wasn't too sure how the two Bath players would fair on their return to the game, but I felt that both added something as the season progressed. Likewise, I was concerned that we continued to add players as the season progressed, concerned how these guys would gel and how their fitness levels would bear up to Exe scrutiny, but again Rob picked up some real diamonds after the commencement of the season.

The following season I initially thought that we might dip some more into the market early on, as it was the fest real chance to freshen the squad up with out-of-contract players open to offers, but the squad had performed so credibly in their first season that there weren't many glaring holes, other than replacing Ryan Davies. Look out for part 2 (another summer filler) soon! thumbs down

Chiefmouth
Chiefmouth
27/05/2013 08:09
I think Elosu was about 30 ish? Apart from that, agree with everyone else doing the job they were signed for, whether it was just to add depth or to push for a starting spot.
I disagree with Andrew Higgins, I thought he was coming to prove a point and show everyone that he could re-ignite his rugby career with some first team rugby?

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Thomas Hawk
27/05/2013 09:28
Forgetting someone Black Otter... Garrick Cowley? He also joined in the summer of 2010. [news.bbc.co.uk]

ChiefBottleWasher
ChiefBottleWasher
27/05/2013 10:28
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Chiefmouth
I disagree with Andrew Higgins, I thought he was coming to prove a point and show everyone that he could re-ignite his rugby career with some first team rugby?

That may of been Higgins reasons for coming, but won't have been Robs reasons for signing him. Which will have included getting his experience , getting someone with passion due to something to prove and even a little bit of publicity due to notoriety and the hope of a bad boy comes good story(cynic in me speaking).
I would agree a quiet success in that at least it didn't blow up in Rob's face.

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Dawlish chief
27/05/2013 12:49
Pretty much a good assesment, but where is shoey?
He arrived in first season too abeit it a tad late in November and turned out to be a success of the stunning variety, is he not?

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Chief caps
27/05/2013 12:57
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Dawlish Chief
Pretty much a good assesment, but where is shoey?
He arrived in first season too abeit it a tad late in November and turned out to be a success of the stunning variety, is he not?

think you may of miss read the article DC he is listed.


Jason Shoemark – joined from the Highlanders in SuperXV, and has gone on to completely fulfil his potential imo, one of the lynchpins of our backline. Verdict = success

AH-64
AH-64
27/05/2013 13:43
Aly Muldowney signed in 2011, and has been an absolute star for us. Massive potential to become an international.

clalan
clalan
27/05/2013 14:25
Nadolo on the pitch was a success, with bags of potential and chance to grow.
Such a shame he had personal issues, causing poor life decisions.

Frenchie785
Frenchie785
27/05/2013 20:13
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Nadolo on the pitch was a success, with bags of potential and chance to grow.
Such a shame he had personal issues, causing poor life decisions.

I no naldolo was done for drink driving and the saga surrounding his transfer. Did he commit any other wrong doings?

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black_otter
27/05/2013 20:57
Tom A Hawk, well remembered, had completely forgotten about Cowley - arriving from Esher, still ND1 then, I think (?), I don't think I was expecting very much except bench cover from time-to-time, and from memory, I think that's what we got. My verdict would be Quiet success/neutral, I think.

AH-64, Muldowney will be covered in part 2 (apologies for it being drawn out)

ChiefBottleWasher
ChiefBottleWasher
28/05/2013 09:30
It would be nice to add a where are they now comment onto the end of each one.

Luke Arscott - Retained
James Phillips - Retained
Andrew Higgins - Falcons via Sale Sharks
Ignacio Eluso - Esher
Jason Shoemark - Retained
Eoghan Grace - Plymouth via Connaught
Sireli - Retained
Ignacio Meires - Worcester
Peter Kimlin - Brumbies
Nemani Nadolo- NEC Green Rockets in Japan

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AlexChief
28/05/2013 09:58
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black_otter
Tom A Hawk, well remembered, had completely forgotten about Cowley - arriving from Esher, still ND1 then, I think (?), I don't think I was expecting very much except bench cover from time-to-time, and from memory, I think that's what we got. My verdict would be Quiet success/neutral, I think.
AH-64, Muldowney will be covered in part 2 (apologies for it being drawn out)

Cowley was excellent in the A League games (esp as there were more of them in that first Prem season). I think he captained the side on several occassions and his experience shone.

chiefs-fan85
Weegie Chief
28/05/2013 12:02
Peter Kimlin has signed for Grenoble for the start of next season.

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Dawlish chief
28/05/2013 13:49
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Chief caps
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Dawlish Chief
Pretty much a good assesment, but where is shoey?
He arrived in first season too abeit it a tad late in November and turned out to be a success of the stunning variety, is he not?

think you may of miss read the article DC he is listed.


Jason Shoemark – joined from the Highlanders in SuperXV, and has gone on to completely fulfil his potential imo, one of the lynchpins of our backline. Verdict = success

I must have word blindness or something. YOu're right, need a holiday in the sun.

(Sm134)

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black_otter
29/05/2013 07:07
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ChiefBottleWasher
It would be nice to add a where are they now comment onto the end of each one.
Luke Arscott - Retained
James Phillips - Retained
Andrew Higgins - Falcons via Sale Sharks
Ignacio Eluso - Esher
Jason Shoemark - Retained
Eoghan Grace - Plymouth via Connaught
Sireli - Retained
Ignacio Meires - Worcester
Peter Kimlin - Brumbies
Nemani Nadolo- NEC Green Rockets in Japan

Great idea, CBW, perhaps Moorsman will be able to make the additions for the next one thumbs down

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