Not that Old Chestnut again, another saga of the 9 position again!
Boring!!!!

Yet more unreliable rumors

Yes more bloody fiction!

Jason Spice and Richard Rees both did a good job for us last season, couldnt fault eithers commitment, neither let the team down.
So what the big-deal about signing another scrum-half for the sake of it when there is no-one really available!
Obviously the season after this is going to be massive with new Stadium, new faces needed to attract crowds etc. no doubt another 9 will be signed by then.
If only a few more members of the Senior squad would have given the same commitment and effort as Spice and Rees did.

So please give us all a break about the No9 position there are one or two other positions personaly i would be more concerned about.

Lets get behind the Squad we have for this Season!

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Yes more bloody fiction!
Jason Spice and Richard Rees both did a good job for us last season, couldnt fault eithers commitment, neither let the team down.
So what the big-deal about signing another scrum-half for the sake of it when there is no-one really available!
Obviously the season after this is going to be massive with new Stadium, new faces needed to attract crowds etc. no doubt another 9 will be signed by then.
If only a few more members of the Senior squad would have given the same commitment and effort as Spice and Rees did.

So please give us all a break about the No9 position there are one or two other positions personaly i would be more concerned about.

Lets get behind the Squad we have for this Season!

Very well said.
Nice to see someone being positive for a change regarding the team that we support, yes support.

well seeing as toulon have signed henjak it is unlikely they would sign weepu

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well seeing as toulon have signed henjak it is unlikely they would sign weepu

I think you are not understanding the fact that we do not have any NWQ spots available for this coming season. Even if we did id rather a world class player e.g. Du Preez than Weepu

sorry larry blues and amstel but u obviously havnt seen many blues games this season if u think that spice didnt let us down. Yes he might have had total commitment bt so can i and you dont see me playin proffesional rugby . Scrum half, in my opinion was by far our weakest position last year

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sorry larry blues and amstel but u obviously havnt seen many blues games this season if u think that spice didnt let us down. Yes he might have had total commitment bt so can i and you dont see me playin proffesional rugby . Scrum half, in my opinion was by far our weakest position last year

So! did Spice let us down?
As you state its your opinion,
but its not MY OPINION!

Sticking with Spice is settling for mediocrity in my opinion. He does a job, his service is generally good enough and he is at the base early enough, but he won't win us any games. I though he was shown up on a few occasions, and bullied by younger, more enthusiastic scrum halfs.

He's ok, but if we really have ambitions to break into Europe's elite, he will not do.

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Sticking with Spice is settling for mediocrity in my opinion. He does a job, his service is generally good enough and he is at the base early enough, but he won't win us any games. I though he was shown up on a few occasions, and bullied by younger, more enthusiastic scrum halfs.
He's ok, but if we really have ambitions to break into Europe's elite, he will not do.

How on earth will Spice not win us any games next season, are you forgetting we came second in the Magners League and into the quaters of the Heineken Cup. Did we not win any games to get into them positions last year?

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Sticking with Spice is settling for mediocrity in my opinion. He does a job, his service is generally good enough and he is at the base early enough, but he won't win us any games. I though he was shown up on a few occasions, and bullied by younger, more enthusiastic scrum halfs.
He's ok, but if we really have ambitions to break into Europe's elite, he will not do.

How on earth will Spice not win us any games next season, are you forgetting we came second in the Magners League and into the quaters of the Heineken Cup. Did we not win any games to get into them positions last year?

And that was solely the achievements of Jason Spice? I'm really not sure why you're defending him so much, at the start of the season, he looked uninterested and uninspired. In all fairness, he did improve as the season went on, and was solid. But he was outclassed in Toulouse, yes i know he scored, but he was bullied by Kelleher, and showed few signs of imaginative or creative play.

Out of interest, what games do you believe he DID win us last season, and how many did Mike Phillips guide us to the season before?

I maintain, he's did a good job last season, but is not good enough if we have ambitions of progressing in the Heineken Cup. Would you agree or disagree?

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The difference between Spice and Phillips, Spice is a team player and Phillips is not, i know whom Nicky Robinson would rather play at 9!
If the 10 plays well, the team well, perhaps thats why we won nothing when Phillips was at the helm!!!!!

We've not won anything with Spice, so that point's in entirely invalid! It's easy saying Phillips isn't a team player, but if he was still at the Blues, you would be worshiping him. He's Wales best scrum half, if not Britains. Who do you see getting in above him for the lions?

I know Robinson prefers playing with Spice, but thats because Nicky is just as greedy and ball hungry as Mike Phillips, and i'm not hving a go - i think thats a good attitude to have. Its far better to be looking for the ball and making big impact descisions that could go right or wrong, rather than being ball shy.

Phillips had the ability to turn a game completely, he could lift the team, lift the crowd and make sintillating solo runs. Spice has good distribution. For me, there's no question of who i would prefer in my side.

Are you honestly saying that you would have Spice at 9 for Wales if he were qualified?

For me, Spice would come after Mikey, Peel and Cooper if he were Welsh. In fact, Cooper is perhaps the man who'll relace him from Glos next summer.

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1. It was our best season by far to date last season even if there were no silverwear!

2. I think your a tad over the top, suggesting i would be worshiping Phillips,never did before, so why would i now!

3. I would have Jason Spice and Richard Rees in my side AT THE BLUES anytime, over its my ball Phillips.

4. Admin this is just MY OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

amstel, are you seriously saying that richie rees and jason spice are better players than mike phillips. Sorry but you obviously don't have that much of an idea about rugby or are still bitter about Phillips leaving. And, yes we have done better season but i think we would have done a lot better with mike phillips at scrum half

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amstel, are you seriously saying that richie rees and jason spice are better players than mike phillips. Sorry but you obviously don't have that much of an idea about rugby or are still bitter about Phillips leaving. And, yes we have done better season but i think we would have done a lot better with mike phillips at scrum half

So why didnt we do a lot better, when he did play for us?

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amstel, are you seriously saying that richie rees and jason spice are better players than mike phillips. Sorry but you obviously don't have that much of an idea about rugby or are still bitter about Phillips leaving. And, yes we have done better season but i think we would have done a lot better with mike phillips at scrum half

So why didnt we do a lot better, when he did play for us?

Lack of class in other areas; Tito, Maama, Alfie, Tom James and Jamie Roberts have all been massive for us this year. These players all have the ability to change a game, as does Mikey. In my view, Spice and Rees don't.

I know it's your opinion, i encourage it, opinion fuels debate, and debate is great for the forum.

I only made teh comparison with Mikey cos he was here the year before Spice, but even if not Phillips, i feel we NEED a better scrum half if we are to progress. I think in order to break into Europes top 5, there are a few players who would need replacing, but at the top of that list for me, is Spice.

Like i say, i don't worry about him as he is a consistant player, and did have a good season last year. But really, scrum half is a key position, and you need a player there who can command the entire backs line, make the right decisions and have ability to drag the side out of mediocrity and kick them into gear.

For me, Spice isn't taht man - I'm not saying that Phillips, Weepu or Cooper nesacerily are, but its a position that needs improving.

Going away from the point a bit, but not hugely, i would like to see more from Allinson next season. I think he'll be batting Ritchie Rees for a contract fr the season after, so should be an interesting battle for 2nd spot.

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