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TEAM REPRESENTATIVES
Bruno FAMIN (Alpine), Mike KRACK (Aston Martin), Alessandro ALUNNI BRAVI
(Alfa Romeo), Christian HORNER (Red Bull Racing)
Q: Bruno, if we could start with you please. News has just come through of
some management changes at Alpine. Perhaps you could talk us through what’s
going on?
Bruno FAMIN: Yes, good afternoon everyone. At Alpine we have a fascinating
project, Alpine as a brand. Two weeks we launched phase two of that project
with a very ambitious plan for new road cars, for expansion and so on. What
is really super-interesting for all of us is that project is based on
motorsport, motorsport programmes. The key one, of course, is Formula One,
not only but that’s it. It’s really a great challenge to be part of this
project. So, after the phase two of the brand, we are going to the phase two
of the Formula 1 project. We have ambition as well, and we have decided to
make some changes in order to go faster in reaching the level of performance
we are aiming for.
Q: Can you explain the decision to part ways with, first of all, Otmar
Szafnauer?
BF: I think with Otmar and with Alan – it’s the same with Alan Permane, it’s
the same that means they are great people, we really thank them for all what
they brought to the team, for a very long time for Alan, 34 years in Enstone.
More recently with Otmar but he secured the fourth place on the Championship
last year which was a good achievement, but we were not on the same line on
how… on the timeline to recover the level… or to reach the level of
performance we are aiming for. Mutually we agreed to split our ways, and
that’s it.
Q: And you have taken over the interim role but for a permanent team
principal, are you going to promote from within, or are you going to promote
from elsewhere.
BF: I’ve just been appointed two weeks ago as a vice president, motorsport
at Alpine. Of course, we have been discussing that topic with the top
management for weeks and now I will really assess with the whole teams, what
is the real situation and what will be the plan then. I will take the
necessary time to do this assessment and we will decide later on.
Q: Can we get your assessment of the season so far for the team?
BF: The season so far, the season do not match our expectation, clearly. We
were fourth last year, we know that the top three is very strong, but we
were aiming to keep that fourth place and maybe fight a little bit for the
third. We are not where we wanted and we work hard with all the teams, with
the Enstone guys, with the Viry-Châtillon guys in order to extract the best
possible performance of our car.
Q: Mike, if I could come to you now please…
Mike KRACK: No such big changes!
Q: After such a strong start to the season, six podiums in eight races your
competitiveness has dropped away in the last three, how do you explain it?
MK: We have made developments to the car lately and it is true what you say,
we have dropped. We have dropped in the pecking order. We have lost ground a
little bit to the fastest cars but also, we have seen that other competitor
cars have slipped in-between and that made us drop back slightly. Now, we
have gone through a big cycle of analysis over the last races because you
have different tracks that we have now in terms of characteristics. We had
the Hungaroring, we had Silverstone, we had Barcelona than also the outlier
in Canada where we were very competitive, and it takes you a little bit of
time to understand all of that. To understand what’s going on and understand
what problems you have and what you might have introduced and might not have
introduced, so we’re quite confident that we’ve found what the main problems
are. Now it is about making the correct changes to get them solved.
Q: You know what the next question is: what conclusions did you reach? What
are the problems?
MK: Well, you know, when you develop your car… these cars are very complex.
So, it is not any more than you just add downforce, downforce, downforce,
downforce. Very often you introduce characteristic changes on your car, or
you create other effects – and maybe this is what happened. Again, we have
to now iron-out these issues that we have introduced. The next question will
be when? As quick as possible.
Q: Do you agree with Fernando Alonso’s assessment that it is now the
fifth-fastest car in Formula 1.
MK: Yes.
Q: OK. And do you think you can pull it back to the second-fastest car in
the second half of the season?
MK: Yeah. I mean under normal circumstances, you would say to gain three
positions in such a field, over the short time of 11 events, it’s very hard
and very ambitious. On the other hand, the gaps are very small. We have seen
how much we have lost, and I think the most important is to recover that and
try to recover a little bit more.
Q: Alessandro, and incredible Qualifying performance by Alfa Romeo in
Hungary. First time you’ve had both drivers in Q3 this season. How much of a
boost was it for the team?
Alessandro ALUNNI BRAVI: Of course, it was a boost, but as I said on
Saturday, immediately after the Qualifying session, we need to complete our
work during the race. It doesn’t matter to be fast in qualifying, and then
to not score points in the race. So, we didn’t execute the race as it was
necessary to do, and we know we cannot afford to miss such kind of
opportunities. Our car this year is not consistently performing at that
level, so when we have an opportunity like that, we need to execute
perfectly the race. This was not the case. Of course, we have analysed what
happened. We had, I would say, a brake system problem on Zhou’s car – so it
was not the drivers’ fault. This for me is important. It was some elements
that we didn’t fix correctly on the car, so the start… it was a problem with
the start, and this jeopardised also the race of Valtteri because he was
blocked, and he lost three positions at the first corner and he was not
positioned the car in the right way for the second corner and the third
corner. So, we place ourselves in P12 and P18 after three corners, and of
course this completely destroyed our race. This is a good learning from the
team. The weekend finished after the chequered flag on Sunday, not after the
Qualifying session. So, it was a good boost, but we need to have a proper
weekend and to score points.
Q: Can we look at the positives of last weekend though? Can you explain to
us why the car was so effective over one lap?
AAB: We have seen this during the Championship so far, that in a
low-efficiency track, our car is performing much better. When the level of
grip is higher and the hot temperature, we are able to extract more
performance from the car. All those elements were there in Budapest, and
this has allowed us to enter into Q3. There was also the Alternative Tyre
Allocation during that weekend that introduced an element of jeopardy, of
course. And we have prepared all the weekend to be focussed and ready in Q1.
For instance, in FP3, we have been using the Hard tyres compound. We are the
only team, together with Stroll and the AlphaTauri, to have the Hard tyres
in FP3, and I think that we were ready in the Q1 to get out the most of our
car, and this helped the drivers in terms of confidence and ourselves to
then access Q2. And then we build up on this all the Qualifying session. So,
there were these elements that played a role for our performance.
Q: The driver silly season. Can we talk about that now. It is in full-swing.
We know that Valtteri has a contract for next year. When can we expect news
about who’s going to be driving your other car?
AAB: Of course, we always said that stability for us is important. We are a
team that is in a transformation process, and we try to be as much stable as
possible in all areas. Of course, we are looking for improvement and
opportunities. There will be time after the summer shutdown to sit down with
Zhou and look at what will be the best solution for both of us. Our target
is to keep both drivers in our team next year but, of course, there must be
all the elements in place to have a win-win situation.
Q: Christian, thank you for waiting. Now, what a season it has been for Red
Bull Racing. 11 races, 11 wins, breaking a 35-year-old record in the
process. Did you take time to pause and celebrate this week?
Christian HORNER: Not really. I mean, we go the whole team together,
obviously as we usually do after a race on a Monday, and it was a very
special debrief. I mean, to have achieved that kind of milestone, to have
won all 11 races this year, 12 in a row since Abu Dhabi last year. 19 out of
the last 20, is frankly something unprecedented, and I think that it’s just
testimony to the hard work, the effort, the commitment that goes on behind
the scenes. Because it’s not so much what you see trackside, it’s what you
see behind the scenes, in the factory, throughout all the different
departments, each having to go that extra yard. And all the men and women
back in Milton Keynes are doing an outstanding job and to have achieved this
35-year record, the first time since 1988, is something that we’re all
incredibly proud of.
Q: Tell us a little bit more about what’s going on behind the scenes. As the
leader of the group, how different are the challenges for you during a
season like this?
CH: The challenges are always different because, when you’re the hunter,
you’ve got everybody focussed on the target ahead of you; when you suddenly
become the hunted, it’s a different type of pressure. And, of course, we
have numerous approaches from all these guys, chasing all our staff,
sponsors, you name it. And I think getting there is one thing, staying there
is another. But I think the spirit, the culture that we have within the team
is something that we’ve got great strength in depth and have enjoyed great
continuity over a long period of time, which again is so important in this
business.
Q: Is it difficult to maintain the intensity levels?
CH: I don't think so. I think we’re very much taking it one race at a time,
one session at a time. And I think you have to focus like that. And, you
know, nobody's allowing their mind to drift. And I think that it’s a long,
long championship and I think there’s a lot going on behind the scenes with
Red Bull Powertrains, as that's gearing up as well in the background in
Milton Keynes, with 2026 not being all that far away now. So, plenty to keep
people focused on.
Q: We saw a very aggressive race to third place from Checo in Hungary. How
much of a relief was that for you?
CH: I thought Checo did a great job on Sunday. He got voted Driver of the
Day and I thought some of his overtaking moves were outstanding. And I think
for him that was a big, big confidence boost. You know, to go from ninth on
the grid, particularly in Budapest, to the podium, it was a big drive from
him. And I think that he did it the hard way. He didn't benefit through
strategy or Safety Cars or anything along those lines. And I think that will
hopefully unlock the confidence he's been lacking on a Saturday, that we've
seen in abundance on a Sunday. So hopefully that will have fired him up for
this weekend.
Q: And how big a part have you played in his return to form?
CH: Well, look, I think it's always a team effort. I think every driver is
different. Some need an arm around the shoulder, some need a kick up the
butt. You know, Checo is definitely the arm around the shoulder type of
character. And I think that we're just doing our best to support him as a
team, you know, to give him the help to achieve what we know he's capable
of.
Q: And looking at the wider Red Bull family, can you give us your thoughts
on Daniel Ricciardo’s performance last weekend? He qualified 13th, finished
13th.
CH: I thought in very difficult circumstances for him, getting dropped in
the car he'd never sat in before, I thought he did very, very well. I
thought, you know, to qualify, and in the top 13. He was a little unlucky at
the start of the race, but then when you look at his pace, his race pace,
particularly that long run on the medium tyre in the second half the race,
his pace was extremely good. And I thought for a comeback drive in difficult
circumstances. He actually acquitted himself very, very well.
Q: Did he exceed your expectations?
Ch: I think he met it. I mean, seeing what he did at Silverstone the
previous Tuesday in the tyre test, you know, I think after that,
expectations changed. And, yeah, I think he met all expectations. What it's
brought to AlphaTauri is a huge amount of experience and possibly some
direction, obviously with the experience that he brings as a Grand Prix
winner.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Jon Noble – Motorsport.com) Bruno, you said that Otmar and Alan and
yourselves couldn't agree on the timeline for recovery. How far apart were
your two timelines? And what are you going to do to hit your timeline that
they couldn't achieve to hit theirs?
BF: I think we are not talking about figures. I think we have a different
view of the way of doing it and, of course, it’s true also in terms of
timeline, but I think we are not exactly the same in doing the things.
Q: (Scott Mitchell-Malm – The Race) Another question to Bruno. The overhauls
and changes at the top of the team go back before the Alpine rebrand, it
happened when it was operating as the Renault team as well. So since you've
been there, why do you think this level of upheaval or dysfunction has
existed? And why will it be different now? How will it be run differently
now to avoid that?
BF: What is important to us is the project. I think we have a clear project,
a clear objective and it's not only the Formula 1 team that has a strategy,
it’s the full brand, and both are totally linked. I'm confident that we will
make it work. I don't know what happened before. I think, as I said, we are
now launching phase two of the Alpine project, phase one started in ‘21. We
improved a lot of things in Enstone and in Viry, we are moving the team
forward and we will continue doing that.
Q: (David Croft – Sky Sports F1) Bruno, a question to you, or a three-part
question. Two weeks into the job, was it your decision to sack Otmar and
Alan Permane? Or was that orders from on high that you were following? What
exactly are your expectations for the team at Enstone? And how realistic are
they, given that from the F1 Commission meeting this morning, we know that
your engine is so down on power that you're looking for a performance boost
when the engines are frozen?
BF: So, we decided together with Alan and Otmar to split our ways. It's a
mutual agreement, first. So, on maybe the last one, because I don't remember
the middle one…
Q: (David Croft – Sky Sports F1) What are your expectations?
BF: The expectations. This one, I got it. The expectations are to be able to
fight for wins and for titles as soon as possible. Of course, the way is
going to be a bit long, but the expectations are those ones. The top teams
are super strong. Everybody has more or less the same objective, and we know
it's going to be difficult, but our expectations are those ones, really to
fight for titles. And then that means for wins and then we are going to be
focused on that.
Q: (David Croft – Sky Sports F1) And how can you do that with the engine as
it currently is?
BF: The engine is… What is the expression you said? So down? Yeah, I don't
think it's so down, it's down, it's not the best engine of the grid, for
sure. We made huge steps between ‘21 and ‘22. But it's still not the best
engine and the FIA put the topic on the table, because I understand there
was a kind of agreement when the engine freeze was decided, and the FIA put
the topic on the table and that’s it. I don't think the engine, the
powertrain is so down, that we cannot improve the package. In fact, the goal
is really to improve our package: the chassis, the engine, which is a bit
difficult in the present time, for sure, but the integration can always be
improved and this is what we're going to do.
Q: Bruno. How involved in the reshuffle has Luca de Meo been?
BF: The reshuffle of the team it's a decision of the top management of
course. So it's not something which has been decided from one day to another
and we have been talking for a week. And it’s not because I have been
appointed, two weeks ago, Vice President Motosport that I started working
two weeks ago. And it's already quite a long story and I'm working on it
with the top management.
Q: (Luke Smith – The Athletic) Bruno, I know you said you're moving on to
phase two of your plans now, but in the last eight days, you've lost Otmar
Szafnauer, Pat Fry to Williams, Alan Permane, Laurent Rossi, as well, as
CEO. It’s a big, big change. So what kind of steps can be taken to ensure
there's a strong leadership moving forward, because there seems to be a
state of flux at the moment. And how much has this set back the 100-race
plan for Alpine.
BF: What is happening is the second stage of the Alpine rocket, if I may
say. It's not going backwards, it’s moving forwards. Of course, it's a lot
of change. But it's an opportunity also, to have a new foundation, or to
consolidate the foundation and to go farther and faster. The key objective
is the one I mentioned recently: we need to win, we aim for winning races
and championships as soon as possible. We need to constantly improve our
cars, the full package, from race to race, from year to year. And we know
that it's not easy. We know that the change of regulation is generally a
good milestone for changing the ranking. And I think it's quite a reasonable
target, but it will not be a step, it's improving constantly up to that.
Q: (Christian Nimmervoll – Motorsport.com) Christian, Daniel Ricciardo
hasn't made a secret of the fact that he's taking a step back to AlphaTauri
because he's hoping to get back to Red Bull Racing. In case there was a
vacancy until the end of ‘24 for whatever reason, be it Checo’s performance,
or him getting sick or whatever. Is Daniel next in line, or would you also
consider looking elsewhere with the likes of Nico Hülkenberg, for example?
CH: Well, obviously, the reason that Daniel was brought back into the seat
is not because he has long term aspirations to be an AlphaTauri driver for
the next five years. You know, he sees it as the quickest route to getting
back into a competitive seat. And I think that, you know, clearly his
objectives are on a 2025 Red Bull Racing seat when we have obviously a
vacancy. Now, Daniel has an opportunity between now and the end of the year
to demonstrate that he hasn't lost any of his form. And then obviously, a
decision will be made as to whether he remains in that seat for a further 12
months. But it would, you know, obviously be very clear that AlphaTauri
drivers and Toro Rosso before that drivers have been placed there to develop
them as potential Red Bull Racing candidates and Daniel's very aware of
that, and that's his objective, but that wouldn't be before 2025.
Q: (Adam Cooper – Motorsport.com) Bruno, a couple of years ago when Laurent
was looking for a new team principal, I think he basically knocked on the
doors of all the team bosses and said ‘would you like to come work for us?
One of the people that we assume he spoke to was Mattia Binotto. He's now
available and given his experience, his knowledge of the power unit side of
things, is he a guy that would be on your list?
BF: Well, we’re not at that stage. I think I'm going to, with all my direct
reports, assess what is the situation, think about what are the priorities
in Enstone, to consolidate the things and we will define if we need a new
structure or not and when that will be done, we will see.
Q: (Claire Cottingham – Racefans.net) A completely different question, for
Mike and Christian, on the F1 Commission. I just wondered why it was decided
against [banning tyre blankets] for 2024 despite Pirelli saying they were
happy with how the progression was going ahead.
MK: At the end of the day, I think there was a long discussion where all the
stakeholders went through the pros and cons. And at the end all of us
decided that we need a bit more development on them and postponed by one
year.
CH: Your question is nearly as sharp as Tom’s suit here. But at some point…
yeah, very ambitious in this weather, I mean mate, have you seen the weather
outside?
Q: It's not raining in here, though.
CH: OK. But going for the desert suit in Spa is always very brave. I think
that it's just too early in the process, Pirelli. We did a test recently
with Pirelli. I think they’ve made good progress but I think there was a
collective decision that it's not quite ready for 2024.
Q: (Ian Parkes - New York Times) Question initially to you Bruno: you use
the term ‘mutual agreement’. That seems very hard to believe that two people
of the standing of Otmar and Alan would suddenly put their hands up and say
‘yeah, you know what, we'll leave’ particularly when we spoke to Otmar on
Sunday. He seemed very confident at that particular point after the
Hungarian Grand Prix, that he was going to be allowed to continue with the
100-race plan. So what has happened between Sunday evening and today for
this to all of a sudden kick off and those two guys to go? And to Mike and
Christian, can you just give us your thoughts on F1 losing two very well
known and popular characters in Otmar and Alan?
BF: We have been discussing for a while about what we needed to do on the
timeline for the evolution we required in Alpine F1 teams and we discussed,
we are confident it can make it. On that one stage you realise that we are
not on the same paths and then we decide to split ways.
CH: Yeah, well firstly it's very much Alpine business and nothing to do with
us, but as far as the individuals are concerned, Otmar has obviously been
around for a little while and he's always been very straightforward to deal
with and had good knowledge of the business. I think for Alan, or Bat as I
think he's better known in the pit lane, 34 years in any job is a truly
remarkable achievement. I think to go from Benetton to Renault to whatever…
Lotus, back to Renault to Alpine, he's been one of the mainstays there. And
obviously been there through the World Championship periods of Michael
Schumacher and Fernando Alonso. So a hugely competent guy. I doubt he's
going to be unemployed for too long. But just hats off to what he's done
with that team, particularly, one has to look at the difficult periods when
they were looking at insolvency and the issues with shareholders and the
transfer for all the team. That's when the team needs clear guidance and
leadership and mainstays and I was particularly impressed at that point in
time that he was a solid pillar. So best of luck for him for the future.
MK: Yeah, I can only echo what Christian said. Obviously, the decision that
Alpine has taken we have to respect. Certainly we lose two respected
personalities in the paddock. I don't think either that we will have lost
them. Maybe it's just a short break.
Q: (Matt Kew – Autosport) Alessandro, despite the greater investment for
this year, as you said the car has not been consistent. The CEO of Audi who
was sat there a year ago and announced the F1 programme has been replaced.
There's reports that the engine programming is behind. So with all that in
mind, can you please give us an update on the state of the 2026 project,
please?
AAB: First of all, I'm happy to hear that the Audi project is behind the
shadow. We don't have this kind of information and it’s always difficult
from the external people to understand what is the status of development of
such an important programme like a new PU manufacturer entering to Formula
1. So concerning our programme, the programme is on the right route. We are
working hard to develop the team in these next two seasons. We know that
there are constraints linked also to the financial regulations but we are
with Andreas Seidel addressing all our weaknesses and try to seek all the
best opportunities in the market to bring quality into our team and to
develop our facilities. So there is no change for us, nor for Audi. Audi
project is based not on a single individual but is a project for all the
company that has been, I would say, welcome at any level. And I think that
there is no change. We work as a team, all together, to be ready for 2026.
This doesn't mean that the challenge is easy. We have such a strong
competitor, we need to be really humble and to work on a daily basis at our
best because the competition is extremely high for everybody, and especially
in the PU manufacturer side, I think that the competition in 2026 will be
really, really strong. So we just need to be focused on our job and nothing
change with the departure of Mr Duesmann.
Q: (Rodrigo Franca - Car magazine, Brazi) Christian, you mentioned 1988; I
imagine that you at that time would be dreaming of being a racing car driver
and would you imagine beating that record, 35 years after that? And
comparing McLaren ‘88 to Red Bull this year, what do you see that’s
different, that is in common? And would you have Ayrton Senna and Alain
Prost in your team as a team principal?
CH: Okay, there's a few questions in there. Look, first of all, 1988 I was
still in short trousers but watching Formula 1 as a fan, and to see Alain
Prost and Ayrton Senna do what they did that year and I think it was only in
Monza with a backmarker that prevented them from a clean sweep and it was a
remarkable, remarkable performance. And to imagine that that record has
lasted 35 years, that even with the dominance we've seen in recent years,
that it's stood the test of time shows what a remarkable achievement it was,
and an iconic team at that point. Ron Dennis was a very, very strong leader
and team leader who I always had a huge amount of respect for, so to think
that we've managed to finally exceed that is hugely gratifying. And I think
that there's a couple of common partners that were involved at that point in
time as well, one being Honda, who obviously had provided the engine at that
time, would have been V10s or turbo-powered engines at that point in time.
And for them to have done the same for us and provided the power units which
achieve these results is truly impressive and should be recognised in their
contribution. Obviously, TAG Heuer were there with McLaren and they're now
there with ourselves. And in terms of the drivers, it's so difficult to
compare drivers from different generations but Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost,
both legends of the sport and I think Max is rapidly joining that group, so
always difficult to compare different generations.
Q: Were you a Senna or a Prost fan back then?
CH: I was very much in the Nigel Mansell camp, our Nige. It was great
racing. Nigel was handicapped that year with an uncompetitive car
unfortunately, but yeah, it's an incredible thing.
Would I have what? Senna and Prost?
CH: Well, they got pretty sparky between the two of them. And two alphas is
always a difficult one to manage, so it was nice to watch that one from the
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