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The last game was their first win in 23 so this is a real opportunity not just for 3 points but also to boost the goal difference with a three or four goal victory

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The last game was their first win in 23 so this is a real opportunity not just for 3 points but also to boost the goal difference with a three or four goal victory

so 1-0 it is then

Hopefully the management team get the players in the right frame of mind on what is going to be a very emotional day.

Hoping for a good 2 or 3-0 win

I have a feeling we could get 5 or 6!

1-0 would do me. It's all about three points!

They need to sit down and watch a few bits of footage from the Exeter game, and then some of the good moments from the Kingy era. After this, they need to be told that this is what they can achieve!

If this doesn't fire them up, then I don't know what will.

We're looking to get in the playoffs, and they're second from bottom. If we don't win then we don't deserve to be in the playoff fight.

I hope we utterly destroy them tomorrow
for Jk, and for us
I want to see fire from start to end

i hope the boys realy do em. we are gonna batter someone soon . we been playin some good stuff gettin loads of chances someone will pay soon

Have to be careful with this one as emotions will be running high and Welling may well sit deep and hope to catch us the break. Lets hope we can get an early goal and win the game with style in tribute to JK.

just heard the minutes applause on wirral radio.. sounded fantastic and the commentator and dave Higgins a little emotional. me2 with a little tear in my eye.

Not good enough in my books we don't deserve to go up after today

Sorry for any spelling mistakes, but on my way out. Not good enough, today of all days. Who the f@@k are welling. A team of 10 year ols who want it. Sorry, but GB out now for me.

Tough way for the season to likely end, today of all days

Awful. Why do we always hoof it to Norwood, hit an hope. Loads of chances in first half. We are crap, can't hit a barn door and the fella next to me said margetts and Stockton both scored.

This has to be one of the most frustrating results of all time.

How come we allowed them to have so many efforts on goal?

Well the apologist will no doubt try to rationalise this result.But there can be no ignoring that this is an eighth home defeat and that it was against nailed on certainties for relegation. To add salt to the wound Margetts and Stockton score.Margetts total for the season is more than GTF and Higdon together have managed.
On a day when others have slipped up it is a massive disappointment.
Is it any wonder that there are those of us who cannot see any reason to think that the progress off the pitch is matched by progress on the pitch.Here we are at the end of the season and we cannot retain a lead against the second worst team in the division.This is not a one game reactions he but is grounded in the failure of the management to remotely improve the striker issue over the season or to improve our home performances over those of the last two years.

Bottlers !

Didnt play well today, but least the boo boys got to boo again they must have been getting frustrated.
Norwood should have been subbed kept taylor fletcher on.
Their keeper kept them in the game in first half and we should have been least 2 up before they scored.

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Didnt play well today, but least the boo boys got to boo again they must have been getting frustrated.
Norwood should have been subbed kept taylor fletcher on.
Their keeper kept them in the game in first half and we should have been least 2 up before they scored.

totally agree with you on Norwood

8 home defeats is simply not good enough! Plus the teams we've lost to boreham wood Braintree barrow welling amongst others we have no plan B against the part timers. Top 3 budget and 5,000 will that be the case next season in the national league as I feel today we've blown it. Margetts Mangan and Stockton scoring elsewhere yet couldn't get into our side but higdon does he could even get it on target from about 4 yards! Then Norwood is shoved out wide to Accomdate the out of shape unfit lump! On kingys big day these players should be ashamed that 2nd half was epically poor and I was at York away under Adams!! Can't see it happening now this season but have we ever really been consistent or looked nailed on play off/ promotion contenders?

Dress it up all you want but we are abysmal what a poor excuse for a hopeful promotion side and don't come up with the excuse like they could have been emotional after the death of JK none of the players ever knew or met him so not having that one ,they and Brabin are a disgrace they let the club down and the memory of jk down if it had been top 2teams that had beaten us fair enough but welling disgraceful

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Didnt play well today, but least the boo boys got to boo again they must have been getting frustrated.
Norwood should have been subbed kept taylor fletcher on.
Their keeper kept them in the game in first half and we should have been least 2 up before they scored.

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The boo boys are irrelevant,many 100% supporters do not see the progress on the field that is claimed by others.Todays result and home form in general add strength to those concerns.When we beat Bromley I thought that we had come to terms with this league.Since then we have lost more home games than we have won and every management decision aimed at sorting the striker situation has taken us backwards rather than forwards.This alarms me in terms of progressing next year

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Didnt play well today, but least the boo boys got to boo again they must have been getting frustrated.
Norwood should have been subbed kept taylor fletcher on.
Their keeper kept them in the game in first half and we should have been least 2 up before they scored.

Are you for real. Support was fantastic again. They say player need the fans to sing, fans need something from the player to sing for. Few pints down in the sports now, so starting to feel a bit better.

No matter what league we are in next season, we are starting again from scratch. So if we do somehow make it up, it's sill back square one.

Another pint I think

A poor game which neither side deserved to win although in the first half I thought we were really good and some of our football was fantastic to watch.

As is always the case should have been out of sight by half-time and they get a goal which had about three deflections in the box before being deflected home.

For me, until Taylor-Fletcher went off we were easily the better side and were always favourites to win but for the second home game in a row his departure from the pitch saw us fall to pieces.

Nevertheless we are still in the play-offs with two away games to come which we should be hopeful of winning and just need to make sure we beat at least one of Wrexham or Grimsby.

Today was disappointing but isn't a disaster!

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Dress it up all you want but we are abysmal what a poor excuse for a hopeful promotion side and don't come up with the excuse like they could have been emotional after the death of JK none of the players ever knew or met him so not having that one ,they and Brabin are a disgrace they let the club down and the memory of jk down if it had been top 2teams that had beaten us fair enough but welling disgraceful

agreed but I bet there will be one person who will put so much spin on it if he's not a politician he should because he'd make a good one yes they got lucky with the first goal the midfield just let them run with the ball to often for my liking I think we have blown the little chance we had of going up I'll still be there next season need to get some pace in the side we had lots of space to run into in the first half but didn't exploit it thought jack done well when he come not many pluses in the second half yes the header was on target but I could ran down from were I was sitting and cleared that and I'm in a cast

if all the teams around us had won we would be in a bit of bother but they didnt thankfully. not over yet. bad day for us for sure but we are still in the mix.

However much you hate Brabin, I'm not sure too much fault for today can really be laid at his door. The team selection was right and i thought the subs were too. Not a single player played well. We gave the ball away, didn't tackle, didn't challenge and generally looked off the pace completely after the first 20 minutes. It was an awful performance and I can't think of one player who was an exception. They weren't up to the occasion.

Welling are/were very poor. But they remained organised and fully committed. Really those two things are about all they brought to the party. Contrast their efforts in clearing two balls off the line with the keeper beaten to the efforts of our keeper who didn't actually make an effort withe either of their goals. And Davies was far from the worst player we had on display today. Not good enough, all round. This, together with Braintree, were basically no-shows by us, but Braintree at least are a reasonable side.

Thought we played as well as I've seen for ages 1st half (admittedly I'm no longer a regular) Totally baffled by the GTF substitution we had no brains when he reluctantly went off, want to hear Brabin' s thought process on this one???

Just one of those days today, wouldn't say we didn't want to win it, Brabin tried to change it. Was a poor game though and the atmosphere today felt really non league, but I guess the mood was somber for obvious reasons. The booing at the end was a little ridiculous. Luckily some other results were favourable.

And why did Hughes and Kirby switch wings in the first half? Kirby and Vaughan were linking really well.

Yes as kingy said Tranmere are a deadly submarine ,but this crew are always scuttling themselves

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Thought we played as well as I've seen for ages 1st half (admittedly I'm no longer a regular) Totally baffled by the GTF substitution we had no brains when he reluctantly went off, want to hear Brabin' s thought process on this one???

I totally agree with this. As defensive of Brabin as I've been the taking off of GTF today just didn't make sense really.

Also agree about the way we started the game - some great stuff to watch!

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Didnt play well today, but least the boo boys got to boo again they must have been getting frustrated.
Norwood should have been subbed kept taylor fletcher on.
Their keeper kept them in the game in first half and we should have been least 2 up before they scored.

Are you for real. Support was fantastic again. They say player need the fans to sing, fans need something from the player to sing for. Few pints down in the sports now, so starting to feel a bit better.

No matter what league we are in next season, we are starting again from scratch. So if we do somehow make it up, it's sill back square one.

Another pint I think

I departed with 1 min to go, just been told there were a few boos at full time. Is that it. Can't believe you can even consider saying it. They came in a taxi, says it all to me. If Dover go up, what's the attendance on a Tuesday night v Hartlepool going to be? 600 at a league game. Get a grip Ming, and smell the coffee and don't blame the fans. O u didn't blame them, but for me you are insulting them.

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And why did Hughes and Kirby switch wings in the first half? Kirby and Vaughan were linking really well.

I'd forgotten this, good point and definitely something to pin on the manager. That was very odd. Hughes is so one-footed that he has to play centrally or on the left. This did derail us after their first goal.

As for GTF, while I agree generally about his play, once Hughes went off we lost the natural link between midfield and him. The introduction of Mackreth, who was OK actually, meant that he was never going to keep up with play and we went more direct. It wasn't so much that he was poor, more that the midfield weren't getting the ball to him because they were useless and he was being bypassed. I did think it was probably the right move.

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Didnt play well today, but least the boo boys got to boo again they must have been getting frustrated.
Norwood should have been subbed kept taylor fletcher on.
Their keeper kept them in the game in first half and we should have been least 2 up before they scored.

Are you for real. Support was fantastic again. They say player need the fans to sing, fans need something from the player to sing for. Few pints down in the sports now, so starting to feel a bit better.

No matter what league we are in next season, we are starting again from scratch. So if we do somehow make it up, it's sill back square one.

Another pint I think

I departed with 1 min to go, just been told there were a few boos at full time. Is that it. Can't believe you can even consider saying it. They came in a taxi, says it all to me. If Dover go up, what's the attendance on a Tuesday night v Hartlepool going to be? 600 at a league game. Get a grip Ming, and smell the coffee and don't blame the fans. O u didn't blame them, but for me you are insulting them.

I certainly didn't think the support was fantastic, it wasn't particularly good or bad outside of anything to do with Kingy. I have no issue with the boos at full time. It wasn't good enough and they were deserved. There were more than a few boos though!

Sorry Deadly today was a disaster, we lost against Welling second from bottom! They deserved to win because they wanted it more. It was Brabin who took GTF off so it was his fault.As other people have said both Margetts and Stockton scored today, but never mind we do have Higdon in place of them. Why we are paying him a a wage is beyond me.

What CAN NOT be excused this year is the points we have dropped this season to NO HOPERS. I dont know what the problem is, is it the manager is it the players, possibly match prep attitude wise but ultimately the players kick the ball. Cant happen next year would love to se Jimmy Harvey in the dugout.

First 18 mins we played well. Then it fell apart from there. Why was we hitting long ball after ball in the second half for them to clean up. We was terrible today. From the keeper right to the forwards. It was a pathetic performance from a playoff chasing team. The fans have every right to boo it was pathetic.

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Didnt play well today, but least the boo boys got to boo again they must have been getting frustrated.
Norwood should have been subbed kept taylor fletcher on.
Their keeper kept them in the game in first half and we should have been least 2 up before they scored.

Are you for real. Support was fantastic again. They say player need the fans to sing, fans need something from the player to sing for. Few pints down in the sports now, so starting to feel a bit better.

No matter what league we are in next season, we are starting again from scratch. So if we do somehow make it up, it's sill back square one.

Another pint I think

I departed with 1 min to go, just been told there were a few boos at full time. Is that it. Can't believe you can even consider saying it. They came in a taxi, says it all to me. If Dover go up, what's the attendance on a Tuesday night v Hartlepool going to be? 600 at a league game. Get a grip Ming, and smell the coffee and don't blame the fans. O u didn't blame them, but for me you are insulting them.

I certainly didn't think the support was fantastic, it wasn't particularly good or bad outside of anything to do with Kingy. I have no issue with the boos at full time. It wasn't good enough and they were deserved. There were more than a few boos though!

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First 18 mins we played well. Then it fell apart from there. Why was we hitting long ball after ball in the second half for them to clean up. We was terrible today. From the keeper right to the forwards. It was a pathetic performance from a playoff chasing team. The fans have every right to boo it was pathetic.

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Sorry deadly but the just one of those days doesn't wash. it was just one of those all too many days when our home performance has been inadequate,It was also one of those many days that affirm that the manager has made no progress in terms of resolving our strike power.His decisions both in terms of who has come in and who has gone out have not given any reason to think that he will get this right.They are his decisions and so he is responsible

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Didnt play well today, but least the boo boys got to boo again they must have been getting frustrated.
Norwood should have been subbed kept taylor fletcher on.
Their keeper kept them in the game in first half and we should have been least 2 up before they scored.

Are you for real. Support was fantastic again. They say player need the fans to sing, fans need something from the player to sing for. Few pints down in the sports now, so starting to feel a bit better.

No matter what league we are in next season, we are starting again from scratch. So if we do somehow make it up, it's sill back square one.

Another pint I think

I departed with 1 min to go, just been told there were a few boos at full time. Is that it. Can't believe you can even consider saying it. They came in a taxi, says it all to me. If Dover go up, what's the attendance on a Tuesday night v Hartlepool going to be? 600 at a league game. Get a grip Ming, and smell the coffee and don't blame the fans. O u didn't blame them, but for me you are insulting them.

I certainly didn't think the support was fantastic, it wasn't particularly good or bad outside of anything to do with Kingy. I have no issue with the boos at full time. It wasn't good enough and they were deserved. There were more than a few boos though!

F ing over 5k what the f do you expect in non league ghost. Any team in this god for shaken league would give anything for our support. If they had our support, they wouldn't ne in this shite league. Fantastic support. If you don't want any true vocal support, then go and watch dover

Well done Welling on a thoroughly deserved win. Their second goal was excellent. A passing move that shredded our defence, before walking it in. So easy they then started show boating.
Our only answer Fenwick and Higdon. Enough said.

Sorry ghost, just read back. Bit harsh, still drowning my sorrows

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Well done Welling on a thoroughly deserved win. Their second goal was excellent. A passing move that shredded our defence, before walking it in. So easy they then started show boating.
Our only answer Fenwick and Higdon. Enough said.

Can't fault that. An they did walk it in. Onwards and up wards or something like that

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Sorry deadly but the just one of those days doesn't wash. it was just one of those all too many days when our home performance has been inadequate,It was also one of those many days that affirm that the manager has made no progress in terms of resolving our strike power.His decisions both in terms of who has come in and who has gone out have not given any reason to think that he will get this right.They are his decisions and so he is responsible

At what point did I it was just one of those days?

Think it was me who said that, and I stand by it. We started well scored a cracking goal then conceded a poor one. Then tried to change things to get the winner but as football has a habit of biting you back . We had some great form recently, can't just forget that after one loss. We are still in with a chance.

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Sorry deadly but the just one of those days doesn't wash. it was just one of those all too many days when our home performance has been inadequate,It was also one of those many days that affirm that the manager has made no progress in terms of resolving our strike power.His decisions both in terms of who has come in and who has gone out have not given any reason to think that he will get this right.They are his decisions and so he is responsible

At what point did I it was just one of those days?

Far dos sub, think you we're almost right, can't bring myself to agree 100% even you are

Nice one

That Fenwick my nan could have done better and she is 91. The only player with a small amount of credit was GTF. He was fuming when he come off. And I can see why the subs was appalling. Mat Hill my god after spouting about we know what to do how about learn to pass. Norwood Long ball every time is getting old. miss hit, rubbish cross, terrible defending, no energy, no off the ball movement, terrible bench, very few shots and straight at the keeper that's why we lost not the fans.......

Every ball is a white ball............TRFC

Wrexham drew with Forest Green, finished the game with nine players on the pitch. The Wrexham game at home will be our toughest game I think and could decide who gets in the play offs.

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That Fenwick my nan could have done better and she is 91. The only player with a small amount of credit was GTF. He was fuming when he come off. And I can see why the subs was appalling. Mat Hill my god after spouting about we know what to do how about learn to pass. Norwood Long ball every time is getting old. miss hit, rubbish cross, terrible defending, no energy, no off the ball movement, terrible bench, very few shots and straight at the keeper that's why we lost not the fans.......

Good fo see a true post and no should have, raf was poor, wind was too strong and we bossed the first 20

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A poor game which neither side deserved to win although in the first half I thought we were really good and some of our football was fantastic to watch.
As is always the case should have been out of sight by half-time and they get a goal which had about three deflections in the box before being deflected home.

For me, until Taylor-Fletcher went off we were easily the better side and were always favourites to win but for the second home game in a row his departure from the pitch saw us fall to pieces.

Nevertheless we are still in the play-offs with two away games to come which we should be hopeful of winning and just need to make sure we beat at least one of Wrexham or Grimsby.

Today was disappointing but isn't a disaster!

It was a totally abject shameful performance on today of all days. The players should all be totally disgusted with themselves for grossly insulting the memory of our greatest manager with such an abysmal passionless display.Horrendous beyond belief in the second half,exemplified by the way they allowed Welling to walk the ball in for their second goal as if it was a practice match.



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That Fenwick my nan could have done better and she is 91. The only player with a small amount of credit was GTF. He was fuming when he come off. And I can see why the subs was appalling. Mat Hill my god after spouting about we know what to do how about learn to pass. Norwood Long ball every time is getting old. miss hit, rubbish cross, terrible defending, no energy, no off the ball movement, terrible bench, very few shots and straight at the keeper that's why we lost not the fans.......

Good fo see a true post and no should have, raf was poor, wind was too strong and we bossed the first 20

No one mentioned the wind or the Ref? We did boss the game for more than the first 20 minutes regardless of what happened afterwards.

Bossing the game for 20 mins(less than 1/3) means nothing it means nothing apart from we didnt boss it for 70 mins, bossing it for 90 means nothing if you don't win,

All Kingys teams played football with flair. Today/this season has been the antithesis of that. Brabin is anti flair.

We started well and eventually got our goal. Then just when i was thinking this is the one we could kick on in and run up a decent score they got a fortunate equaliser and in my opinion it just went down hill from there. Second half for me was appalling, They grew in confidence and the little bit of pace they had up top was starting to expose us big time. Tactically we looked all over the show and the final nail in the coffin was watching a clearly out of shape and overweight substitution run round in a sort of front four that was frankly bordering on embarassing to watch. Fortunately a couple of results went our way and we are still in with a shout.

First 20 mins we dominated , thought it was gonna be a stroll in the park . Although their 1st took a deflection he shouldn't have been allowed to get the shot in in the first place , defence was all over the place . Their second was far far too easy . Did anyone else pick up on the fact that there were THREE welling players in the middle of the park with absolutely NO-ONE near them prior to the goal ? No-ONE went anywhere near them , they had as much time as they wanted to pick out the pass for the goal . Also , a huge bugbear of mine is the continuous long balls to Norwood . How long are we gonna keep persisting with this ? Did you see the size of their 2 centre backs ? They lap them up all afternoon . Overall , poor performance and don't know where the goals are gonna come from .

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Think it was me who said that, and I stand by it. We started well scored a cracking goal then conceded a poor one. Then tried to change things to get the winner but as football has a habit of biting you back . We had some great form recently, can't just forget that after one loss. We are still in with a chance.

I don't think we really changed much until we were losing, gtf should never have been subbed, Kirby should have been the one to make way, Hughes was a loss as he has some composure. 20 attempts on goal Abd 1 scored is not good enough. We didn't look like we wanted it today, yes the cleared a couple last ditch but yet again right in middle of the goal.
1st 20 mins we looked decent but didn't score the 2-3 goals from 6 very good chances so didn't kill team off.

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Dress it up all you want but we are abysmal what a poor excuse for a hopeful promotion side and don't come up with the excuse like they could have been emotional after the death of JK none of the players ever knew or met him so not having that one ,they and Brabin are a disgrace they let the club down and the memory of jk down if it had been top 2teams that had beaten us fair enough but welling disgraceful

It was a shoot yourself in the foot performance for sure, but how do you know none of the players never met or knew King?

As for Brabin, he put a team out capable of creating more shots against the the other team, so I don't think it's his fault, it's the players who could not finish what they started.

Still in the mix, but a win would have put more pressure on other teams, so whilst I'm not happy with this result, I still think the playoffs is possible.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

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Dress it up all you want but we are abysmal what a poor excuse for a hopeful promotion side and don't come up with the excuse like they could have been emotional after the death of JK none of the players ever knew or met him so not having that one ,they and Brabin are a disgrace they let the club down and the memory of jk down if it had been top 2teams that had beaten us fair enough but welling disgraceful

It was a shoot yourself in the foot performance for sure, but how do you know none of the players never met or knew King?

I would think that it's fairly certain that the vast majority[with maybe the odd exception]never met nor knew him.



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Where was Sahr Kabba today anyway for them? Very notable by his absence from the squad completely!

Was he injured or did he just not have the bottle to play at Prenton Park after his cheating antics at their place back in September?

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That Fenwick my nan could have done better and she is 91. The only player with a small amount of credit was GTF. He was fuming when he come off. And I can see why the subs was appalling. Mat Hill my god after spouting about we know what to do how about learn to pass. Norwood Long ball every time is getting old. miss hit, rubbish cross, terrible defending, no energy, no off the ball movement, terrible bench, very few shots and straight at
the keeper that's why we lost not the fans.......

Good fo see a true post and no should have, raf was poor, wind was too strong and we bossed the first 20

No one mentioned the wind or the Ref? We did boss the game for more than the first 20 minutes regardless of what happened afterwards.

Am I missing something? No we didn't boss it for more than 20 or we would have won. End of.

Just to reiterate, I said good post because they did not make any excuses, like the ref or the wind!

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Where was Sahr Kabba today anyway for them? Very notable by his absence from the squad completely!Was he injured or did he just not have the bottle to play at Prenton Park after his cheating antics at their place back in September?

They didn't need him -the lad up front,Daniel[30] did a decent job and scored the practice match winner.

That felt like a complete punch in the stomach today and the second half was woeful. But the worst thing for me is how it exposed a few weaknesses in our play.

We don't dominate at home and press the opposition back so they always have a chance to get back in. This is because the midfield are too deep and both Welling goals were a result of that.

It's also clear that either (or both) the issue of what is the best partnership up front or playing it long all the time is not helping either.

So I don't feel demoralised because of the damage caused to our play off bid (we are still very much in it after all), it's more the concern that the future isn't promising with this style of play.

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Where was Sahr Kabba today anyway for them? Very notable by his absence from the squad completely!Was he injured or did he just not have the bottle to play at Prenton Park after his cheating antics at their place back in September?

They didn't need him -the lad up front,Daniel[30] did a decent job and scored the practice match winner.

It doesn't answer my question?

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Where was Sahr Kabba today anyway for them? Very notable by his absence from the squad completely!Was he injured or did he just not have the bottle to play at Prenton Park after his cheating antics at their place back in September?

They didn't need him -the lad up front,Daniel[30] did a decent job and scored the practice match winner.

It doesn't answer my question?

My guess is that they came up by train so only paid for those who would actively contribute.

Or possibly,they thought that any reception that Kabba might have got would have been counter productive to their match plan. They deserve some kudos for leaving some flowers by the John King statue in his memory.

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My guess is that they came up by train so only paid for those who would actively contribute.
Or possibly,they thought that any reception that Kabba might have got would have been counter productive to their match plan. They deserve some kudos for leaving some flowers by the John King statue in his memory.

Both good solutions as to where he may have been! Cheers

I still feel he just didn't fancy but that's me being sceptical!

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My guess is that they came up by train so only paid for those who would actively contribute.
Or possibly,they thought that any reception that Kabba might have got would have been counter productive to their match plan. They deserve some kudos for leaving some flowers by the John King statue in his memory.

Both good solutions as to where he may have been! Cheers

I still feel he just didn't fancy but that's me being sceptical!

You may be right. But if you were in his position,would you have fancied it?

It is an interesting argument that as long as we create chances then it is not the managers fault that we fail to score.This is plausible if it is just a one off game but when it reflects a pattern over the season and it is combined with numerous failures to win at home then the argument is flawed
It is the manager that decided on three occasions that unfit strikers deserved to take precedence over those already on the books.I am not suggesting that Margetts or Stockton are ideal but the other options have been no better.We will never know all the details of the Manganese situation but the way he was treated by Brabin would hardly have strengthened a desire to stay.If the failure to bring in effective strikers is not the. rEponsibility of the manager,then I would love to know who we expect to solve the problem.
I had hoped it would be a season of progress after a period of adjustment. Since the the Bromley game we have lost more home games than won.Does the manager bear some responsibility for that?

Trying to be diplomatic after finally calming down. If we don't have the composure and guile to close out a game after going one up against Welling then I do fear for us if we do make the play offs. The importance of the occasion in terms of Johnny King's passing and our play off ambitions just seemed lost on the players. Should have been a professional performance after a good start and excellent goal to put us ahead but just descended into an amateurish effort from almost everyone. Not good enough and substitutions just made it worse. Lacking in anticipation, reaction, cohesion, concentration, committment and quality. Hard to take any positives after a depressing day.

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My guess is that they came up by train so only paid for those who would actively contribute.
Or possibly,they thought that any reception that Kabba might have got would have been counter productive to their match plan. They deserve some kudos for leaving some flowers by the John King statue in his memory.

Both good solutions as to where he may have been! Cheers

I still feel he just didn't fancy but that's me being sceptical!

You may be right. But if you were in his position,would you have fancied it?

If he's being paid as a professional footballer then he shouldn't have the choice.

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My guess is that they came up by train so only paid for those who would actively contribute.
Or possibly,they thought that any reception that Kabba might have got would have been counter productive to their match plan. They deserve some kudos for leaving some flowers by the John King statue in his memory.

Both good solutions as to where he may have been! Cheers

I still feel he just didn't fancy but that's me being sceptical!

You may be right. But if you were in his position,would you have fancied it?

If he's being paid as a professional footballer then he shouldn't have the choice.

Maybe the decision was made by somebody else and he didn't have the choice.

We're hoping to get promoted out of the league, they are likely to be relegated out of the league.

It doesn't matter how you play, it doesn't matter how many shots you have, it's doesn't matter if you dominate a match. What matters is the score at the end of the game.

The fact that we have lost about 1/3 of our home games this season, shows issues deeper then being unlucky. We don't have a squad capable of:

Breaking down teams

Or

Grinding out results

How many time have we conceded less then 5 mins after scoring this season?

Season tickets sales will plummet if we are still in this league next season.

Simply not good enough

The most upsetting thing about rovers this season has been the losses to part time sides these sides want it more than rovers ,prepared to fight for the club ,Brabin is being out thought by guys who have to work for a living as well as play football as I have said all season they were garbage against Woking and Halifax the first 2home games and apart from half a dozen decent performances not improved ,clear the lot out and start again Jim Harvey for me ,and how do I know these clowns knew nothing about JK they were only very young at the time and most not local .as I say absolute disgrace

Hit the nail on the head mini-Andy . Breaking down teams . We're lost . It's either ( as I've said on previous posts ) the long ball to Norwood which 99% of the time the centre backs lap them up , or , playing down the wing . When we do this ( doesn't matter if it's Mekki / Kirby or whoever ) 2 things happen . Either nobody runs with the play resulting in the winger stopping in the final third because there is zero option to do anything which allows the defence to get back to shape , or , if anyone has gone with the play , the final ball is usually awful . If we're gonna break then break with speed and numbers , give options . At the moment we are ( sadly ) very predictable .

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A poor game which neither side deserved to win although in the first half I thought we were really good and some of our football was fantastic to watch.
As is always the case should have been out of sight by half-time and they get a goal which had about three deflections in the box before being deflected home.

For me, until Taylor-Fletcher went off we were easily the better side and were always favourites to win but for the second home game in a row his departure from the pitch saw us fall to pieces.

Nevertheless we are still in the play-offs with two away games to come which we should be hopeful of winning and just need to make sure we beat at least one of Wrexham or Grimsby.

Today was disappointing but isn't a disaster!

It was a totally abject shameful performance on today of all days. The players should all be totally disgusted with themselves for grossly insulting the memory of our greatest manager with such an abysmal passionless display.Horrendous beyond belief in the second half,exemplified by the way they allowed Welling to walk the ball in for their second goal as if it was a practice match.

that sure is damning hoots. doesnt make for good reading when we play like that and as u say on such an occasion with the jk tributes..

Actually thought the ref wasn't too bad compared to some of the jokers we've been getting.

The Welling players got the train up, and then taxis from Lime Street. The kit was brought up, and back, on the supporter's minibus! Don't you just love it!

''GTF was taken off as he was dropping too deep and the wide men were tucking in too much so lots of football in the middle of the pitch so we changed it and we got good opportunities after again today
Certainly should have had one penalty for handball in the box''



Is he seriously suggesting that we improved after GTF was taken off? He just talks bilge and grasps at ever smaller straws.

Norwood should have come off and two genuine wingers should have been used.

We didn't use the width well at all yesterday.

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Certainly should have had one penalty for handball in the box''



Is he seriously suggesting that we improved after GTF was taken off? He just talks bilge and grasps at ever smaller straws.

There's nothing in that statement that said we improved. We did create quite a few chances once we had the three forwards on - more than we had in the preceding 10/15 minutes for sure. We should have had a penalty, we hit the post, another grazed the bar, Higdon put one just wide, Jennings back-passed to the keeper, that's off the top of my head. Getting more good opportunities doesn't mean better in a pure football sense necessarily, it can just mean we created more chances and I think we did, quite comfortably. And I would agree that GTF was too deep. Norwood was far too isolated.

Disappointing day, thought were in for a goal fest, Harris and Vaughan linked up well in the first half. Not a lot from either flank and Hughes looked like a fish out of water out on the wing.GTF was very effective and I was still convinced we were on for a hat full until they scored the deflected goal. The changes should have been Hughes inside and Jennings off, thought Macreth was very lively when he came on adding much needed pace, one cross pulled back to Norwood, who unfortunately got the ball stuck under his feet, at that point both wings were getting plenty of the ball with corner after corner the result, mainly down the right, then Brabin cut off the supply line by taking off GTF, the game plan collapsed and we reverted to long balls, the feed to the flanks stopped and the wingers were passed by. The striker from Hartlepool, seen him twice now he is no better than what we had,then we brought on Higdon and it was game over, what a waste of a wage!
Got to start next week with Hughes for Jennings, GTF playing behind Nors, with Jake and Jack down the wings,

It just not on. These non league types coming to PP with a plan and a squad of fit athletic part time footballers. Our fat old pensioner full time over paid journeymen don't stand a chance. And the referee didn't help either - no sendings off or penalties.

Like it or not we are a "non league type" as well as the moment and we have to accept that the teams we are playing are going to be of non league standard until we get out of here.

No wonder welling won ,came up on the train bought breakfast I bet And then the spoilt brats got a taxi instead of the bus 😄 To me it says it all about a great attitude and willing to fight for their club not LIke the useless bunch we call our team.well done to Welling

Sometimes, I think that National League teams (even the lower ones) are grossly under-estimated. The FA Cup is littered with Conference teams beating league teams. I don't think there is much difference in standard between Lge 2 and the National League. However there is more apparent cheating and play-acting in the National League.

Been reading the site for ages now, but with some of the comments posted, though largely understandable,so critical, was always a bit reticent about posting. But what the hell, the season is nearly over so why not?

Yes we probably could have won yesterday, but like so many games this season, more so the ones at home we didn't. and whilst yes okay we lost to a side that a couple of weeks ago hadn't won since October is it so hard to concede that they probably deserved it, and whilst the thought of being forced to getting used to such reverses is a really scary one, is it any scarier than the realisation we must all have now, of just how hard it is going to be to to get out of this 'tin pot' league full stop, which I guarantee is going to be a lot harder than any of us thought it would be when we kicked off in August. I don't know about you guys, but the fact the Grimsby are still here some 6,7 years later scares the life out of me.

It might not be a great league quality wise, but @#$%&, it's certainly competitive, and in truth, even though if results went with us, we may yet sneak into the play off's, we simply aren't and haven't consistently been anywhere near competitive enough, either collectively or individually to sustain even any real play off challenge, and with the realisation now fully sunk in to us all that in all likelihood we will unfortunately still be trekking down to Bromley and Braintree next year, we really need to start planning for the new season now.

I further believe even though he's had my support since day one, not least just because he's our manager, that inevitably it will mean bringing someone new to both make the required cull, and more importantly to oversea what must surely be some bloody major surgery

It is clear, first four games apart,that we need players with more commitment, more guile, more hunger, and certainly more pace, from back to front

The board have to wake up to the fact, and am sure they will, that contrary to what some think, we don't have a divine right to beat everyone, if only it was that simple, we don't even have the right to beat the teams at the bottom or so called smaller teams, and it's madness in such a competitive league to think we do.

That said it is so annoying when realising that all the teams in the relegation zone have taken points of us and if we are going to get out of this league those types of reversals do have to be eradicated.

If the likes of Dover and Braintree, both of whom play very direct football, can manage, on merit to get themselves into the play off's and do so with crowds much less than a quarter of ours and presumably have wage bills to reflect that difference, then what could, perhaps what should we be doing with the right players and the right leadership, neither of which unfortunately we have had this season which is why we are where we are and why huge changes are surely inevitable.Twenty points off the leaders says it all.

Apologies for length of post, and I promise to shorten all subsequent ramblings significantly.

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Been reading the site for ages now, but with some of the comments posted, though largely understandable,so critical, was always a bit reticent about posting. But what the hell, the season is nearly over so why not?
Yes we probably could have won yesterday, but like so many games this season, more so the ones at home we didn't. and whilst yes okay we lost to a side that a couple of weeks ago hadn't won since October is it so hard to concede that they probably deserved it, and whilst the thought of being forced to getting used to such reverses is a really scary one, is it any scarier than the realisation we must all have now, of just how hard it is going to be to to get out of this 'tin pot' league full stop, which I guarantee is going to be a lot harder than any of us thought it would be when we kicked off in August. I don't know about you guys, but the fact the Grimsby are still here some 6,7 years later scares the life out of me.

It might not be a great league quality wise, but @#$%&, it's certainly competitive, and in truth, even though if results went with us, we may yet sneak into the play off's, we simply aren't and haven't consistently been anywhere near competitive enough, either collectively or individually to sustain even any real play off challenge, and with the realisation now fully sunk in to us all that in all likelihood we will unfortunately still be trekking down to Bromley and Braintree next year, we really need to start planning for the new season now.

I further believe even though he's had my support since day one, not least just because he's our manager, that inevitably it will mean bringing someone new to both make the required cull, and more importantly to oversea what must surely be some bloody major surgery

It is clear, first four games apart,that we need players with more commitment, more guile, more hunger, and certainly more pace, from back to front

The board have to wake up to the fact, and am sure they will, that contrary to what some think, we don't have a divine right to beat everyone, if only it was that simple, we don't even have the right to beat the teams at the bottom or so called smaller teams, and it's madness in such a competitive league to think we do.

That said it is so annoying when realising that all the teams in the relegation zone have taken points of us and if we are going to get out of this league those types of reversals do have to be eradicated.

If the likes of Dover and Braintree, both of whom play very direct football, can manage, on merit to get themselves into the play off's and do so with crowds much less than a quarter of ours and presumably have wage bills to reflect that difference, then what could, perhaps what should we be doing with the right players and the right leadership, neither of which unfortunately we have had this season which is why we are where we are and why huge changes are surely inevitable.Twenty points off the leaders says it all.

Apologies for length of post, and I promise to shorten all subsequent ramblings significantly.

Great post

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Been reading the site for ages now, but with some of the comments posted, though largely understandable,so critical, was always a bit reticent about posting. But what the hell, the season is nearly over so why not?
Yes we probably could have won yesterday, but like so many games this season, more so the ones at home we didn't. and whilst yes okay we lost to a side that a couple of weeks ago hadn't won since October is it so hard to concede that they probably deserved it, and whilst the thought of being forced to getting used to such reverses is a really scary one, is it any scarier than the realisation we must all have now, of just how hard it is going to be to to get out of this 'tin pot' league full stop, which I guarantee is going to be a lot harder than any of us thought it would be when we kicked off in August. I don't know about you guys, but the fact the Grimsby are still here some 6,7 years later scares the life out of me.

It might not be a great league quality wise, but @#$%&, it's certainly competitive, and in truth, even though if results went with us, we may yet sneak into the play off's, we simply aren't and haven't consistently been anywhere near competitive enough, either collectively or individually to sustain even any real play off challenge, and with the realisation now fully sunk in to us all that in all likelihood we will unfortunately still be trekking down to Bromley and Braintree next year, we really need to start planning for the new season now.

I further believe even though he's had my support since day one, not least just because he's our manager, that inevitably it will mean bringing someone new to both make the required cull, and more importantly to oversea what must surely be some bloody major surgery

It is clear, first four games apart,that we need players with more commitment, more guile, more hunger, and certainly more pace, from back to front

The board have to wake up to the fact, and am sure they will, that contrary to what some think, we don't have a divine right to beat everyone, if only it was that simple, we don't even have the right to beat the teams at the bottom or so called smaller teams, and it's madness in such a competitive league to think we do.

That said it is so annoying when realising that all the teams in the relegation zone have taken points of us and if we are going to get out of this league those types of reversals do have to be eradicated.

If the likes of Dover and Braintree, both of whom play very direct football, can manage, on merit to get themselves into the play off's and do so with crowds much less than a quarter of ours and presumably have wage bills to reflect that difference, then what could, perhaps what should we be doing with the right players and the right leadership, neither of which unfortunately we have had this season which is why we are where we are and why huge changes are surely inevitable.Twenty points off the leaders says it all.

Apologies for length of post, and I promise to shorten all subsequent ramblings significantly.

Great post

Agreed. You're probably safe with long posts. Most of us haven't got the attention span for them.

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Been reading the site for ages now, but with some of the comments posted, though largely understandable,so critical, was always a bit reticent about posting. But what the hell, the season is nearly over so why not?
Yes we probably could have won yesterday, but like so many games this season, more so the ones at home we didn't. and whilst yes okay we lost to a side that a couple of weeks ago hadn't won since October is it so hard to concede that they probably deserved it, and whilst the thought of being forced to getting used to such reverses is a really scary one, is it any scarier than the realisation we must all have now, of just how hard it is going to be to to get out of this 'tin pot' league full stop, which I guarantee is going to be a lot harder than any of us thought it would be when we kicked off in August. I don't know about you guys, but the fact the Grimsby are still here some 6,7 years later scares the life out of me.

It might not be a great league quality wise, but @#$%&, it's certainly competitive, and in truth, even though if results went with us, we may yet sneak into the play off's, we simply aren't and haven't consistently been anywhere near competitive enough, either collectively or individually to sustain even any real play off challenge, and with the realisation now fully sunk in to us all that in all likelihood we will unfortunately still be trekking down to Bromley and Braintree next year, we really need to start planning for the new season now.

I further believe even though he's had my support since day one, not least just because he's our manager, that inevitably it will mean bringing someone new to both make the required cull, and more importantly to oversea what must surely be some bloody major surgery

It is clear, first four games apart,that we need players with more commitment, more guile, more hunger, and certainly more pace, from back to front

The board have to wake up to the fact, and am sure they will, that contrary to what some think, we don't have a divine right to beat everyone, if only it was that simple, we don't even have the right to beat the teams at the bottom or so called smaller teams, and it's madness in such a competitive league to think we do.

That said it is so annoying when realising that all the teams in the relegation zone have taken points of us and if we are going to get out of this league those types of reversals do have to be eradicated.

If the likes of Dover and Braintree, both of whom play very direct football, can manage, on merit to get themselves into the play off's and do so with crowds much less than a quarter of ours and presumably have wage bills to reflect that difference, then what could, perhaps what should we be doing with the right players and the right leadership, neither of which unfortunately we have had this season which is why we are where we are and why huge changes are surely inevitable.Twenty points off the leaders says it all.

Apologies for length of post, and I promise to shorten all subsequent ramblings significantly.

Great post

Agreed. You're probably safe with long posts. Most of us haven't got the attention span for them.

Excellent post. No need to apologise for the length. The ones that I don't like are those crammed with stats which often don't prove anything other than that the author has not been to the game.

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Been reading the site for ages now, but with some of the comments posted, though largely understandable,so critical, was always a bit reticent about posting. But what the hell, the season is nearly over so why not?
Yes we probably could have won yesterday, but like so many games this season, more so the ones at home we didn't. and whilst yes okay we lost to a side that a couple of weeks ago hadn't won since October is it so hard to concede that they probably deserved it, and whilst the thought of being forced to getting used to such reverses is a really scary one, is it any scarier than the realisation we must all have now, of just how hard it is going to be to to get out of this 'tin pot' league full stop, which I guarantee is going to be a lot harder than any of us thought it would be when we kicked off in August. I don't know about you guys, but the fact the Grimsby are still here some 6,7 years later scares the life out of me.

It might not be a great league quality wise, but @#$%&, it's certainly competitive, and in truth, even though if results went with us, we may yet sneak into the play off's, we simply aren't and haven't consistently been anywhere near competitive enough, either collectively or individually to sustain even any real play off challenge, and with the realisation now fully sunk in to us all that in all likelihood we will unfortunately still be trekking down to Bromley and Braintree next year, we really need to start planning for the new season now.

I further believe even though he's had my support since day one, not least just because he's our manager, that inevitably it will mean bringing someone new to both make the required cull, and more importantly to oversea what must surely be some bloody major surgery

It is clear, first four games apart,that we need players with more commitment, more guile, more hunger, and certainly more pace, from back to front

The board have to wake up to the fact, and am sure they will, that contrary to what some think, we don't have a divine right to beat everyone, if only it was that simple, we don't even have the right to beat the teams at the bottom or so called smaller teams, and it's madness in such a competitive league to think we do.

That said it is so annoying when realising that all the teams in the relegation zone have taken points of us and if we are going to get out of this league those types of reversals do have to be eradicated.

If the likes of Dover and Braintree, both of whom play very direct football, can manage, on merit to get themselves into the play off's and do so with crowds much less than a quarter of ours and presumably have wage bills to reflect that difference, then what could, perhaps what should we be doing with the right players and the right leadership, neither of which unfortunately we have had this season which is why we are where we are and why huge changes are surely inevitable.Twenty points off the leaders says it all.

Apologies for length of post, and I promise to shorten all subsequent ramblings significantly.

A very intelligent way of saying the team and manger are poo, don't disagree with any of it other than always thought it would be difficult and we had to hit the ground running, which we in fact did, goal difference of 5 after two games and 6 points, how things have changed. Because the league is so tough we need a man at the helm, who has great tactical knowledge an understanding of the game and how to change it and can spot a player, Monsieur Harvey for me but I fear so much Homer will be still with us come 1st August 2016.

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Been reading the site for ages now, but with some of the comments posted, though largely understandable,so critical, was always a bit reticent about posting. But what the hell, the season is nearly over so why not?
Yes we probably could have won yesterday, but like so many games this season, more so the ones at home we didn't. and whilst yes okay we lost to a side that a couple of weeks ago hadn't won since October is it so hard to concede that they probably deserved it, and whilst the thought of being forced to getting used to such reverses is a really scary one, is it any scarier than the realisation we must all have now, of just how hard it is going to be to to get out of this 'tin pot' league full stop, which I guarantee is going to be a lot harder than any of us thought it would be when we kicked off in August. I don't know about you guys, but the fact the Grimsby are still here some 6,7 years later scares the life out of me.

It might not be a great league quality wise, but @#$%&, it's certainly competitive, and in truth, even though if results went with us, we may yet sneak into the play off's, we simply aren't and haven't consistently been anywhere near competitive enough, either collectively or individually to sustain even any real play off challenge, and with the realisation now fully sunk in to us all that in all likelihood we will unfortunately still be trekking down to Bromley and Braintree next year, we really need to start planning for the new season now.

I further believe even though he's had my support since day one, not least just because he's our manager, that inevitably it will mean bringing someone new to both make the required cull, and more importantly to oversea what must surely be some bloody major surgery

It is clear, first four games apart,that we need players with more commitment, more guile, more hunger, and certainly more pace, from back to front

The board have to wake up to the fact, and am sure they will, that contrary to what some think, we don't have a divine right to beat everyone, if only it was that simple, we don't even have the right to beat the teams at the bottom or so called smaller teams, and it's madness in such a competitive league to think we do.

That said it is so annoying when realising that all the teams in the relegation zone have taken points of us and if we are going to get out of this league those types of reversals do have to be eradicated.

If the likes of Dover and Braintree, both of whom play very direct football, can manage, on merit to get themselves into the play off's and do so with crowds much less than a quarter of ours and presumably have wage bills to reflect that difference, then what could, perhaps what should we be doing with the right players and the right leadership, neither of which unfortunately we have had this season which is why we are where we are and why huge changes are surely inevitable.Twenty points off the leaders says it all.

Apologies for length of post, and I promise to shorten all subsequent ramblings significantly.

A very intelligent way of saying the team and manger are poo, don't disagree with any of it other than always thought it would be difficult and we had to hit the ground running, which we in fact did, goal difference of 5 after two games and 6 points, how things have changed. Because the league is so tough we need a man at the helm, who has great tactical knowledge an understanding of the game and how to change it and can spot a player, Monsieur Harvey for me but I fear so much Homer will be still with us come 1st August 2016.

The second Welling goal-every time I watch it ,it looks even worse than the previous time. It's almost as if quite a number of our players actually WANTED them to score. The lack of effort shown by us is absolutely staggering.

Only comment I feel of worth is the ref missing a very obvious handball in the area during the final minutes - absolute @#$%&, it just about sums up this league and the so called officials. I suggest the FA hire clowns from a passing circus to perform in future games (apologies to all if this is already the case).

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Only comment I feel of worth is the ref missing a very obvious handball in the area during the final minutes - absolute @#$%&, it just about sums up this league and the so called officials. I suggest the FA hire clowns from a passing circus to perform in future games (apologies to all if this is already the case).

More ref fiasco as excuses then, bearing in mind the refs are the same for Cheltenham, FG, Grimsby, Braintree, Eastleigh, Dover, Wrexham. You will not get every decision in every game and it all equals out as has been shown in a couple of high profile returns, West Hams woeful red y'day equality for the terrible one Palace had in the reverse fixture.

If Tranmere scored more goals than the other sides and stopped conceding as many goals and actually concentrated for 90+ minutes the refs decision wouldn't matter. Gary Brabin should be worrying about what he can control,and not what he can't but he seems to spend to much time bothering over custodians decisions it would be of equal use for him to spend that time pondering the England team selection because he can influence that just as much as the refs decisions. It's probably half the reason he doesn't see what's actually going on and then talks sh£t in post matches and can't alter the teams performance next week.

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Only comment I feel of worth is the ref missing a very obvious handball in the area during the final minutes - absolute @#$%&, it just about sums up this league and the so called officials. I suggest the FA hire clowns from a passing circus to perform in future games (apologies to all if this is already the case).

Yesterday's ref was one of the better ones we've had this season. We certainly didn't lose because of him.

they turned up in 7 taxis and took 3 easy points, enough said

What is ironic is the song that is sung to a very small bunch of away support (did you come in a taxi ) Welling came by taxi and took 3point

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They came in a taxi, the way Welling walked through them Rovers turned up as out of body experiences.



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Disgusting performance given the circumstances and how important it was. The manner in which we conceded the second goal summed it up, gutless, spineless, clueless.

I saw players hiding in the second half, no one taking responsibility, no one wanting to drive us forward. It reinforced my feelings of never really believing we would get into the playoffs.

A game that to be honest is symptomatic of how we have been for most home games this season.

Come on higgosboots ,that's an insult to ghosts everywhere 😡

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Only comment I feel of worth is the ref missing a very obvious handball in the area during the final minutes - absolute @#$%&, it just about sums up this league and the so called officials. I suggest the FA hire clowns from a passing circus to perform in future games (apologies to all if this is already the case).

More ref fiasco as excuses then, bearing in mind the refs are the same for Cheltenham, FG, Grimsby, Braintree, Eastleigh, Dover, Wrexham. You will not get every decision in every game and it all equals out as has been shown in a couple of high profile returns, West Hams woeful red y'day equality for the terrible one Palace had in the reverse fixture.

If Tranmere scored more goals than the other sides and stopped conceding as many goals and actually concentrated for 90+ minutes the refs decision wouldn't matter. Gary Brabin should be worrying about what he can control,and not what he can't but he seems to spend to much time bothering over custodians decisions it would be of equal use for him to spend that time pondering the England team selection because he can influence that just as much as the refs decisions. It's probably half the reason he doesn't see what's actually going on and then talks sh£t in post matches and can't alter the teams performance next week.

That old 'the referee is to blame' chesnut always angers me as well. Dont get me wrong in the heat of the moment, partisan as we all are, it's inevitable the man in black will be the reason for all our problems, but am sick to death of people always harping on about the 'ref cost us'

That said at the time I am as guilty as most, but then reflection sets in and if we are being honest we realise that whilst yes there was a dubious free kick, or something he missed, defeats was rarely down to the officials and most certainly not as often as we would all like to claim, and the master of apportioning blame to the man in black is I'm afraid Brabin who seems to use it as genuine mitigation for all our inadequacies.

As with all clubs small and big, we all believe the officials are to blame, but yet we all forget, in fact totally ignore all the decisions over the course of a season, hell even in the course of the last game that much to our astonishment went our way.

They don't count of course.

However, go on the forums of the teams we have just beat and you'll no doubt see that invariably their fans are equally orchestrated in condemning the same officials for not giving them, that handball or that penalty. You'll never stop it, it's one of the great things about football at any level, but if anyone thinks that even in part, incompetent officials are to blame for the predicament in which we now find ourselves, I suggest you need to look elsewhere as for many reasons, some obvious some not so, that's all pretty much self inflicted



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Only comment I feel of worth is the ref missing a very obvious handball in the area during the final minutes - absolute @#$%&, it just about sums up this league and the so called officials. I suggest the FA hire clowns from a passing circus to perform in future games (apologies to all if this is already the case).

More ref fiasco as excuses then, bearing in mind the refs are the same for Cheltenham, FG, Grimsby, Braintree, Eastleigh, Dover, Wrexham. You will not get every decision in every game and it all equals out as has been shown in a couple of high profile returns, West Hams woeful red y'day equality for the terrible one Palace had in the reverse fixture.

If Tranmere scored more goals than the other sides and stopped conceding as many goals and actually concentrated for 90+ minutes the refs decision wouldn't matter. Gary Brabin should be worrying about what he can control,and not what he can't but he seems to spend to much time bothering over custodians decisions it would be of equal use for him to spend that time pondering the England team selection because he can influence that just as much as the refs decisions. It's probably half the reason he doesn't see what's actually going on and then talks sh£t in post matches and can't alter the teams performance next week.

That old 'the referee is to blame' chesnut always angers me as well. Dont get me wrong in the heat of the moment, partisan as we all are, it's inevitable the man in black will be the reason for all our problems, but am sick to death of people always harping on about the 'ref cost us'

That said at the time I am as guilty as most, but then reflection sets in and if we are being honest we realise that whilst yes there was a dubious free kick, or something he missed, defeats was rarely down to the officials and most certainly not as often as we would all like to claim, and the master of apportioning blame to the man in black is I'm afraid Brabin who seems to use it as genuine mitigation for all our inadequacies.

As with all clubs small and big, we all believe the officials are to blame, but yet we all forget, in fact totally ignore all the decisions over the course of a season, hell even in the course of the last game that much to our astonishment went our way.

They don't count of course.

However, go on the forums of the teams we have just beat and you'll no doubt see that invariably their fans are equally orchestrated in condemning the same officials for not giving them, that handball or that penalty. You'll never stop it, it's one of the great things about football at any level, but if anyone thinks that even in part, incompetent officials are to blame for the predicament in which we now find ourselves, I suggest you need to look elsewhere as for many reasons, some obvious some not so, that's all pretty much self inflicted

Totally agree

Interesting to note that readers have 'picked' on the ref comment from my post- it was made only as it seems as though the handball was missed entirely on most 'other; match reports, and on that point I am absolutely correct, the incident should have resulted in a penalty - the ref had a very good view of the handball, as did a large section of the crowd, most would have settled for a draw after such a performance, yes generally that ref had a fairly decent game - with that one very glaring exception, full stop.
The initial mention in the post was - the only comment worth a mention.... I did not feel like making ANY comments on the manager / team selection or what the hell is going on in training and how it transcribes onto the pitch on match days - all of these point have been made previously (many times), I do not want to repeat for the sake of doing so, but the standard of these refs do annoy me - they are expected to be fair and honest - and yes that applies to all matches and for all teams.
However there could well be more surprise's in the league play off standings, noting who has still to play who (have a look at the run in fixtures), it's not all over just yet.
It's also quite interesting now to see who is 'playing' for places next season (only FIVE players are currently signed for next year, McNulty, Norwood, Sutton, Stockton & Marguetts), going to be several new faces me thinks.

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Interesting to note that readers have 'picked' on the ref comment from my post- it was made only as it seems as though the handball was missed entirely on most 'other; match reports, and on that point I am absolutely correct, the incident should have resulted in a penalty - the ref had a very good view of the handball, as did a large section of the crowd, most would have settled for a draw after such a performance, yes generally that ref had a fairly decent game - with that one very glaring exception, full stop.
The initial mention in the post was - the only comment worth a mention.... I did not feel like making ANY comments on the manager / team selection or what the hell is going on in training and how it transcribes onto the pitch on match days - all of these point have been made previously (many times), I do not want to repeat for the sake of doing so, but the standard of these refs do annoy me - they are expected to be fair and honest - and yes that applies to all matches and for all teams.
However there could well be more surprise's in the league play off standings, noting who has still to play who (have a look at the run in fixtures), it's not all over just yet.
It's also quite interesting now to see who is 'playing' for places next season (only FIVE players are currently signed for next year, McNulty, Norwood, Sutton, Stockton & Marguetts), going to be several new faces me thinks.

Maynard is and AFAIK Margetts isn't.

Hoots you could be right, perhaps I didn't hear correctly, I was 'momentarily distracted' at the moment Mark Palios said the last name, apologies all round if I did pick up an incorrect name, the other four I am certain of though, thanks for the clarification.