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TEAM REPRESENTATIVES: Ayao
KOMATSU (Haas), Mike KRACK (Aston Martin), Christian HORNER (Red Bull
Racing)
Q: Mike, can we start with you,
first of all? One of your drivers is celebrating a landmark occasion this
weekend, 400 races. Can we just start by discussing what makes Fernando
Alonso so special?
Mike KRACK: Yeah, I think that is a question that we could ask many, many
people in the F1 paddock. He has worked with a lot of teams already. I think
we are privileged to be able to organise the celebration now with the party,
but I think it's tribute to everybody that has worked with him for all these
years in the first place. But then, obviously, the individual, incredible
career over the last 20-plus years, 400 race starts. I wish I could give him
a winning car on Sunday. It would be difficult, but I think all in all, if
you look back, or if you look at how at an advanced stage of the career he's
still performing, it's incredible. So if you ask about character or
adjectives, there are many, but I think what you need to really point out is
the talent, obviously, as many people are having, but then the discipline
and foremost, I think the desire, the desire to compete, super competitive.
So super competitive, super disciplined and super talented.
Q: Can I bring in the other two on this particular topic? Ayao, you worked
with Fernando when you were at Renault. What is your overriding memory of
that time?
Ayao KOMATSU: Yes, I was a tyre engineer back then. So I was doing lots of
tyre testing with Fernando. And what struck me was just unbelievable ability
to understand. If you give him, ‘OK, I want you to do a 20-lap stint on
these tyres. I want you to do these laps times for the final five laps of
the stint, and then completely use up the tyre on the in-lap’, he can just
do that, bang on, knows exactly what it's going to be like by lap two, lap
three, how he drives. He knows what the tyre's going to be like on lap 20.
And he never underused or overused the tyres. He can really hit that, bang
on. I was really amazed at that ability. And also, like Mike said, just the
desire. He loves the sport, doesn't he? And just the desire. But yeah, that
was really an eye-opener for me.
Q: Christian, I believe you nearly signed Fernando on a couple of occasions.
What was it like to negotiate with him?
Christian HORNER: He's a formidable competitor. At the end of his McLaren
stint, the first one in 2008, I remember going to Madrid and pushing to get
him in the car. We wanted to do a two-year deal, and he was only prepared to
sign for one year. And we were convinced he had a Ferrari contract in his
back pocket at that point. So we didn't get to a deal. And had he come to us
in 2009, maybe things could have looked slightly differently. And even
halfway through the 2009 season, he was convinced if he got in our car, he
could still win the championship that year. So that was that point. We then
had a conversation… I remember meeting with him with Adrian in the back of a
hire car at Spa Airport. I think that was around 2011, ‘11 or ’12, about
coming across from Ferrari and then even as early as the beginning of this
year. So it's incredible the longevity that he's had, the competitiveness
that he has, and the statistics for the talent that he has and the ability
he has. Two World Championships don't do him justice. He should have won
more than that.
Q: Alright, thanks. Mike, let's come back to you. How is Fernando, first of
all? He wasn't at the track yesterday because he was feeling poorly. Is he
OK today?
MK: Yeah, he came this morning all normal. We were in touch, obviously, all
the time. So he's fine and he will drive now the second session.
Q: Alright, let's talk car performance now, with regards to Aston. You had
the upgrade in Austin last weekend. Did it perform as expected and will that
translate here in Mexico?
MK: Yeah, I mean, if you look at it, it was a Sprint weekend. We decided to
start with both cars identical, basically throwing everything at it. And it
was not easy the whole weekend. We turned the car up, we turned it down, we
went stiff, we went soft. But we couldn't really extract the performance
that we wanted to extract from it. As I said, it was tough. And from this,
we said, ‘OK, we come to Mexico, and then we have to do a little bit more
homework’. We will have a bit more time. You have seen probably both cars
had big rakes on today. They ran with different specifications and they will
run also different specifications this afternoon. So it's about
understanding what we have not understood yet and do better going forward.
Q: It seems you're experimenting a lot at the moment. How are you viewing
these last five races of the season? Is it all about 2025 and preparing
yourself as best as possible for that?
MK: Yeah, I think that is the case for most of the teams. Everybody has his
eyes on ‘25, except if you have big ambitions for the championship or
different championship positions. So it's about learning the maximum. But
then we also, this is not only a learning exercise. We're not here for
learning only. I think when Saturday and Sunday start, you have to go racing
and you have to go with the best car you have, so I think the Friday is good
to experiment and to try and learn for the future, prepare as much as you
can, but then come Saturday, Sunday, I think you have to run what you think
is the fastest you have.
Q: Thank you. A final one from me, Mike. Andy Cowell, Group CEO, was at
Austin. It was his first race with the team. How was the debrief after the
race weekend? What comments did he have about the team?
MK: Well, it was very good to have Andy around in Austin so that he gets an
overview of how we operate at the track. He was at the factory already for a
couple of weeks. It's obviously a lot about getting to know the people,
getting to know how we do things. And I have to say, I'm very, very positive
about how we went so far. A very calm, very structured approach, very
factual. which is very promising. And from the early talks, early beginnings
or early conversations, I think I get an understanding why he was so
successful in the places where he was before.
Q: Mike, thank you for that. I'm sure there'll be more questions for you in
a minute. Ayao, can we come to you now? So five consecutive points finishes
for the team. Just tell us, first of all, what is the atmosphere like inside
Haas at the moment?
AK: Yeah, atmosphere is really good, so obviously scoring points is
difficult, but we have to put everything together, so to do that in five
consecutive events is great. So, yeah, atmosphere is really positive.
Q: Now, let's talk upgrades. Obviously, it was a big upgrade in Austin, it
worked, but it appears that all of the upgrades you're introducing this year
are working when you put them on the car. That hasn't always been the case
for the team. What's changed?
AK: Yes, so this year, all the upgrades, it's not like everything worked
completely perfectly, but none of the upgrades made our car slower, so every
time we put upgrades on the car, we actually made the car faster. What's
changed, it's really, we’ve still got the similar people, same people,
really, so details about communication, trying to work together as a team,
listen to each other, give people freedom. so really those are let's say
simple fundamental things that we really focused on and I'm really pleased
that they're now you know seeing the result of it
Q: And you're in a an intense battle in the Constructors’ championship with
VCARB, just two points the difference and at the moment you're ahead. Who do
you feel has the faster car at the moment?
AK: I think it really depends on the event. You know, they've got upgrades
here as well. And then, so, like, FP1, they looked quick. We're not very
happy with the car. So I think it really depends every event. And also,
like, even track temperature, that can swing things as well. So it's very
difficult to say who's got upper hand for remaining five races. I think
we've got to maximise everything you've got every day, every race.
Q: Okay, final one from me. The technical partnership with Toyota. You
announced that before the Austin weekend. You went to Japan for the
announcement. It's working in addition to your existing relationships with
Dallara and Ferrari. Can you just tell us a little bit more about how you're
weaving it all together to work in harmony?
AK: Yeah, obviously, Ferrari and Dallara has been amazing partners since day
one. And then as you can see, you know, Ferrari, obviously, the PU partner,
gearbox, suspension, hydraulics, et cetera. Those areas, obviously, Toyota's
not touching. You know, the area that Toyota's touching is the area that we
don't get support from Ferrari, and that we've been doing it on our own. So,
yeah, that really just adds to our capability and then a chance to
understand the car better so that we can make our team more competitive.
Q: And how long-term is this deal with Toyota? I mean, hypothetically, if
Gene Haas were to say one day that he wanted to sell his team, do Toyota
have first refusal on buying it?
AK: To start with, Gene's not selling the team. Every single time he's
asking me, how can we go better? What can we do to make the car go faster?
He's not interested in selling. I believe he had so many offers, actually,
but he refused every single one of them. So the team's not up for sale. And
then we haven't even spoken about a first refusal or anything like that.
That's not being on the topic. It is a long term, very long term.
Q: Alright Ayao, thank you for that. I'm sure there'll be more questions for
you in a minute. Christian, coming to you now. Max was saying last weekend
in Austin that the RB20 has taken a step forward. Just how big a step?
CH: I think it was a positive step, I mean, to get the pole for the Sprint,
to win the Sprint race. Arguably, we were certainly in contention for the
pole for the Grand Prix, qualified ultimately on the front row. The bit that
we under-delivered on, I think with the set-up changes perhaps after the
Sprint race that we perhaps overcompensated, was the Grand Prix itself,
where we just had too much understeer in the car. So a Sprint race win, a
fighting third, was a very positive weekend. And I think that the engineers,
design team and manufacturing, supply chain, they've been all working
tremendously hard back in the UK and it's good to see performance getting
through to the car.
Q: Okay, there was a slight engine problem on Max's car this morning, but
have you seen enough already in FP1 to believe that the performance will
translate here in Mexico?
CH: It's a different circuit. It's a different challenge. Obviously, the
altitude here, things work a bit differently. We hit a piece of signage that
fell off the bridge in the first session, which did a little bit of damage
to the floor, but that's been repaired. The engine issue, thankfully, was a
menial issue and has been rectified, hopefully, for the next session.
Q: So, let's talk about Checo, home race this weekend. Now in the press
conference yesterday, he described 2024, and I'm quoting him now, as a
terrible season. How would you describe it?
CH: I think he's summed it up perfectly. It's been a bad year for Checo. He
started strongly and obviously he's struggled for form since pretty much
Imola onwards and it's been sporadic. We saw flashes of performance,
Azerbaijan, arguably he could have won that race almost a month ago. So we
know what he's capable of and we're hoping that we can give him a set-up and
the confidence in the car to extract the kind of performances that we know
he's very capable of.
Q: What does the future hold for Checo?
CH: Look, Checo's our driver. He's contracted for 2025. He's competitive.
He's hungry. He's not happy with where he currently is. So as a team, we're
doing our very best to support him. Obviously, the big weekend for him here,
huge support. I think he's endorsing every product from Uber Eats to toilet
roll this weekend, so it's impressive how many endorsements he's managed to
line up for himself.
Q: Christian, this is probably a nice segue to talk about Liam Lawson. How
impressed were you by his comeback race in Austin?
CH: I was very impressed. I mean, to jump in the car, a circuit that he'd
not been to before, the pressure of just having to get in and get on with it
over a Sprint weekend, I thought he acquitted himself very well. And I think
that to go from the back to ninth and score points on his seasonal debut, I
thought he did a super job.
Q: What do you think he'd do in a Red Bull?
CH: I mean, that's difficult to hypothesize. I mean, he's obviously a
talented guy. We know a bit about him from the work he's been doing in tire
testing and so on. And he's a talent that's continuing to nurture and
continuing to grow. So it's interesting to see how he performs over these
remaining five races.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Luke Smith – The Athletic) Christian, on the driver front, Helmut has
suggested it might be at the end of the season that you guys make a decision
on where drivers are placed next year between Liam and Checo. Is that the
plan? Are you going to get to the end of the year to give it the fullness of
time to assess everything? And what can Checo do in these final five races
to ensure he's definitely in that seat next year?
CH: Well, as I mentioned earlier, Checo has a contract for next year, so
he's currently our driver for 2025. Obviously, there is a seat available at
VCARB, and they're all Red Bull racing drivers that are on loan. So, you
know, we have the benefit of time to sit down with Laurent and Peter and
look at all the options.
Q: (Niharika Ghorpade – Sportskeeda) Christian, there has been a war of
words between you and McLaren. And Andrea Stella, after the race, clearly
denied appealing against the decision by the stewards in the race against
Norris. And now they have applied for appeal against it today and there's a
summoning for Red Bull. So does there seem to be some kind of vendetta that
McLaren have towards Red Bull? Is it just speculation that such a narrative
has been doing the rounds?
CH: I didn't catch all of that. I think it was mainly about McLaren and
accusations that are being made. Well, first of all, in terms of war of
words, I'm always intrigued to read that because I don't think we've been
making too many comments about McLaren. Obviously, they've raised their
right of review over last weekend, which is their right. And the FIA will
hear that through their process. Now, inevitably, when you're running at the
sharp end, then everything comes under more scrutiny. And you can feel that,
you know, certainly McLaren are being quite vocal in certain aspects, you
know, about many, many parts ofour team, our car, stewards, et cetera, et
cetera.
Q: (Dan Lawrence – Motorsport Monday) Question for Christian. I've noticed
throughout the year you've seen the praises of your junior driver, Arvid
Lindblad. So I was just wondering if you could go into more detail about
what impresses you so much about him. And secondly, with him progressing to
F2 next year, Isack in an F2 title fight this year, does that sort of have
an implication on how you structure the 2025 F1 driver line-up across the
two teams?
CH: Well, firstly, both the juniors are very impressive, Isack Hadjar and
Arvid Lindblad. Isack competing, as you say, for that Formula 2 championship
and showing great promise this year. And when you see the quality of the F2
guys jumping in and delivering the way they are, I think it shows the level
and the standard that's currently in the junior category. You know, Arvid is
definitely a talent for the future. I think that he's got the right
attitude. He's got the right approach and determination. And certainly what
we've seen in some of his racing, Silverstone in particular this year, you
know, he's a very talented driver. So only time will tell how good he is and
how far he can go. But certainly he and Isack are both talents that we're
quite excited about.
Q: (Alex Kalinauckas – Autosport) Another question to Christian on a very
similar topic actually. I wondered if you could give us your overall
assessment of the health of the Red Bull Young Driver Programme. I mean in
the past you've brought a significant number of drivers into Formula 1, some
of whom wouldn't have made it without your backing, but of late seems to be
a little bit more of a struggle to get young drivers through and certainly
to get them successful. So what's going on there and what do you think about
it?
CH: I think the junior programme has been tremendously successful over the
years. We're giving many, many drivers the opportunity of getting to Formula
1, and even if that's not with Red Bull Racing, that they've gone on to have
careers in other teams. And the programme has changed a little. It was, in
previous years, quite top-heavy in talent in Formula 2, Formula 3. That's
been inverted now, so we're going further down the chain. I think Helmut has
just signed his first nine-year-old. So, you know, we've got youngsters in
karting, we've got youngsters in the junior formally, and it's always been a
philosophy of Red Bull to invest in young talent. And, you know, that
continues to very much be the case.
Q: (Christian Menath – Motorsport-magazin.com) Another question for you,
Christian. You talked earlier about Fernando and the three times you were
talking to him about a potential contract with Red Bull Racing. The first
two, I think, are more or less well documented so far. The third one you
mentioned was at the beginning of the year. Given the fact that you have two
drivers on the contract, what was the scenario you discussed with Fernando
at the beginning of the year?
CH: Well, at that time, Sergio's contract hadn't been extended, so as
Fernando is a seasoned operator, you know, he always wants to know all of
his options, and between him and his manager or advisor of many years,
Flavio, they're always, you know, testing the market, and it just shows how
hungry and competitive he is. And, you know, he's still delivering at 42
years of age. Is he 42? 43. He's still in great shape and it just shows that
age is just a number. So, yeah, you know, he's still a very, very capable
Grand Prix driver and given the tools, I'm sure he'd be at the front.
Q: (Erwin Jaeggi – Motorsport.com) Another question for Christian. Honda has
been pushing for a Red Bull F1 test for Yuki. Yuki has been asking for it.
Where are you currently with this? And do you think Yuki is deserving of a
Red Bull F1 test chance, given his current performance?
CH: Well, Yuki, obviously, again, is a member of the junior team. It's
something that we have discussed with Honda. We gave Yuki a run up the hill
at Goodwood earlier the year, that was unexpected. And he was the first
driver to drive a current Formula 1 car in an open-faced helmet and goggles.
So he will test the car again at the test following the conclusion of the
season. It's something that's been agreed for quite some time and it will
again be good to give him a run and get the opportunity to work with Red
Bull Racing engineers and see how he performs in a Red Bull Racing car.
Q: (Tim Hauraney – TSN) Question for all three of you. Following on from the
battle between Max and Lando at Circuit of the America's a conversation
around track deterrence has come up. I just wanted to get your guys'
opinions on track deterrence because all three of you have been in
motorsports for a very long time.
AK: Yeah, I think sometimes we have rules that are not really solving the
fundamental issues. I think for me, like a qualifying maximum safety
guideline time is the same thing, then these driving guidelines, it creates
other problems, right? So for me, I'd like to see much simpler solution
where drivers can race more freely. That's my personal opinion.
MK: Yeah, there has been a lot of discussions around it over the last weeks.
I think mainly because it was the two championship contenders, but there has
been other overtakes with letting each other room or not room or trying to
pass on the outside. To be honest, I think the majority of incidents have
been judged correctly, if you take the guidelines as they are. Now you can
discuss are the guidelines the right way to go racing or not, but I think
that is something that FIA and the drivers have agreed at the start of the
year and that is what is being applied. To be honest, I do not really get
why there is such a such an uproar at the moment about it. we had a circuit
where obviously you can run on the outside and then you also try to use it
to your advantage. So, all in all, I think you know early on the year we
were among the concerned at time. We had a good look at it and we think that
in the majority as I said it has been dealt with in the correct way.
CH: Yeah, I think these things are discussed at length with the team
managers and drivers, and I think we've got a set of guidelines that are
pretty clear. In some cases, they make cricket look simple. But I think the
fundamental thing about last weekend is it's natural that two drivers are
going to push each other hard, and you can't overtake off the circuit. Now,
for me, there would be a much simpler solution that... We saw it in Austria.
You put gravel on the exit of a corner, drivers won't go there. And I know
that cost and restrictions come in from that perspective, but I think if you
have a deterrent on the exit of a corner, like Turn 12, for example, in
Austin, and you wouldn't find a driver running wide because he's going to go
significantly slower, maybe damage his car and cost him significant time. So
for me, keep it simple. Try and go back to basics.
Q: (Luke Smith – The Athletic) For all three of you, Ollie Oakes has joined
your gang this year as the newest F1 team principal. I just want to get your
thoughts on. have you found working with Ollie so far? And Christian, your
experience as being a very young team principal, he's 36, not too far off
your age when you started.
CH: Well, it's great to see, you know, a bunch of new guys coming in,
whether it's Ayao or Ollie. And, you know, it was interesting. I remember my
first Formula 1 Commission meeting that I attended at Heathrow back in 2005.
And, you know, Ron Dennis was there, and Flavio was there, and Jean Todt was
there for Ferrari. Bernie was running it with Max Mosley and so on, and I
remember sitting through the meeting and loads of things were discussed but
absolutely was nothing was agreed and coming out of the meeting I was quite
confused as to, other than the day of the week it was and when the next
meeting was going to be, nothing had been concluded. And O was glad to see
the progress in the last 20 years has been significant because I got the
impression from Ollie following the meeting that he had no idea what had
been agreed or that there was any conclusions to anything. But it's great to
see new blood coming into Formula 1.
MK: Yeah, there's some similarities to when I joined. I thought about this.
It's very similar to you, Christian. And I think Ollie thought the same. But
I think Ollie is not a beginner. He was very successful in junior categories
with Hitech. I think he has been a great driver. So I think he knows or
understands racing inside out. You have to be careful. He comes across as
very young and junior, but he knows everything about racing and how teams
are run and operated. He has been a nice addition. He's a great guy, a nice
guy. I met him in Austin on Wednesday, by coincidence, and we had a small
chat. He's a good guy and a great addition to the club. Maybe you ask him
next time when he's sitting here to see what he thinks about it.
AK: Yeah, I've only started in January, so I'm in the same boat, you know.
No, it's an exciting opportunity, interesting opportunity. I'm sure he's
highly capable and he's really enjoying that. So, yeah, good to have him.
Q: (Louis Dekker – NOS) Christian, I had an answer for you prepared about
gravel, but you already did. So I've got another question about engines,
gearboxes, et cetera. Do you think MAX will need to take more grid penalties
in the remaining races, or are you safe?
CH: I don't think you're ever safe, as we've just seen in the last session.
But hopefully, that's just a small issue. I think it's something probably
more of a question for our engine partner as to how comfortable they feel
getting to the end of the year. But you're always on the limit.
Q: (Adam Cooper – Adam Cooper F1) Another question for Christian. Can I ask
you about the right of review from McLaren? I know it's ongoing. Were you
surprised that suddenly popped up, considering how rarely they ever succeed?
Do you know what their new evidence is? Does it have any merit at all?
CH: Well, obviously, there's a criteria that it has to fill. Whether it
fills that, I'm not sure. I don't think there is any new evidence. So, look,
I mean, you have to trust in the process. I think the Stewards are in
difficult positions. I felt that the calls they made were absolutely fair
and right at the weekend. You can't overtake a car off the circuit. So, you
know, that's where we are. It's McLaren's right to invoke that. Yeah,
they're probably ruining the fact that they didn't let Max back past because
they had such a pace advantage at that part of the race with the overlap of
the fresher tyre that they would have probably quite easily passed Max in
those last four laps anyway.
Q: (Esteban Aceves – ESPN Mexico) Christian, I would like to ask you about
race engineer Hugh Bird. In Mexico, he has been criticised alongside Checo
Perez's performance. What do you think about that?
CH: Look, I mean, when you put yourself out there as a race engineer and
you're the voice speaking to the driver, in today's world of digital media,
everybody has an opinion. Everybody has their own view on things. Now, I
think Hugh does a super job. He's a really bright guy. He's grown up in the
team. He's out there giving his best for his driver, for his team. And I
think it's very harsh for people to judge and criticise from the outside
when they have about 1% of the facts of what he's actually dealing with. So,
yeah, I mean, the great thing about opening up everything in Formula 1 is
the access that we now give. The downside is the amount of armchair
specialists and experts that we get that it opens up to. Hugh Bird is a very
talented engineer and an important part of our team, and I think any
criticism of him is unfair. |