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Great comeback, pity about the defence

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By Boris Mellor March 30 2008
In the 110 minutes that Arsenal has been without Bacary Sagna they have conceded four goals. It seems to me that the first half of the Bolton game was a continuation of the Chelsea game, the defence still in a shambles. It all goes to demonstrate what a great player Sagna is, in my opinion he is the biggest reason that the Arsenal defence has done as well as it has done this season.

Not only does Sagna police his own patch effectively, but he has time to shield the right hand side of the centre back zone. He is far better in the air than most spectators care to notice, quite often he will clear the arial threat on that side. Now Toure isn’t tall, but he must be at least as tall as Sagna, yet in defence his headers are a matter of hit or miss, usually the latter. How many times do opposition players get a free header against the Gunners?

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The Logic of Wenger

I can understand Wenger’s logic in placing Toure at right back, after all Eboue hardly coped with Sagna’s departure at the Bridge, and who would trust Hoyte after the Man U cup game.  So the defence did not get fully organised until halfway through the second half of this game, still making errors, but perhaps with only 10 men that was understandable enough.

I hate to be such a killjoy, for it was a great comeback, and at 2-0 down and with only ten men, I doubt if many Arsenal fans gave the team a cat in hell’s chance. I know I didn’t, and I know the several Gooners I was sharing text messages with had also given up hope, indeed Alex and me set up the official “No Hope Club”, by giving up any hope we felt so much better, and by resolutely refusing to be tricked into false hope at 2-2 felt we had contributed to the ultimate comeback.

Yes a great comeback, but still no reason for false hope, for if the poorest Bolton side in years can score two against Arsenal then just imagine what Man U will be able to do, if the defence doesn’t sort itself out very quickly.

Wenger and the Myth of Substitutes, and Adebayor

One myth doing the rounds  is that Wenger doesn’t substitute early, and when he does it isn’t effective, the mere fact that several times this season he has substituted between 60 and 70 minutes does little to change this conventional wisdom. A few years back I remember him substituting Upson with Keown on 45 minutes, and Upson was not injured, and of course his infamous half time subbing of Sol Campbell.

Of course how effective subs are also depends on who they are.  One problem Wenger has had, due to injuries, is that the bench has held little threat at times, but now if Walcott can keep fit there is an added menace. Adebayor knockers should note how much he contributes to the game even when he is not scoring. The combination of Walcott and Ade ripped the Bolton team apart far more effectively than the eleven man Arsenal had managed up to 60 minutes.  Ade played a key role in the build up to the Hleb penalty; and if RvP had not been rusty I suspect the Gunners would have won earlier and by a larger margin.

Yes a great comeback, and the lads showed spirit. However Wenger knows there is quite a lot of work to be done between now and Wednesday; but at least he has something to build on.

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Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: daeniael (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:17:08:20

sign micah richard and the defense problem solved

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:17:12:37

a great comeback.we missed this spirit for the 4 crucial games we dropped points.now it's time to add more power to that for the CL games. 2 wins,2 draws and win the finals and the CL cup is ours.

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: Zainy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:17:19:50

micah richards is in the dame boat as Gallas- has some superb games then some average games.
on paper our defence is solid, but something is not right.
you can rave all you want about ronaldo but the difference between us and them this season has been the defence. they have a rock solid defence.

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:17:50:07

Spot on Zainy, our defence started off well this season and now lapsed back into bad old habits

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:18:54:35

I think we need a better defensive coach because individually our first choice back four are top class but as a unit they are mostly average.



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Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:21:56:54

Who is the defensive coach?

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:22:36:17

Don't know.



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Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: kamilmus (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:04:04:15

Thought Keown was with us as a defense coach?

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: perrygroves (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:09:21:10

an great come back...but does anyone else feel it was insignificant after throwing away the league...i did'nt get the usual buzz when the winner went in...how we will rue that month of madness

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: kamilmus (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:09:23:41

All started at B'ham. Lets sue Taylor for his damaging impact on our season. I'm sure a good lawyer can argue that there was an effect!! Get one of those US lawyers!!

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: perrygroves (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:09:49:28

Ade refusal to pass to Bendtner v Brum will haunt me for months....

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: no1 gazza fan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:09:58:23

Deserved your win for willingness to attack with ten men. Wenger would heave been slated had you conceded two or three more, despite needing to to stay in the title race.
Interesting to see the Sun say VP was poor and only give him a 6 whilst the mirror gave him 9 and man of the match (Sm105)

Would have said somewhere in between personally.

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Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: Philly the kid (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:11:03:31

same gaz, i thought it was a bit odd too. Esp' considering how bad his finishing was!!!

and.......
The combination of Walcott and Ade ripped the Bolton team apart far more effectively than the eleven man Arsenal had managed up to 60 minutes
I believe it was 10 man Arsenal for the second half of the first hour. Though we were a different prospect after the subs came on.

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: pk_gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:12:45:47

Quote:
perrygroves
an great come back...but does anyone else feel it was insignificant after throwing away the league...i did'nt get the usual buzz when the winner went in...how we will rue that month of madness

How did you not get a buzz?

I'd get a buzz after coming from behind like that even if we were 19th!

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Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: Mars berg (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:12:59:48

A thirteen year old whose just discovered wanking can keep more clean sheets than us.

Always Arsenal

Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: pk_gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:13:10:36

(Sm22) Marsberg !

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Re: Great comeback, pity about the defence
Posted by: Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:01:01:00:11

LMAO @ Mars Berg.

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