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Match 15 Discussion: Wrexham (H)
By Total Tranmere
October 7 2016
As Tranmere host Wrexham at lunchtime on Saturday, keep up to date with the action and have your say on what’s unfolding with our Match Thread.......
After defeat at home to Gateshead on Tuesday night, Rovers are back at home again on Saturday as Wrexham travel to Prenton Park. Rovers will be looking to avenge two home defeats to the Welsh side last season and also bounce back from Tuesday's loss at home to Gateshead.
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Wrexham visit Prenton Park on Saturday for a lunchtime kick-off
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Discussion started by Total Tranmere (IP Logged), 07/10/2016 13:48
07/10/2016 13:48
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Right back will be a key position tomorrow. Sean Newton their left back was by a mile the best player on the pitch last time we played them. He will need nullifying.
Been on the happy pills since yesterday. Start as we mean to go on. 5-1 Rovers.
wrexham are finding goals hard to come by this season with the loss of 2 key players from last season. they have scored less than tranmere have, I think they've only scored 11 times so far this term. I saw them well beaten at Dagenham 3-0 and watched their rather tepid 0-0 draw vs chester the other week. even though we have injuries and suspensions I really hope we can heap the pressure on gary mills tmrw. looking forward to watching it live on bt sport. just hope rovers can score a goal or two. 3 times ive seen us on bt sport so far this season and only scored once in those 3 games. cmon micky and the rovers!
I'm not hopeful. I can't remember the last really good performance we put on for live TV cameras. Sure we've won a few, but mostly the arrival of cameras coincides with some of our worst performances. It's been this way for a long time though, probably going back to the glory years if in honest.
Edit - as I finish typing I remember the Norwich game. We were bottom, they were top. We won 3-0 with early goals. I was working and missed the game live and all the goals on TV. Bloody typical.
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Edit - as I finish typing I remember the Norwich game. We were bottom, they were top. We won 3-0 with early goals. I was working and missed the game live and all the goals on TV. Bloody typical.
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Going to be a good 1-1. Rome wasn't built in a day....saying that the players know now they're playing for a proper manager.
Quote:Good tactics there Andy ! I can almost hear the team talk 👍mini_andy
1-0, with both teams trying not to lose
Previous two posts (including mini_Andy's quote)just about sum up my thoughts. Will err on the side of positivity though and go with mini_andy's 1-0.
Quote:TranmereFanQuote:Good tactics there Andy ! I can almost hear the team talk 👍mini_andy
1-0, with both teams trying not to lose
Maybe I should expand. The game will be dull with few chances as neither team want to risk losing. I think we will nick it late on though.
The team will be trying to impress the new manager and play there socks off Tranmere 2-0.
Quote:mini_andyQuote:TranmereFanQuote:Good tactics there Andy ! I can almost hear the team talk 👍mini_andy
1-0, with both teams trying not to lose
Maybe I should expand. The game will be dull with few chances as neither team want to risk losing. I think we will nick it late on though.
Haha, I see!
Players playing for their job, Micky stamping his authority, can see a few goals coming our way. Wasn't going to go, now can't wait. Big win. I don't have bt sport, is there anyway I can watch the whole game after on the tinternet? Any advise would be welcome. God I'm so excited. What a game to have the Mellon back for.
Goals, a clean sheet and the 3 points is all I ask for! I don't ask for much....
It'll be interesting to see the attendance. 7500 came to the same fixture last season
Quote:mini_andy
It'll be interesting to see the attendance. 7500 came to the same fixture last season
And no other (professional) football ANYWHERE tomorrow. Might get a few radio listening fans who would normally listen to E*****n or L*******l commentaries coming to Prenton Park before going home to watch the England match. I just want us to outnumber the visitors by a minimum of 2:1, oh, and the people in the kop to find the Tranmere songbook of old and ditch the dirge, "SuWhyArmy"!
Surely we can't play that bad 2 games on the bounce ! I'm going with martyrd - 3-0 win .
I'll take a dull 1-0 win.
Really it depends who is fit/back from suspension. But I don't think we can expect a 5-0 result or anything close.
Really it depends who is fit/back from suspension. But I don't think we can expect a 5-0 result or anything close.
As long as we play well I'd be happy , Micky won't be able to change things overnight but we have him in time to save our season , good luck to the boys I be streaming it online here in Sydney
Where are the Wrexham fans this year? Ten minutes to kick off and it looks like they are limited to half the cowshed. They must all be watching on BT Sport!
not many wrexham fans.. are the tv cameras keeping them away or is it they are fed up with things or maybe a bit of both..
its scrappy. great strike from tollitt though, give more of the ball to him in the 2nd half. we look more of a threat though.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016:10:08:13:12:32 by hong kong rover.
well done rovers,, get in. lost my stream for the last 5 mins and missed the 2nd goal.
Quote:It was better than the first one anyway! Scrappy game, bit of luck for the first goal. Wrexham rarely threatened, but a win is a win. Hopefully Mellon can get them organised in the next 2 weeks and we'll come out firing on all cylinders.hong kong rover
well done rovers,, get in. lost my stream for the last 5 mins and missed the 2nd goal.
Quote:bit of both mate. Also few of them will be following Wales this weekend.hong kong rover
not many wrexham fans.. are the tv cameras keeping them away or is it they are fed up with things or maybe a bit of both..
New manager so the performance can't really be judged imo. Good effort and good win against a very poor Wrexham side.
More police at the game than there fans. Don't know what they expected but an over kill in the end. All away crowds at PP this season seem to be very low, and for a derby game it was very poor. Seemed to show some good football at times, not a big fan of Kirby and thought he look lost up front. Onward and upward under the Mellon now. Just need to extend tollitt's loan. Think we only have him for 28 days and he looks class. Got Nors back upfront with Cooke and happy days.
2nd half better than the 1st and we deserved the win. quite impressed with tollitt, he looked decent. poor wrexham team and plain to see that they have nobody in the striker department. great start for micky. will have to wait to see the 2nd goal on you tube or club website coz my stream went off for the final 5 mins and I couldn't recover the damn thing. switched on to wirral radio after the game and simon Haworth, andy robinson and andy mangan were all interviewed and all were full of praise for micky mellon and saying what a great manager we have got ourselves. mangan was really full of praise for him.
Not sure about tollitt he has all the skills but he is extremely greedy he always shoots whem
N there are better options availible
N there are better options availible
Quote:the kav
Not sure about tollitt he has all the skills but he is extremely greedy he always shoots whem
N there are better options availible
As opposed to the endless passing we saw under Brabin.
Better then I expected, Tollitt was MOTM for me, always trying to create something.
Wrexham we're poor though.
Now Micky can work with the squad a bit and put his stamp on the side.
Wrexham we're poor though.
Now Micky can work with the squad a bit and put his stamp on the side.
I thought Tollitt had a good game , from what I've seen up to now I'd keep him . Not afraid to take men on , quick and knows where the goal is . I thought he was one of 3 to stand out today . Him , Duggan and McNulty . Duggan has really seized his chance since coming in and McNulty won every ball today and was solid at the back . McNulty just edged MOTM for me today .
Thought Tollitt was extremely promising as he has great pace. a good shot on him and is prepared to take on players. I actually thought Kirby did ok up front and he certainly worked very hard!
Quote:the kav
Not sure about tollitt he has all the skills but he is extremely greedy he always shoots whem
N there are better options availible
I can't disagree, but he's a better option than Mekki or Kirby for me. While he doesn't always do the right thing there is end product with him. Still in the promising and developing category as far as I'm concerned. No more.
Quote:the kav
Not sure about tollitt he has all the skills but he is extremely greedy he always shoots whem
N there are better options availible
Sorry can't agree, he looks at least a league above us. Had to be greedy because Kirby won't finish. Best player on the field by miles
Very surprised how poor Wrexham actually were today, defo helped us!. Pleased with the effort by all today, Sutton should of been starting from the start of the season.. Harris and Jenno good game..and Tollit and Cook very hard working! Great feeling around the ground, and good to see PC still involved
Thought Jennings done well and we missed him on Tuesday, thought Tollitt and MCnulty were also very good, great finish by Cook also. Wrexham worst side iv seen this season.
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Quote:Doogie'sGhostQuote:It was better than the first one anyway! Scrappy game, bit of luck for the first goal. Wrexham rarely threatened, but a win is a win. Hopefully Mellon can get them organised in the next 2 weeks and we'll come out firing on all cylinders.hong kong rover
well done rovers,, get in. lost my stream for the last 5 mins and missed the 2nd goal.
managed to see the 2nd goal doogie, its already on you tube. nice finish from cooky.
Deserved win good strike from tollitt 1st half would've been been a worldy if went in duggan for me looks good 1st time I've seen him lucky with the 1st goal but hey ho should've had a few more happy days work in progress on to the next game we go 👍
Tollitt man of the match for me followed by Duggan and Macnulty to much long ball again look better when moving and passing excellent goal from cook I hope Carden stays on he has done well
Quote:the kav
Not sure about tollitt he has all the skills but he is extremely greedy he always shoots whem
N there are better options availible
Good, I'm glad he shoots, it's about time someone in this side took the initiative and had a shot, we've spent to much time this season trying to create unmissable chances instead of just having a dig. I'd personally never critisice anyone for shooting.
Quote:HiggosbootsQuote:the kav
Not sure about tollitt he has all the skills but he is extremely greedy he always shoots whem
N there are better options availible
Good, I'm glad he shoots, it's about time someone in this side took the initiative and had a shot, we've spent to much time this season trying to create unmissable chances instead of just having a dig. I'd personally never critisice anyone for shooting.
+1. His first run virtually the length of the pitch was electrifying and certainly woke everyone up[those who might have been asleep].
Quote:kennyspint
Players looked like they were enjoying playing football today
The pigeon that came onto and stayed on the pitch for the last ten minutes seemed to enjoy itself too. Showed more composure than some of the players.
Sean Newton-best player on the pitch by a mile in the game last season.
Was the first player off the pitch at the end today.
Big difference-well done to our lads- but would still take him in an instant if he ever became available,
Was the first player off the pitch at the end today.
Big difference-well done to our lads- but would still take him in an instant if he ever became available,
Quote:+1Hoots Mon
Sean Newton-best player on the pitch by a mile in the game last season.
Was the first player off the pitch at the end today.
Big difference-well done to our lads- but would still take him in an instant if he ever became available,
Quote:ill second that said that to my Wrexham mate scince we played them at prenton park last year2 the moonQuote:+1Hoots Mon
Sean Newton-best player on the pitch by a mile in the game last season.
Was the first player off the pitch at the end today.
Big difference-well done to our lads- but would still take him in an instant if he ever became available,
better tempo to the game today and looked less disjointed, i'm not a big fan of Kirby but thought he did well today through the middle. Tollit looks decent and as someone said isnt scared of having a shot which has been sadly lacking for months.
Felt Mickey certainly wasnt going to let them sit back, 110% expected all the time which i'm happy to see.
On to the next game but signs look good, big hug for Carden from Mickey at the end, matybe signs that he is staying?
Felt Mickey certainly wasnt going to let them sit back, 110% expected all the time which i'm happy to see.
On to the next game but signs look good, big hug for Carden from Mickey at the end, matybe signs that he is staying?
Quote:HiggosbootsQuote:the kav
Not sure about tollitt he has all the skills but he is extremely greedy he always shoots whem
N there are better options availible
Good, I'm glad he shoots, it's about time someone in this side took the initiative and had a shot, we've spent to much time this season trying to create unmissable chances instead of just having a dig. I'd personally never critisice anyone for shooting.
Shooting from distance is good, if there isn't a better alternative and to put the defence on notice. It can become a problem if he does it all the time, it's easy to defend against if you know it's coming. You've got to be able to do both - a shot early on to let them know you can do it and a ball slid into a forward next time. It opens things up for everyone. We've been too one-dimensional and slow in our attacking, but giving him carte blanche to shoot from distance will just make us a different kind of one dimensional. The one he sailed miles over shortly before was a bad choice - he was running across the defence and had to cut across the ball. One in a million to score with that and made worse because there was an easy ball into a forward available instead.
Quote:Doogie'sGhostQuote:HiggosbootsQuote:the kav
Not sure about tollitt he has all the skills but he is extremely greedy he always shoots whem
N there are better options availible
Good, I'm glad he shoots, it's about time someone in this side took the initiative and had a shot, we've spent to much time this season trying to create unmissable chances instead of just having a dig. I'd personally never critisice anyone for shooting.
Shooting from distance is good, if there isn't a better alternative and to put the defence on notice. It can become a problem if he does it all the time, it's easy to defend against if you know it's coming. You've got to be able to do both - a shot early on to let them know you can do it and a ball slid into a forward next time. It opens things up for everyone. We've been too one-dimensional and slow in our attacking, but giving him carte blanche to shoot from distance will just make us a different kind of one dimensional. The one he sailed miles over shortly before was a bad choice - he was running across the defence and had to cut across the ball. One in a million to score with that and made worse because there was an easy ball into a forward available instead.
Your not wrong but he was fantastic, ran at people from deep, used pace and caused mayhem, as I say as long as he's actually shooting I'm not that bothered, close one for MoM between him and Duggan for me. Thought Mellon spoke to the side more than Brabin did in 90 matches during the 90 minutes.
Considering we have Jones on loan till January who is useless only having tolitt for 28 days is madness Reminds me of Dawson last season chalk player likes to take people on and carry the ball. I'd try and extend his loan. Jenno and mcnulty were rocks today Kirby tried but he was in essence replacing Norwood and we can't expect Kirby to do what Norwood does, be good to see mickys stamp over the next few weeks! SWA!
Quote:roversoffspring
Considering we have Jones on loan till January who is useless only having tolitt for 28 days is madness Reminds me of Dawson last season chalk player likes to take people on and carry the ball. I'd try and extend his loan. Jenno and mcnulty were rocks today Kirby tried but he was in essence replacing Norwood and we can't expect Kirby to do what Norwood does, be good to see mickys stamp over the next few weeks! SWA!
I thout we had Toilet duck until January, gutted
Forgot to add ,I thought the ref was very good today that's 2good refs in the last 3games I don't think we had 2 good ones at all last season ,long may it continue perhaps it was noted by the powers that be how poor the standard was last season
Can't agree Tranmerefan , I too thought the ref was really good . Let the game flow and wasn't concerned about giving himself the starring role .
Quote:Uglybob
Can't agree Tranmerefan , I too thought the ref was really good . Let the game flow and wasn't concerned about giving himself the starring role .
+1
Quote:TranmereFan
Very surprised how poor Wrexham actually were today, defo helped us!. Pleased with the effort by all today, Sutton should of been starting from the start of the season.. Harris and Jenno good game..and Tollit and Cook very hard working! Great feeling around the ground, and good to see PC still involved
Gateshead were worse.
Quote:Hoots MonQuote:TranmereFan
Very surprised how poor Wrexham actually were today, defo helped us!. Pleased with the effort by all today, Sutton should of been starting from the start of the season.. Harris and Jenno good game..and Tollit and Cook very hard working! Great feeling around the ground, and good to see PC still involved
Gateshead were worse.
Think this can be said about most teams, it's just the league we are in and the standards we will get. Sure a few clubs say the same about us
Quote:Hoots MonQuote:Uglybob
Can't agree Tranmerefan , I too thought the ref was really good . Let the game flow and wasn't concerned about giving himself the starring role .
+1
The commentators kept saying that the ref was allowing the Wrexham defenders to get away with excessive shirt pulling and grabbing players. One way of letting game flow.
He is one of the most highly thought of referees in this league and is expected to be promoted to the league list next season. I thought he had a good game! What did others think of the McNulty handball? Was it a penalty? I haven't seen it again and don't know what the TV panel thought'
Seen them given, it hits his hand 2 weeks ago it was given, this week it wasnt rub of the green.
Quote:martyd12
He is one of the most highly thought of referees in this league and is expected to be promoted to the league list next season. I thought he had a good game! What did others think of the McNulty handball? Was it a penalty? I haven't seen it again and don't know what the TV panel thought'
Sorry might upset some and might be nit-picking but booking a Tranmere player (sorry can't remember who it was) for kicking the ball just as he blew his whistle for a free kick (clearly no time to stop this action); previously a Wrexham player had kicked the ball away well after the whistle but no booking. Not booking their centre forward for an elbow to the face which even the ref gave a free kick for and clearly indicated was an elbow. Overruling the linesman when the linesman's decision was correct, not giving the penalty when Stephenson was pulled down, lots of shirt pulling missed. I think it was deceiving as he looked the part (young and athletic, not fat, balding and past it) and tried to convey an air of authority and control in what turned out an easy game to referee anyway (no where near as competitive as I expected). I guess it shows how awful the standard is if he passes as a good referee or our expectations are low. God forbid that would have been a Tranmere player making comparable errors; he'd have been crucified. In conclusion, I guess he wasn't as dire as some we have seen so easy to see how his performance may have received credit from some.
I thought the Harris booking was justified tbh. It seemed to me that the ref blew a long time before the ball was kicked, or at least in plenty of time for it not to be hoofed into touch. I was a long way from convinced about the penalty shouts as well.
Quote:Your comments fit in with what the commentators were saying during the live commentary on Tranmere Player.Phil65Quote:martyd12
He is one of the most highly thought of referees in this league and is expected to be promoted to the league list next season. I thought he had a good game! What did others think of the McNulty handball? Was it a penalty? I haven't seen it again and don't know what the TV panel thought'
Sorry might upset some and might be nit-picking but booking a Tranmere player (sorry can't remember who it was) for kicking the ball just as he blew his whistle for a free kick (clearly no time to stop this action); previously a Wrexham player had kicked the ball away well after the whistle but no booking. Not booking their centre forward for an elbow to the face which even the ref gave a free kick for and clearly indicated was an elbow. Overruling the linesman when the linesman's decision was correct, not giving the penalty when Stephenson was pulled down, lots of shirt pulling missed. I think it was deceiving as he looked the part (young and athletic, not fat, balding and past it) and tried to convey an air of authority and control in what turned out an easy game to referee anyway (no where near as competitive as I expected). I guess it shows how awful the standard is if he passes as a good referee or our expectations are low. God forbid that would have been a Tranmere player making comparable errors; he'd have been crucified. In conclusion, I guess he wasn't as dire as some we have seen so easy to see how his performance may have received credit from some.
Quote:Pattaya stew
As long as we play well I'd be happy , Micky won't be able to change things overnight but we have him in time to save our season , good luck to the boys I be streaming it online here in Sydney
When I was in Sydney[and Cairns] in September,it was wall to wall rugby league on the main sports channels
Quote:Paz
Thought the pigeon played a blinder, personally
I dunno Paz, he just stood in space and waited for the ball to be played into feet. No movement, no work rate. No creativity going forward and no effort in defence - he didn't even try to tackle or break a pass up. Tbh I found it difficult to tell if he was playing for us or them!
Quote:Doogie'sGhostQuote:Paz
Thought the pigeon played a blinder, personally
I dunno Paz, he just stood in space and waited for the ball to be played into feet. No movement, no work rate. No creativity going forward and no effort in defence - he didn't even try to tackle or break a pass up. Tbh I found it difficult to tell if he was playing for us or them!
Were you watching a different pigeon?
He shifted from the left wing right across to the right, completely lost his man. Poor vision from our lads not to pick him out.
Hope he gets another chance!
Quote:PazQuote:Doogie'sGhostQuote:Paz
Thought the pigeon played a blinder, personally
I dunno Paz, he just stood in space and waited for the ball to be played into feet. No movement, no work rate. No creativity going forward and no effort in defence - he didn't even try to tackle or break a pass up. Tbh I found it difficult to tell if he was playing for us or them!
Were you watching a different pigeon?
He shifted from the left wing right across to the right, completely lost his man. Poor vision from our lads not to pick him out.
Hope he gets another chance!
Must have missed that. I got distracted by someone in a melon hat...
The pigeon was a spy for Barrow for FA cup next week .true a little birdie told me Sorry
Personally I think it would have been a bit of a coop if we'd signed him. Nice to see something naturally coming wide; sadly he didn't fly down the wing as I would have liked to have seed him do. Also typical that he didn't receive the ball when out wide; had me perched on the edge of my seat in anticipation though. Apologies!!
Quote:Hardly Irons
I thought they were trying to put a stop to pigeonvasions.
Quote:Hardly Irons
I thought they were trying to put a stop to pigeonvasions.
Best pun of the thread, and I do a lot of punning :0)
The pigeon thought he might get a game. A flight of fancy you could say.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.
I thought he looked a bit pigeon toed and a bit roosty but not surprised just got back from France
I thought he looked a bit pigeon toed and a bit roosty but not surprised just got back from France
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