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Williams team getting there

Head talks to Rosberg
By Andrew Hooper June 22 2009
The British GP would see AT&T Williams driver Nico Rosberg finish fifth, after having produced the same result in Turkey. In Britain he was backed up by team-mate Kazuki Nakajima who qualified and ran well in the early stages of the race. Such is the improvement in the performance of the FW31 that Williams Director of Engineering Patrick Head believes that the team is capable of podium finishes.
 
 Williams team getting there
 

Sunday's British Grand Prix would see AT&T Williams driver Nico Rosberg finish in fifth position. Hew as also able to bring his car home in fifth in the previous race in Turkey. In the British race Nico was backed up by team-mate Kazuki Nakajima who qualified and ran well in the early stages of the race. Such is the improvement in the performance of the FW31 that Williams Director of Engineering Patrick Head believes that the team is capable of podium finishes.

Patrick HeadThe opening races of the 2009 season would see the Williams team produce some encouraging results in the practice session leading up to the race but they would struggle to produce a good result come the race. But the last two Grand Prix's have shown that the Williams team is making progress in getting an improved performance from the FW31. In the British Grand Prix Nico was able to show the pace of the FW31 by setting the third fastest time of the race.

In an interview for autosport.com Head spoke of view that the team is progressing. Head said: "We are beginning to get there. Nico has been in the top ten starters every race this year and I think this is Kazuki's second or third time in there, so yes it is progressing.

"But then every team is developing race-by-race and it is up to us to try and develop faster than them.

Head spoke of Nico's performance in the British Grand Prix by adding: "Nico happened to find a bit of clear air when whoever was in front of him at the time pitted and he had one lap clear and he set the third fastest lap of the race, 0.3s behind [Sebastian] Vettel.

"I'm not suggesting that that is the true gap (to the Red Bulls) but we just spent too much of the race behind other cars. The car is capable of a podium, but it is like anything - you can talk about it but you need to do it."

With the pace of development not only from the Williams team but also their competitors the competition is becoming more difficult. Finding an extra one tenth of a second can make a big difference come qualifying and the race.

Head spoke of this competition by saying: "The thing is now a tenth can be a couple of rows on the grid because everybody is so bloody close. Where as previously you could have said it was nothing it was only a tenth, now that is really valuable.

"Maybe it was a bit more than that, but that is the process that at every race one has got to be bringing developments, otherwise you find yourself sliding backwards."

The Williams team is certainly moving forwards having moved ahead of McLaren in the Constructors championship to now be fifth. Behind them in the championship are McLaren, Renault, and BMW.

 

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Williams team getting there
Posted by: Williams F1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 14:37

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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 14:56

I agree with this, a podium was lost yesterday.



but we just spent too much of the race behind other cars. The car is capable of a podium, but it is like anything - you can talk about it but you need to do it."



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 16:46

We got things back on track this weekend. We are developing in the right direction. I wish that we could come to terms with soft tyres though.

There has been miles of posting about stock-engines and dumbing down of F1, yet there is still little said about the artificial results that get thrown up by having to use two tyre compounds. If we were allowed to choose a tyre compound this car would be much more consistent.



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 17:13

Yes i said last week that i do not agree with all this messing about with the tyres.
I wish they would stop this interfearing and let the teams choose.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 17:15

By patrick saying the car was capable of a podium, then i would say he is laying the blame at Nico,s feet.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 17:32

Ive watched a few 1980's races on You-tube recently-back in the non-refueling era. It was really apparent how strategy was played out more on track and less in the pits. It will be interesting to see how Rosberg gets on next year if he is still at Williams.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 17:56

Yes I would take away compulsory pit stops too. Let the action take place on track as it would with greater tyre wear.



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: PABLO 27 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 18:00

Absolutely true was Patrick said, but sadly when Massa was behind Nico I thought that we were gonna lose the four positon even if the pit stop was OK and that happened...I donīt know why but itīs always the same.



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Bond (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 18:08

Good race by all.
The next time a driver can make a difference in a car that is 3/10ths per lap behind, he will be called allah.

fans can make all the assumptions they want, but @ the end of the day it's the car & team that win, not the driver solely.


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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: PABLO 27 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2009 19:26

Thanks for the link!!! thumbs down



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: K1 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2009 07:13

williams certainly improved their position on sunday and did better than they have in the past.

what amazes me is that 'they' keep on stating the team 'deserved' better results!!! no one deserves better results. the results achieved are what they were capable of getting on the day, nothing more, nothing less.

if for example the team screws up on tyre selection/ fuel strategy, whatever then that is their problem and they don't 'deserve' anything more than what they got.

it has become almost a mantra lately. despite this williams got some points for all their trouble and seem to be on an upward curve. the remaining races will be interesting to see if williams can continue to improve.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2009 10:56

If the team keep saying that the car was capable of a better result , and the pit crew and the tyre and fuel seletion turned out to be optimum for that race which it was really , then the blame lies at the feet of the drivers, we need quicker drivers.
It is not just us who are saying this outsiders can see it too, and have said so.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Bond (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2009 13:40

it's a team sport. the car & team is 99% of the equation.
Look @ where all the tier1 guys are without the car being @ Brawn or rbr.

U keep wanting to blame Nico - yet the car is still @ least 3/10th off of the rbr/brawn.

ie he's not even close enough to breath on them.

We know he ain't Vettel.
& the next vettel isn't in the clear for any1 else to see yet.

So why all the fuss??!

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2009 14:01

I think you will find that the 31 was maybe 3/10th, of a second faster than the Brawns ,or atleast Ruby, on the hard tyres anyway.in this last race.if we had a driver that could attack instead of sitting back most of the race.

I will continue to point out the weak area,s in the team as i see them for every race i see, and again this race Nico was a weak point in an otherwise strong performance by the williams team, and maybe the car or driver maybe both where weaker than i would of liked to see on the softer tyre.

Again i am only pointing out weak area,s, and untill I see Nico attack throughout the whole race .and i can see he has a fast car then in my book he has underperfomrd, and is letting the whole team dowm.



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Bond (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2009 14:08

Since these new rules have been implemented, reliability has been key to scoring points.

After what Rubino did in Turkey, I would think Williams would be afraid to attack him or get anywhere near him.

There is a time & place to attack & gunning it all the time is foolish.
Look @ what webber has been able to do this year bringing it home every race vs. vettel who has a couple of DNF for his over zealousness.



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2009 14:13

We may not get many more chances to attack the Brawns on warmer track conditions anyway.,as our car stands at present.



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2009 14:16

perhaps on a poor weekend in future, Rosberg should do a Barrichello- ie go ape, and win some cautious respect from the likes of alonso. smiling bouncing smiley

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: K1 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 08:10

rosberg would do well to try and emulate alonso, although he is not in alonso's league. barrichello is an idiot and is quite a dangerous driver in my opinion. rosberg should've had a crack despite the difficulty in passing. the car was fast but rosberg didn't push hard enough.

to say that williams deserved 4th was all BS.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Lamag (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 11:41

Rosberg did the right thing,with 3/10 faster Rosberg can not pass Rubens, even Jenson with one second per lap faster than Rosberg canīt pass Nico on track, so what you want from Rosberg? an innecesary collition with Rubens by trying to pass him without the enough speed? itīs that what you want from Rosberg?

Overtaking at Silverstone was impossible, even if you was one second per lap faster than others...

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 12:03

Yiu are silly at times

You have clearly forgotten what F1 was like in the past.

Of course overtaking was possible , do you think people like alonso, lewis, buemi, vettal, kubica, would of just sat there in the 31 , i don,t think so.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gabal (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 13:12

As far as I remember Alonso, Kubica, Hamilton, Buemi and Vettel were also in race and only Alonso has overtaken Hamilton who is driving a dud of a car. One second a lap faster wasn't enough for a championship leader on a superior tyre to overtake - we heard from several sources that overtaking is nigh on impossible here but I guess according to you a sheer will power is enough to overtake somebody...

Also, Buemi? You seriously rate him as high as all those others you mentioned? Did you even see him since Barcelona? Sure, he drove a great race in Australia but last few races he is completely invisible.



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Damon'sFW18 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 13:15

I don't understand all the hype over Buemi, just because he drove well and scored points in China (thanks to the car - not the drive). He did @#$%& all in GP2 and only got the Toro Rosso seat because of his Red Bull connections and Gerhard Berger had gone - because he wanted Bruno Senna to get the drive.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Bond (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 13:17

gpl - it's the car not the driver.

As Gabal stated all those drivers u listed couldn't pass in their ill equipment of the same relative pace.

So why would you think a 3/10th slower (over the course of the season so far) FW31 can pass a BGP1??

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 13:28

I am guessing about Buemi, but i would like to see him in the 32 next year, i have seen agression in jis driving , and pace at times, given they get the set up right.
Hulk has not really shown any real pace on the testing days he has done ,and has dropped it off the track a few times , when he was told to take it easy.
With the small amount of money williams have to run the team with each year these days ,you are never going to attract a top driver i am afraid.so what do we do.
All i know is we need better drivers who will attack , and get the other driver thinking ,this guy an,t going to bottle it, i had better move over.

I have see Buemi Hound Nico ,and push Nelson off the track at monaco, Hahahahahaha.
Go on my son.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Lurcher (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 13:28

Guys, ask one question. What would JPM have done? We seem to be asking nico to be JPM, Prost and Keke all at the same time.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 13:30

Jpm would of been through in no time

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Bond (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 13:38

JPM had better horses underneath him.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: F1R (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 13:39

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Guys, ask one question. What would JPM have done? We seem to be asking nico to be JPM, Prost and Keke all at the same time.

I'd settle for Mansell or Senna... No pressure then.

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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 13:41

By the way jpm was a very fast driver , but he was not a great driver in my book.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Damon'sFW18 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 14:03

Whatever Nico has done these past two races, it is good to see Williams heading back towards the top once again, and this time we're not fighting for scraps, we're starting to fight for big points and duel with the Brawns.

If it's not so warm again at the Newburgring (which it can be quite often) expect the Brawns to struggle, it would be good to pounce on them. I expect the German fans to be coming out in their droves thanks to Vettel, his win at Silverstone couldn't have been better timed.

I know I've said this quite a few times now, but it is a nice feelgood factor to compare our pace today to last year. This time last year Nico was setting very quick times in pre-Hockenheim testing and we were getting our hopes too high thinking the track "would suit our car".



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 14:05

you are a very stern critic gpl- JPM had his flaws- but he was the most electric driver Ive ever seen. (my memory starts in 1993 btw).

I would still have liked to see a bit more vigour from Rosberg- Button was never going to risk his car as the championship leader, so comparing Rosberg to Button isnt fair. "pressure Barrichello into a mistake" was Rosberg's direct instruction- Barrichello is not perfect, and was on hard, cold tyres- not a peep.

Williams didnt DESERVE a podium- but we had the performance to win a podium on merit which is very encouraging

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Lamag (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 16:42

Quote:
gpl
Jpm would of been through in no time

Can you give me the tonighs lottery numbers for Miami please?

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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 16:46

No.
Iam keeping it all for myself.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Lamag (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 19:29

Sure? because looks like you a magical crystal ball to see the future...

(Sm103)

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2009 21:39

How's this for an idea - Rosberg was undoubtedly several tenths faster than Barrichello and Massa in the second stint, but trapped between them on lighter fuel. Overtaking was extremely unlikely- so what about this for an idea? Back up Massa early in the stint- allow Reubens a 4 sec advantage- and then cain it- chasing right up behind the Brawn just prior to the stops. Its a low risk idea because we were going to lose out to Barrichello and Massa anyway so long as Massa remained within 2.5 seconds of Rosberg leading into the pitstops, so it was worth doing something different to try to creating a margin over Massa.

It demands confidence that the car is superior, but why not try???



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Mr. Pink (IP Logged)
Date: 25/06/2009 21:35

A nice idea but I don't see a tactic where driver needs to drive slowly as the one the driver would accept.

Looking at it now we can say it probably would have worked.



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Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 25/06/2009 21:43

Yeah- Maybe your right. Still- in securing 4th it may have registered a higher % on a strategy predictor had they considered it.

Re: Williams team getting there
Posted by: Bond (IP Logged)
Date: 26/06/2009 13:28

Q. Knowing what the strengths of the Williams are, what are the tracks coming up that should suit it particularly well?

NR: We are quick on every track - it doesn't matter if it is street circuit or aero high-speed circuits like Silverstone. We are quick everywhere.



Keep on keeping on boyz.

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