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PART ONE - TEAM
REPRESENTATIVES
Franz TOST (AlphaTauri), Guenther STEINER (Haas), James VOWLES (Williams)
Q: Guenther, how was the break?
Busy with driver contracts or was that already sorted before you went on
holiday?
Guenther STEINER: Break was good, as normal too short, for all of us but no,
the driver contracts, they were sorted before. I mean, it was… obviously
when we got back, we got them signed and all the legal stuff done, but that
was not a difficult bit of work, you know? There’s a lot more things to do
which are more difficult than signing the drivers.
Q: Tell us a little more about Nico and Kevin. What makes them such a good
pairing?
GS: I think we are, with the drivers, in a good place at the moment. And I
always said, after our bad seasons, we need to build-up again. And I think
we have got two solid drivers. Obviously Nico, we never worked with him
before, but he fitted in very well with the team. He’s an asset to the team,
like Kevin, and it was a very easy decision, what we are going to be doing.
They both fit in, they just like what they are doing. Nico is happy to be
back in F1. They are helping us to develop the team again, which was always
the aim: to have two experienced drivers, just to keep on building the team.
Because at the moment, our weakest part is the car. We need to have a better
car and we are working on it, and they are actively involved in that, and
they enjoy it. I don’t have to ask them for their input, they really want to
know what’s going on and they both are confident that we can get it sorted
out, that we are getting back where we want to be. So, I think the
relationship on a personal level is good with both of them, so on the
driver-side it’s all good. A lot of other things to do.
Q: When you were planning for 2024, was anyone else in the reckoning, or was
it always going to be Hülkenberg and Magnussen?
GS: No, the aim was to keep them for stability. Once we saw, when Nico came
back after three races, we knew that he was back at his best, so I never had
any talks with anybody else.
Q: And would you say this is the strongest driver-pairing Haas has ever had?
GS: You can never say that because the circumstances change. You don’t have
the same car, you’re not having the same opponents, so it’s difficult to
say, but we are having a very strong one and for sure maybe it’s as good as
we had before or even better.
Q: Now, you’ve said the biggest issue is the car, not the drivers. Let’s
talk a little bit about the car now and what your goals are for the rest of
this season. You’re tied on 11 points with Williams. Are you confident that
you can beat Williams come season’s end?
GS: No, I’m not confident. They are doing very well. At the moment we are
tied on points but they’re in front of us. Our aim is to do the best job
possible with what we have got every weekend. To get the best out of it. And
I think we, most of the time, have achieved it. We just need to get our pace
better. We are working very hard and hopefully we can get to a stage in this
season that we put a big upgrade on that will give us the direction for next
season. That is the aim for us, that we understand where we need to go for
next season. It’s no point to do something, going in a direction and then
waiting to find out until Bahrain – because then it’s again too late. So, I
think that is one of the aims of doing it now. Obviously time is now an
issue because there are 10 races left and only four months in the calendar
year – or three months of racing, not even four months – so, we are trying
to do our best, and everybody is working very hard in Italy on this.
Everybody is on it, we need to fix this and is positive about it. Obviously
now we need to get it sorted. But even if we don't achieve what we want to
achieve, I think we make a step towards what we want to be in the future.
Even if the result is not immediately a positive one, at least we know what
is possible and can build on that one. So, it’s a lot of things going on at
the moment. So, as I said, having the drivers’ signing out of the way is a
good thing and now we need to work on the next one, which is the car.
Q: You talk about an upgrade. When can we expect to see that later this
year?
GS: I don’t make any promises, because otherwise, every time, every time,
everybody asks me every race, ‘when is the upgrade coming?’ ‘how is the
upgrade doing?’ So, we try to do it as soon as possible, hopefully in the
middle of the 10 races left.
Q: And final one from me. Thoughts on the remainder of this weekend at
Zandvoort. What did you learn in FP1? How confident are you?
GS: The track improved a lot over the session. We did a lot of testing
because we have got a new front wing here. And also we went out there and
did different set-ups of the front wing, just to get data, so at the moment
it looks good. I don’t really have a feel for what is happening yet after
FP1. It’s always difficult after FP1 to forecast what will happen on the
weekend, so nothing different here in Zandvoort than anywhere else.
Q: Franz, Yuki’s 10th place at Spa, just before the break, gave AlphaTauri a
timely lift. With that in mind, what are your goals for the second half of
this 2023 season?
Franz TOST: To score more points than one. Of course the target is that we
are within the first 10, to score points. I think that the performance of
the car improved in the last two or three races and there are coming some
other upgrades and I hope together with Daniel and Yuki that we can continue
to score points.
Q: What are the limitations of this car?
FT: It’s still a little bit the aerodynamics. We have too little downforce
and therefore many times we overheat the tyres, especially the rear tyres,
and I hope now we can find solutions to prevent this. The aero team is going
in the right direction and I’m quite optimistic for the future.
Q: Daniel Ricciardo has been with the team for a couple of races already.
What has his feedback been about this car?
FT: His feedback is quite positive. He feels good in the car and, of course,
there are some deficiencies, otherwise he would be in front – but I think
that with this real valid feedback which we get from Daniel we can make
further steps on the development side, because he is very experienced and he
has already given us a lot of important information about the car behaviour
and engineers are working on this now.
Q: Tell us a little bit more about Daniel and the two races so far. How well
has he done?
FT: I think he has done a very good job because we must not forget that he
was out of the car for a long time and when he came back, he immediately
felt quite familiar with the team, because he knew many people from the past
and also, regarding the car, he is getting a better feeling now and already
today, after the FP1, he gave us really good feedback and I think this will
help us also for the next races.
Q: And how is the dynamic between Yuki and Daniel different to the dynamic
between Yuki and Nyck before?
FT: The dynamic is quite similar, because Yuki has a good relationship with
Daniel, as well as he had with Nyck. And from this point of view, I must say
we have a really good relationship between the drivers.
Q: OK, what about Zandvoort this weekend? What can we expect from you guys?
FT: I expect one car in Q3 and the other car at the front part of Q2.
Q: Which driver is going to do which?
FT: I don’t care about this.
Q: James, let's come to you now. The break offered everyone in Formula 1 a
chance to reflect on the opening 12 races of the season. What conclusions
did you draw? Because it has been quite a year for you so far?
James VOWLES: I think the first conclusion I came to is that the team… I'm
very proud of what the team has achieved. They've come from several years of
really being punished and not achieving a terrible amount, and their heads
are lifted high, they're responding to the direction of travel that we're
going into and oddly, you can see the start of a cultural change as well,
that’s happening. A culture doesn't change overnight. It doesn't change even
in six months. It's years’ worth of work. But the facts are the team is
ready to change. And that's one of the things I'm proud of them for. And I
think, you know, there's points we've left on the table but for the most
part, we've picked up every point that we could so far. Where we are, tied
up with Haas, I think is a fantastic position, a position that we would have
dreamed of before the season started. Where we go from here though, is this
is the start of the journey and what I'm more excited by is the next few
years rather than the last few months.
Q: On a personal level, what lessons have you learned about Formula 1 as a
team principal that you didn't know before?
JV: There's many. It would take this entire press conference for me to
probably summarise them but I'd be disappointed if I'm not continuously
learning through this journey, every single month, every single year and be
disappointed if you didn't ask me that question in one year time, and I
still didn't answer, ‘I'm still learning every day’. The largest thing is
this: you move from running small teams, even large teams, to an
organisation, and they're very different requirements. There's not one
single day where you're focused on the same thing. Typically you are in
about 10 to 12 different meetings, each one of those on different subjects:
it can be drivers, marketing, what’s happening in Las Vegas, engineering,
performance, aerodynamics. And it's exciting. It's interesting, it'll keep
you on your toes the whole time. And I think that dynamic and the ability to
have to cover-off so many subject areas so quickly was… nothing can really
train you for it until you’re in it.
Q: Now you've been quoted as saying the focus at the factory now is on 2024.
Is that the case?
JV: Yeah, the car we have, that’s it. Unlike Haas, who I think are a fierce
adversary, a fierce fight, we don’t have anything more coming for the
remainder of the year. So, we have to try and pick up the points that are
going to be available to us when they're going to be available to us. The
focus – and not just now, but actually from a while back – has been on ’24,
and actually part of the focus on ’25 and on ’26 as well. At the moment,
we're in a fierce battle for this 10th, ninth, eighth, seventh. I want the
team, for them, and for me as well to be in a fierce battle for positions
above there. And you can't do that by continuously developing what you have
at the moment. You do that by thinking forward into the future, and that
will have a cost associated with it, potentially even going backwards for a
year, but to go forwards again in the future.
Q: But given that the regulations are not changing very much over the
winter, is there merit in pushing with what you've got now?
JV: Not with where we are. There's too much that we're changing, as a
fundamental, and you can't do the two things at the same time. I’d much
rather focus on breaking systems and rebuilding them rather than trying to
make do.
Q: Can we talk about drivers now? Alex Albon: there's been an increasing
amount of interest in him. And you've worked with some of the best drivers
in the history of Formula 1. How high should Alex aim?
JV: His message I think was on point, which is he should be aiming for
winning races and being on the podium. He has the potential and he frankly
deserves to be in that position. But more so that's a journey he's happy to
do with Williams, whilst we're on the pathway towards it at the same time.
And I think that's the perfect summary of that situation. He's a racing
driver coming to the peak of his career, he should absolutely be focused on
doing the best he can with his God-given ability, while it still exists. But
his lifecycle is 10… I mean, if you look at Fernando, it's 13 years that he
has in front of him. He has a good amount of time in front of him now. But
I'd be disappointed if any team-mate joined me and said ‘all I'm interested
in doing is scoring the odd point’. They shouldn't. They should be focused
on winning races and performing at the utmost.
Q: OK, final one for me. Logan Sargeant, what's he got to do to stay with
the team next year?
VW: It's ultimately… Formula 1 is the pinnacle of motor sport. It's a fierce
competition. It's a meritocracy. You have to earn your place there. He has
to keep developing and moving forward. It needs improvements on consistency,
which I’ve said through the season. The gap to Alex needs to remain the same
and shrink over time. If we take a step back, we've put Logan in a situation
where he came straight out of F2, had a day and a half of testing… Good
luck, you’re a Formula 1 driver. And, I think, when I reflect on this year,
this is probably more difficult than any other year I’ve been in the sport
for throwing someone in at the deep end and allowing them the time to
catch-up. We didn’t do any running in previous Williams cars, that was it.
His time here is his time here. There’s elements where he keeps growing and
finding performance and improvements, and performance under pressure. That’s
what we’re looking for. The rate of learning has to increase now. He’s aware
of all of that, and I think he has a huge maturity beyond his years. He
knows that in front of him is a career and a journey that’s within his power
to control. And our job is to support him on that journey rather than punish
him.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Scott Mitchell-Malm – The Race) It’s a question for James, just on the
focus for next year’s car, where does the leadership and direction for the
car concept and design come from – because obviously there was a change at
the end of last year with the technical leadership and on the aerodynamic
side, so how has that complicated development through this year and then how
do you work on changing the car for next year?
JV: Yeah, obviously good question. Pat [Fry] won’t be here with us in time
to really have an influence on certainly the early elements of next year’s
car. I’ve formed a group of individuals, which includes some strong people
from aerodynamics, Dave Warner, who’s acting as our interim technical
director, myself as well, Dave Robson who’s here at the track. And
effectively it’s not the optimum way of doing it but there are a group of
individuals that are basically agreeing the direction of travel that we
should be going in. All of us sensible decision-makers but it means we’re
united in our view of where we’re going. And I think thus far, to a certain
extent, what you see right now has been the formation of that, and it’s in
the right direction of travel but clearly it’s not a long-term solution. The
long-term solution is having Pat come in and basically have a lot more hold
on the reins of that direction of travel. But what I needed more than
anything else when I joined was having the ability to link up all of the
parts of the organisation so we’re pushing in the same direction, which is
now what’s happening – and I’m comfortable it’ll produce a sensible step as
we go through it.
Q: (Luke Smith – The Athletic) Franz, it’s a question for you please.
Laurent Mekies has now left Ferrari, could you give an update on his
start-date with AlphaTauri and what the transition process is going to look
like for him taking over as team principal?
FT: First of January, 2024.
Q: (Ed Spencer – Total-motorsport.com) Question to all three of you. We’ve
seen Robert Shwartzman out on track today doing an FP1. When will you guys
put a young driver in for a free practice? Have you got everyone lined up or
are you still deciding on who goes and who doesn’t.
FT: Abu Dhabi, Isack Hadjar.
GS: Mexico and Abu Dhabi.
JV: I’m going to add more words, just to fill it out a little bit. From our
perspective, Logan’s already completed his requirement to do so, and then
we’ll be looking towards the end of the year, most likely Abu Dhabi for the
second, still in discussion who it is. We have a number of junior drivers, I
want to see how they perform across the Monza weekend. And we have other
options on the table as well.
Q: (Matt Kew – Autosport) A question for Franz and James, as Guenther has
affirmed, he’s stuck with experience and you’re talking about Logan needing
to find consistency. With more Sprint races, when there’s only one practice
session, with a cost cap, is it harder and harder to stick by a young
driver, or introduce young drivers when it seems more and more geared
towards experience and a safer pair of hands?
JV: I would say yes. That’s what I meant by… on reflection, and I didn’t
realise this in January, but on reflection, now that I have Logan as a part
of the team, you look back as to how we are now with an ATA format, Sprint
race format, wet weather as well, appearing pretty much most weekends and
you’re in a situation where their learning cycle is significantly reduced,
relative to what I knew five, 10, 15 years ago. I think it’s probably worthy
of a rethink at certain levels as to what we can do to help drivers in that
circumstance – because ultimately, we will get ourselves into a position
where we are not adding new drivers at the rate we want to – or you have to
give them so long in the car that you’ll compromise your performance. That’s
a longer-term discussion than obviously this press conference here.
FT: It will become much more difficult for rookie drivers to come into
Formula 1 than it was a couple of years ago. Why? Because first of all, the
field is very, very close together. For a second, on the financial side, 10,
15 years ago, you got maybe for the tenth position, $20-$30million US
dollars. Nowadays, you get $70, $80, $90 million. That means there’s a big
difference and I think the direction will go the way that you try to have
experienced drivers in the team because otherwise you’re in the back of the
Constructors’ Championship, and apart from this, with the new race mode we
have six Sprint races which means only FP1 and then already you have the
Qualifying. This is everything a big disadvantage for your rookie drivers.
If you want to bring in a young driver, you have to prepare him in the best
possible way – which means to do minimum five to six thousand kilometres the
year before, with private tests, and then it must be really high-skilled
drivers otherwise it’s really difficult for them, because, don’t forget, at
the beginning of the season, they don’t know the race tracks. Most of them
have never been in Melbourne, in Miami, in Saudi Arabia. All of the second
half of the season is a problem with Singapore, Japan, Austin, Mexico, São
Paulo, Qatar, they all don’t know these race tracks because they are racing
in Formula 2 and most of these races are in Europe, and therefore, once
more, if you will want to bring in a rookie driver, you really have to
prepare him in the best possible way, otherwise, no chance.
Q: Franz, you’ve worked with so many drivers, on the topic of not knowing a
race track, how long does it take a driver to learn a new track?
FT: The driver knows the new track immediately but the circumstances are
different. For example, if they go out in FP1, you have a track temperature
of let's say 35 degrees, and then in qualifying 40 degrees. In Qualifying,
maybe you have side wind or headwind or whatever, this changes everything.
And this makes it so difficult and the performance of the teams is on such a
high level, the cars are so close together that hundredths of a second
decide about different positions. This makes it difficult. The driver knows
the racetrack and the corners after, let me say, 30 minutes of driving
because he knows it from Formula 3 from Formula 2 and also from the
simulator. But to get the most out of the tyres, to get most out in the
Qualifying exactly at this lap, this needs experience. And you can tell the
driver whatever you want, he has to experience this. In which angle to go
over the kerbs, when to brake, how to turn in – these very special things.
Here in Zandvoort, for example, it depends where the wind is coming for
tomorrow, in the Qualifying, where some sand is coming in there, you have to
take attention of this. And this you can only get during the different years
and this is the experience which the rookie drivers miss.
Q: (Adam Cooper – Motorsport.com) For all three of you. We're still waiting
for the result of the tyre tender. Speaking theoretically, if there is a
change for 2025, what would be the positive for the sport? What would be the
challenges? Do you have concerns, for example on how the initial testing
would work?
GS: Yeah, for sure. If a new tyre supplier comes there is some difficulties
there. I think the main thing is technically, these tyres, I think they're
very technically challenging to make, and if you start with not having done
F1 for a long time, like one of the supplier hasn’t, how do you go through a
test programme, a very expensive test programme, because the only way to
test these tyres, really, is on a current F1 car, with the downforce we have
got right now. So I don't know how these problems have been addressed in the
tender or how they came back with, as I'm not privileged to see that and I
don't need to, because I know there are people qualified to do that looking
at it. So if it comes, there's, for sure, a lot of questions [to be] asked,
because for sure the big teams will volunteer to do this testing, but then
the other big teams will complain that the other ones get an advantage. So,
it's a spiral, which… I don't know, I mean, I think in my opinion, we wait
until it is decided who is getting the tyre contract for the next years and
then we see if you have got a problem or not. But I think it will not be
easy if there is a new one.
JV: My thoughts are that we will be supportive, whichever direction we
choose as a sport. If it does change, clearly it requires some amount of
testing that has to be done. And that will fall to the responsibility of
teams. I think Guenther summed it up perfectly, though. The technical
challenge to produce tyres for a modern day Formula 1 car is extraordinary.
It's not as easy as it was, perhaps 20 years ago. The downforce we're now
producing is orders of magnitude, almost, higher. But again, there's a whole
process behind it, FOM and the FIA, and in their process we trust. I'm sure
they're taking into account all the difficulties and the pros and the cons
both ways.
FT: First of all, it's good that there are two tyre suppliers who want to
provide us with tyres because this brings us additional money and brings FOM
in a good situation. From the technical side, I think a new supplier is
quite late now with this decision. But anyway, fortunately, that's not my
problem.
Q: (Christian Menath – Motorsport-magazine.com) A question to all three of
you. Since last year, we get this list from the FIA with all the updates,
aero updates, obviously. Until the summer break, there were huge differences
between the teams in terms of quantity of updates. Of course, quantity isn’t
quality. But for example, Haas had, I think 14 updates, AlphaTauri had 41
updates. Why do you think there are such big differences between the teams?
Is it just how you declare these things? Are there different approaches in
how you bring updates? What is your explanation for that?
FT: Our car was unfortunately not competitive enough at the beginning of the
season, therefore, we have to push very, very hard to catch up. And this is
the reason why we are bringing as many upgrades as possible just to get that
direction, because as you know, there are no tests anymore and to find the
correct technical line and way [forward] you have to put it on the car and
then you have to use maybe some races as well as a test to get, hopefully,
the right direction for the future.
GS: We just didn't find any performance and therefore we didn't put any
upgrades on, because just to put the upgrades on to show something is not
worthwhile, you know, you need to invest your money and therefore, we
continue along to develop our car this year. I think it all makes sense,
listening to Franz and myself here, why there is a difference, you know.
There is not, like, just nobody puts upgrades on just to put them on. There
is a reason behind. And if you have no performance upgrade… it should mean
performance. If you have no performance, no point to put an upgrade on.
JV: I think from our perspective, you hit the nail on the head before when
you say quantity isn't quality, necessarily. But in our particular
circumstance, in Montreal, which was a very large update, nearly every
surface of the car was changed. So, you basically can either invest in doing
something like that, which is an enormous change to the car, or you can do
small updates to floor edges to rear wings to front wings to other elements
of the car. So, I think just on the quantity, what you should hopefully be
more seeing is that different teams are moving forward or backwards relative
to each at other different rates. That's an indicator of exactly what
Guenther was talking about. When you have performance, you'll put that in
the form of an upgrade and put it on the car. And they can sometimes be big
sometimes be small, it’s the performance upgrade in terms of the delta
that's important.
Q: (Luke Smith – The Athletic) For all three of you. Picking up on the young
driver debate, and Franz, your point about the need for experienced drivers.
Are we at an era now where the pay driver past we've had an F1, where a
driver comes and says ‘here’s a wedge of money and I'll get a seat’, are we
further away than ever from that now, given the commercial boom that F1’s
enjoying, the cost cap and things like that, is there no longer so much of a
need for some teams to maybe go down that path?
FT: The pay driver is out. Because, first of all, most of the time, the pay
driver is not the fastest one and the FIA, with the Super licence, stopped
this. That means a driver can only come into Formula 1, if he is successful
in Formula 3, winning the championship in Formula 2, whatever, to get the
points he needs for the super licence. Nevertheless, it can be that the
driver gets the Super Licence is fast and brings a sponsor, this is the best
what can happen to the team. And it's always welcome.
GS: I think the other thing you have considered in addition to what Franz
says, which is 100% right is that in the old days, you had teams which were
financially not stable. Now we've got 10 very solid teams here, you know. So
nobody needs to rely on a pay driver right now, because Formula 1 is in such
a good spot with 10 teams, which are all stable. So it is more difficult to
get into. But as Franz said, the ideal situation is you have got a driver
which has got the Super Licence points because he is good, actually, and he
has got a sponsor behind him. And I think that is the direction in which
we’re going. If somebody has got the talent, so he can get the Super
Licence, and then he brings a sponsor that will bring us in. But I think we
are in a transition into that way. Just paying your way in, not being good,
it doesn't work, for two reasons: the teams don't want that, because as
explained again by Franz before, now the Constructors' Championship position
is more important than having a driver bringing you a little bit of money,
therefore you go on something you know, and you need to be good to get into
F1. And if you have got some sponsor you will have a chance. But if you're
not good enough, you will not get in here anymore.
JV: Yeah, summarised well by Franz and Guenther. In the Constructors'
Championship, the gaps between all three of us here on this sofa is, at
times, milliseconds. So you want to have drivers in the car that are – it's
a meritocracy – performing at their utmost. So this is not about just
bringing in a few million in order to satisfy the bottom line. The few
million comes from the Constructors' Championship by making a step relative
your peers. So that's been a positive change, I think, for the sport. Now,
also what you're seeing is individuals, including ourselves, we're investing
right down at the level of karting and paying for drivers to come up
through, but the point is the investment is there from teams right at the
junior levels in order to bring up and form a meritocracy, so that by time
they come to us they're experienced individuals. So it's not that rookie
drivers are dead, not by any stretch of the imagination, but I think this
concept of taking a few million to put someone in the car is not the way
that we can perform these days, otherwise you'll fall back.
PART TWO - TEAM REPRESENTATIVES
Enrico CARDILE (Ferrari), Paul MONAGHAN (Red Bull Racing), Tom McCULLOUGH
(Aston Martin)
Q: Tom, can we start with you, please? We've just had the summer break,
we've had a chance to reflect. What is your assessment of Aston Martin's
season at the halfway stage?
Tom McCULLOUGH: Reflection is the right word, we did a bit ourselves,
speaking with Fernando and Lance, prior to the break, and again, after the
break. Reflection on what we've achieved, really, looking at where we were
last year, how strong we have been the first half of this year to be
fighting for the podiums we've been fighting for, to be fighting solidly,
really, for P2 in the Constructors’ if we're being honest, with Red Bull a
bit of a level ahead at the moment. But, overall, strong first half of the
year and really looking forward to the second half of the season.
Q: Undoubtedly a huge shift from where you were last year, but there was a
change in the pecking order as we got closer to the summer break, with Aston
slipping back. How do you explain that?
TMcC: It's never one thing. And it's a relative game. Obviously, some teams
came back strong who maybe weren't as strong to start off with. We're
forever developing our car, bringing new parts of the car, which sometimes
just bring base overall performance, with no characteristic changes,
sometimes they bring a bit of a characteristic change. Sometimes you go to
tracks that suit your base package, more or less. We've actually changed the
sort of aggressiveness of development in certain areas. And you know,
sometimes you push things harder, not as hard. And I think the races just
prior to the shutdown, with introducing a few more parts, and the
correlation of those parts gave us a lot of confidence at the back end of
the first half of the season, and again, an evolution of those parts here
again this weekend, and going forwards, still trying to push quite hard
between now and the end of the year.
Q: But Tom, how did the drivers’ feedback about the car change during those
opening 12 races? Did it change as we got closer to races 11 and 12?
TMcC: I think with any race driver, when he looks at the time sheet and he's
near the front, he's happy, even when you look at your data and you think
that’s doesn’t look very nice. And sometimes when you're a bit further back,
and you're happy with the data, and the driver’s not happy because he’s
further back as well. So for us, it's about understanding the car on track
and understanding our weaknesses relative to other people and just trying to
carry on developing as hard as we can do.
Q: Now, the car is clearly good. But you mentioned the word weaknesses.
Where are the limitations?
TMcC: That depends track to track, you know, and also the car has evolved a
reasonable amount during the year. I think overall, at the start of the
year, I mean, our DRS switch and our efficiency was maybe a little bit not
as competitive. That's an area we have improved during the year. I think
prior to the shutdown and the parts we've got here, a lot of that has been
aimed at getting back to the level where we're pretty happy across the whole
speed range. So low-speed to high-speed corners, as well as good efficiency
and DRS switch. So really, you’re always trying to address your weaknesses.
They're all relative, you know. The drivers sometimes have been quite happy
with the car even though we're not as competitive as you want to be. But you
look at the data and you see where other teams are a bit stronger and you
think ‘right, well, is it the car, is it the tyres, the driver, the control
systems, the whole lot?’ It's very complicated and we just try to develop
the car as hard as we can do.
Q: And how does someone like Fernando, with all of his experience, help in a
situation like that?
TMcC: We looked at him from outside when he was at Alpine and then we
obviously you know him for years, having been in the paddock. You listen to
his radio comms. He's obviously at a very high level and he’s pretty
impressive as a driver. Actually, working with him is even double that
nearly you know. He's so motivated. He's so hard working, his preparation,
his questions. He knows to ask the right questions too. I often say the
drivers are one of the best sensors in the car. And you know, he's
definitely one of those. You've got all your data, you're trying to
correlate, develop, work hard understand the very complex world that we live
in, if you think about the tyres, the aerodynamics, everything else that's
going on, and he has an ability to really, really understand that and to
help you. He helps you on the big picture stuff, whether you're developing a
car, race weekend execution, strategy… The smaller stuff is important too,
you know, you need to be doing this to get good pit stops. You need to be
this for a start, you know. His work ethic is second to none. We're really
enjoying working with him. Even when we haven't been as competitive, he's
been super supportive and strong, and he knows that now he can still do very
well in this championship.
Q: Did you get any texts from him while you're on holiday?
TMcC: I turned my phone off and spent two weeks on the beach.
Q: The weekend has started well for you. How confident are you of continuing
that?
TMcC: You say it started well, but it wasn't a straightforward session for
us. Obviously, we had a few issues in the garage. We didn't get Lance out at
all to do a timed lap. So, on that side of the garage, it was pretty poor.
Even for Fernando, we had a few issues. We managed to get through the aero
test programme, the rakes, the bits and bobs we wanted to do. But we run
quite late on track, which always helps you a bit with track evolution. But
yeah, early days. I think recoverable for Free Practice 2, that's the key.
We understand the issue with Lance's power unit and it had to come off the
chassis and it's already back on the car. And I'm hoping for more
straightforward Free Practice 2.
Q: Alright. Best of luck for the rest of the weekend. Paul, coming to you
now. What a season you guys are having. A record 12 wins already with more
records set to tumble. What is it about the RB 19 that's proved so
effective?
Paul MONAGHAN: It's lap time would be the obvious thing to say, wouldn't it?
We're in a very privileged position and it's a testament to all the hard
work that's gone in, many hundreds of people in Milton Keynes, that its
weaknesses are less than those of our competitors, it would seem. We're
blessed with two very good drivers. And one of them, obviously, his
confidence is sky high. He's pretty resolute. And I guess you could say that
our ducks are lined up in a row presently. And we've been a little bit
fortunate perhaps in the first half of the season. Occasionally, we didn't
get the best out of ourselves, but it was still enough that we could get
home. So it's, yes, a privileged season to enjoy, isn't it?
Q: Tell us a little bit more about the car? What is its greatest strength?
PM: I would say everything with it. If you look, we're blessed with a very
strong engine, two very good drivers. You were asking Tom what the
weaknesses of their car are and our probably are similar characteristics, we
just do it with a slightly quicker lap time. And you chip away and chip away
and try… There's no complacency. It's not as if we're resting on our laurels
or anything like that. We’ve still got 10 races to go, 500 points in the
Constructors Championship. But ultimately, we're blessed with a very
competent car, different circuits, different downforce levels, different
speed ranges – Monaco to Spa. It’s weaknesses are not such that we can go to
one track thinking we might get a win and other tracks we're going to
struggle. We don't fear them as such.
Q: You've won so many races and championships with Red Bull. Is this the
best car you've ever had in your time at the team?
PM: I've not really made that comparison, actually. You tend to deal with
the immediacy of this and I think maybe if we get to the end of the season,
and we've remained as successful, then maybe you look back and think ‘wow,
that was really quite something’. But when you're in it, you don't look at
it as such. Each race, they come up on fairly quick succession, we've got
one next weekend haven't we, and maybe it's an avoiding complacency,
certainly there's no discussion in the team as to… this one's a really good
one, it's better than that one. None of that happens. We're in the fight.
We're in the thick of it. It'll be a challenge again this weekend and next
weekend. So it's not a moment to look back and think ‘that was a good one or
not such a good one. Did we do well? Did we make fewer mistakes?’ It's not a
point for consideration presently.
Q: How much does this unbeaten record weigh on your shoulders and everyone
in the team?
PM: Personally not, because… Someone reminded me before this press
conference, ‘oh, you're coming up on Seb’s nine in a row.’ Hadn't even
thought about it until the chap mentioned it. Because we're in the
competitive environment and you're dealing with short-term problems of P1
session, what do we do for P2, P3. How are we going to approach qualifying?
What's the weather like? And it would be wrong of us to rest on what we've
achieved so far. We want to keep going. And the only way to do that is to
treat each race as an individual competition and we've got to push ourselves
to get the most out of ourselves the car, the drivers, if we're going to
stay ahead of these guys.
Q: Now, Max Verstappen, you've just said that his confidence is sky high.
How has he improved from last year?
PM: I think his all-round assuredness is one of his greatest strengths. He
can have a bad session, bounces back the next session and he's right on it.
He doesn't make many mistakes, does he? That's a pretty good indication of
his level of self-confidence. I think his self-belief, his belief in the car
and the team is very strong and he’s a fabulous team player. And aren't we
lucky to have him.
Q: On the other side of the garage, Checo Pérez, how do you explain his
fluctuations in form this year?
PM: The confidence between drivers will ebb and flow. You see it in other
teams and you'll see it in our one and don't forget that Checo won in
Azerbaijan, didn't he? He stuck it on pole in Miami and then the confidence
flowed to Max in the race. So it will bounce between the two. Checo has
never been down in the dumps after a race. He might reflect upon it,
thinking it wasn't his best race. That's within his right to do so. But he
comes back the following race weekend, he's confident, he's chirpy and he's
a wonderful element within our team and we will support him with everything
we've got.
Q: Does he want something different from the car to Max? Is that where
sometimes he might have an issue?
PM: Drivers, in my experience, always want subtle changes or subtle
differences across the garage and that's nothing unusual. He's quite close
to Max with this car in terms of his set-up preferences and his choices. It
makes it a little bit easier going forward with this one. His approach to it
is very similar to Max, the differences are so small and with this car I'd
say it's perhaps less than 2021 car. So no, in answer to your question, is
it broadly different? No, they're very close.
Q: Enrico, welcome to the FIA press conference, great to have you join us.
For people who don't know, perhaps you could just maybe introduce yourself
and tell us about your time in Maranello? How long have you been at Ferrari?
Enrico CARDILE: So, I'm an aerospace engineer, I joined Ferrari in 2005 on
the sports car division working on performance. At the very beginning that
was [unclear] management and then from there I did other performance. In
2016, I joined finally the Scuderia as Head of Aero development and from
there I progressed up to now.
Q: And I've asked the other two guys on the sofa about the opening 12 races.
So can we talk about the first half of the season? What areas of performance
have you been pleased with? And where do you feel there's more work to do?
EC: We think that our main weakness is on the aero characteristics of the
car, so all the focus since T1 [pre-season testing in Bahrain] when it has
been pretty clear that we were not at the level we expected to be, the
weakness was coming from there. So all the focus, all the efforts has been
since T1 on improving the aero characteristics of the car.
Q: And how does that manifest itself, show itself in terms of on track? What
did the drivers say about the car?
EC: We have been lucky because the comments of the driver has been always
aligned between sim and track and aligned with the data we gathered from the
car. So we can see what we are complaining about. We progressed a bit
through the development of this car, improving some characteristics of the
car, but the pace we are developing the car is obviously not satisfactory,
because we are still far from the blue guys there.
Q: And are you going to continue to develop the car this year or is the
focus in Maranello already on 2024?
EC: This year has been crucial for us, to put a lot of effort on this year’s
car, to better understand from where the weaknesses were coming, and how to
do a better job. So we kept developing the car in the wind tunnel since the
summer break. We will bring some updates in the next races but now [in the]
wind tunnel we are fully focused on next year’s car.
Q: Now on the topic of next year's car, Fred Vasseur said in a media call on
Tuesday that next year's car will be very different. What can you tell us
about it?
EC: Not a lot, but it will be very different, because developing this year’s
car we realised that some architectural choices we did were not right. It
was constraining the development too much. From there next year’s car will
not be an evolution of this year’s car like this year’s car has been
compared to last year’s car, but it will be a brand new car – different
chassis with different design, different rear end to allow our aero
[department] to better develop the car to achieve their targets.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Christian Menath – Motorsport-magazin.com) First of all, to Enrico, and
probably for the other two as well. You mentioned the pace of development at
Ferrari. Since last year, we get a list from the FIA with development parts
on the aero side and for the second time in a row, Ferrari was quite far at
the end when you just look at the number of updates, I think you had like 14
or 15 until the summer break. The average was like 25. I think Red Bull and
Aston Martin had like 25. Do you have an explanation for that, why Ferrari
has less updates than the other teams? And to the other two, do you have an
explanation why there are so many so big differences between all the teams’
number of updates?
EC: I don't know how you're measuring the number of updates. I didn't count
honestly what these guys brought on track. I know what they brought but I
never counted them. This year, we brought a lot of stuff and the stuff has
been brought also one close to the other, because we revamped completely the
car in Spain. We brought a completely new floor in Miami, we revamped
completely the car in Spain, we brought another complete floor in UK. So
that is our situation. This year we pushed much more than last year.
PM: My initial thoughts, to answer your question, is the number of changes
is not indicative of the magnitude of change. So we may alter a floor edge
wing and deploy a… You'll see a change for it, but it doesn't mean to say
that it's large in its magnitude. The aerodynamic effect is between
ourselves. The development race is about your lap time and a qualifying car
and a race car and where you finish on Sunday, not necessarily the number
(of updates) that we bring so I don't think it's as perhaps as indicative as
your suggestion at the moment.
TMcC: Yeah, I really just carry on from what these two gents have said. I
think sometimes, actually, the small parts which are a part of another
larger part can be quite dominant as well for the performance and
ultimately, as Paul was just saying, we're just here to make the cars go as
fast as we can do.
Q: (Scott Mitchell-Malm – The Race) Tom, you were talking earlier about the
various factors that obviously go into fluctuating performance and place in
the pecking order. There was a lot of speculation over the summer break that
one of the factors for Aston Martin could have been around the front wing
and flexibility and some potential changes in the middle of that first half
of the season. Is there any truth to that? What can you say about that
suggestion?
TMcC: Yeah, we're always developing the car. We did change the front wing
philosophy a little bit from the start of the year, during the year. But
that's just part of our constant evolution and development of the car. So
no, no big characteristic changes there from our side.
Q: (Adam Cooper – Motorsport.com) The FIA has been hiring extra technical
auditors to work with Dominic Harlow. Just wondering what you think of that
process of FIA people turning up announced and having a look around? Do you
think it works? Does it give you confidence that the FIA are on the case in
terms of the cost cap and so on?
PM: That was foolish to pick up the microphone, wasn't it! What the FIA do
within other teams I cannot comment upon. It is down to us to demonstrate
our legality. By the nature of the current regulations, even going back to
about 2010 when the aerodynamic testing restriction first came in, it
requires the FIA to perform some sort of audit in order to establish that we
are legal, so it's gone on for quite some time. Now it's more broad in its
scope of investigation, we have this sort of incremental list of parts we
have to prove we were observing. We are questioned on cost cap, we are
questioned on all sorts of things and as I say, the only way to prove
ourselves legal is for the visit. It can be random, it can be planned. I
don’t suppose anybody's got anything to hide so we shouldn't fear it. It's a
bit inconvenient but that's occasionally life, isn't it?
TMcC: Yeah, Dominic and his team… We've known Dominic for many years and
some of his chaps as well and they come in and do their job and the
governance is so important, whether it's the financial side, the technical
side and you know, nothing to hide so it's part of the job.
EC: At Ferrari we are working with the FIA to be compliant with all the
regs. And we trust FIA on their checks. Nothing to add.
Q: (Ed Spencer – Total-motorsport.com) Paul and Tom, Enrico touched upon the
fact that now full focus is on 2024 and that it's going to be a completely
different car for Ferrari. When will you start focusing on 2024 and will it
be an evolution of this year’s car or will it be a blank canvas?
PM: The work on 2024 is well underway. I suppose in the privileged position
we find ourselves in, to say it's an evolution is probably a logical
conclusion. And there is still some effort in 2023 and that will go on for a
little while. Don’t forget, there are lessons we can learn with the current
car that will feed into next year. It would be foolish not to take such
opportunities and the further we go into the flyaway races that lie ahead of
us, the more emphasis will be placed on 2024 car. And at some point, the
more and more of the current people that support us through the race
weekends will spend more time on ‘24 as needs be. So that's roughly where we
are at the moment.
TMcC: Pretty much the same, to be honest. There are some parts… obviously
the ‘24 car, you have to start pretty early. The understanding of our
philosophy of car really is 18 months old really and continuing, of course,
you're always tuning your philosophy to try to be as competitive as
possible. There are lessons that we're learning, developing the ‘24 car that
we can transfer to the ‘23 car. Obviously, what we see at the track is
always weeks, months behind the development side. But we're still trying to
develop the car reasonably hard this year, with some parts coming. We're
still able to transfer some of the learning from the ‘24 to this year's car.
And there's still a lot of races still to go this year.
Q: (Marijn Abbenhuijs – AD Sportwereld) Mr Monaghan, you yourself used to
work for McLaren during the ‘90s and you might have been able to witness the
impact that Ayrton Senna was making back then. Now do you think that the
mania that Max Verstappen is causing, especially over here in the
Netherlands, is comparable with the enthusiasm for Senna back then?
PM: Gosh, thank you for reminding me how old I am! I was a mere boy at
McLaren at that point so I didn't really enjoy the trackside euphoria around
him. Certainly he had a massive presence whenever he visited the factory. So
I can't really give you the comparison of trackside then to trackside now.
I've been blessed to work with some fabulous drivers in the time and all of
them are talented people, different individuals. The euphoria around Max, I
see it here with 130,000 people with orange flares and then you can't see
anything. So I guess time has changed and people change… and I don't really
know how to answer your question to be perfectly honest. I think we should
enjoy the sporting icons and relish their presence on the grid.
Q: (David Croft – Sky Sports F1) Enrico, help us out a little bit here.
Carlos Sainz sat here yesterday and said that the car we knew wasn't great
at the start of the season and we've been scratching our head a lot,
race-by-race, and we're not quite sure whether we're going to have a good
weekend or a bad weekend. And the more we studied the data, the more
confused we seem to get. I'm paraphrasing, but that was the impression he
gave. So tell us what's going on at Ferrari? Do you understand this car? Do
you understand what's going wrong? And is there a way that you can find to
make it better for the season? Or are you just kind of giving up hope a
little bit?
EC: For us, it is crystal clear what we did wrong with the car. Which are
the weaknesses is clear. It’s not a matter of understanding what we should
do. Now, for the future, it’s a matter of delivering a good product which
will cope with the targets we have. So, we are not in nowhere land. We know
what we have to do. It’s a matter of doing. It’s a matter of finding the
right contents of the car, the right architecture or the car to achieve the
target. The other point is this car is consistent during the race weekend in
terms of behaviour, but sometimes this behaviour changes from track to
track. In Hungary, we had a difficult time, in Belgium the performance was
back. So sometimes this happens but then during the weekend if the car is
consistent we can work on it. On this track we dedicated FP1 to specific
tests, to better tune our tool set, to better operate the car this year and
to have data to improve the behaviour of the car next year. But I disagree
with Carlos virtually. |